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joey+redticks
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i agree with whoever else said this...there are some dogs that just dont get along with one another..my dog izzi is fine with all our dogs except one and he is an old fart..they will always nitpick at eachother and they are bothe fine with all the other dogs its just when its them two

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Re: bryan j

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from the post i have made you should no i do not pack a mean dog,if i had a mean dog i would cull it,david..ps..i have protiction dogs i have rased and trained and know they will not fight a nother dog eather,,cgc tittels on my protion dog with maney more


What kind of dogs do you raise? I bet thats fun and training them!

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quote:
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if i walk into a tree and my dogs ontop of another dog i know its for a reason, feel free to beat my dog and after that i'll feel free to beat you. Theres no excuse to stomp on another mans dog, let the man do it himself. If you can see yourself in this kind of position, then maybe you shouldnt of been hunting with them in the first place.
guess i should of put it a diff way if u walk in and see a dog attack your dog all i know is if i see one attack mine ill kick the crap out of it and if the owner wants to go a few rounds after thats fine with me not pointing right at u ironwood just anyones dog i see ATTACK MY DOG IS WHAT I WAS GETTING AT I GUESS

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Just amazes me what someone would do to another mans hound!

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Just amazes me what someone would do to another mans hound!
guess your dog shouldnt be mean then

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BRYAN J
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Your right Jim I don't own a mean dog. Can't stand them. If I even hear of one Ill not hunt with it. Im sure alot of young hounds are ruined from this.
Im sure there are alot of mean dogs hunted all the time and the owners know it. Too bad too. I could have the best coon dog in the world and if it was mean it wouldn't be mine.

But if by chance I did hunt with a stranger and didn't know the dog and a fight broke out I sure wouldn't beat another mans hound. I would just load up and leave never to hunt with that dog and probably that guy again. Because I guarantee you he knew his dog was mean. Didn't bother to say anything. Except geesh he's never acted like that before! How many times you hear that?

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I don't mean that anyone should beat someone else's dog within an inch of it's life... I guess I made it sound that way.

Going by the "some dogs just don't get along" thing, I can say that if my dog happened to jump on another dog, I wouldn't want anyone to jump on him. I'd want to take care of it myself and I'd probably get pissed if someone did jump my dog.... hell, I don't know where I stand on this!!!!! Just keep ole Fangs in the pen people!

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i know what you meant jim. I give a dog 2 chances and if he dont wanna play by my rules he goes to the "farm". i wish half the people out there would be under the same understanding

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quote:
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i know what you meant jim. I give a dog 2 chances and if he dont wanna play by my rules he goes to the "farm". i wish half the people out there would be under the same understanding
yup i hear ya there somw folks bring mean dogs too these hunts knowing they are mean

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you say can and will go 2 ways,if i get to a tree and 2 dogs are fightting no mater wat dog started it they need beat to death,yours or mine and if you dont like it than they mite be some slow walking and singing 4 some one and i will do my best to see it is not me,,get reall stop dogs from fitting,so i gess if you see 2 dogs fightting you just watch bull s-i-t,,david


Hey, terky, don't take it personal, but would you defend yourself if someone jumped you? If you answer yes, do you think you should be punished for defending yourself?

Do you really think a dog should be, and I quote,"Beat to death" for defending itself?

Just because a person approaches the situation sensibly doesn't mean he would just sit down and watch.

I've learned (and you can take this for what it's worth) there is a right way and a wrong way to go about anything.

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Guys I hate a mean dog just as much as the next guy. But I have to agree with Craig.

As far as the hunts go Im sure enough people in that area know the dogs and if enough say its mean then it shouldn't be allowed to compete. Just my opinion.

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Guys I hate a mean dog just as much as the next guy. But I have to agree with Craig.

As far as the hunts go Im sure enough people in that area know the dogs and if enough say its mean then it shouldn't be allowed to compete. Just my opinion.

i agree 100% but most are too spine less to say anything

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Well I won't hunt a mean dog and if I end up with one no one will ever have to worry about getting it. BANG!!!!! If two dogs are rollin I ain't getting bit tring to peacfully break it up. Sorry, the first one I come to is getting booted. If that is a problem then to bad. I have never beat anyone elses dog but I have kicked one and I repeat one of someone elses for jumping on mine. I was there and seen it, had mine on a leash and the other was coming after him. Guess the owner felt it was ok cause he sure didn't complaine. Have hunted in the hunts for about 9-10 years I guess and have judged lots of casts and only scratched one dog for fighting. In those same 9-10 years I have had one dog scratched for fighting and that was when he came into another dogs tree. They both got it and it was atleast the secound for the other dog. Had had the old dog in the hunts for like seven years when that happend with not one problem ever. What do you think happend at the tree where mine got wrote up. Recon mine started it or the other jumped him when he got up on the tree? I am not saying you should beat another mans dog but You go pulling on a dog that is mad you are lible to get the fangs your self and let me tell you those tetnis shots hurt about as bad as the dog bites usually. I guess I would be on the end of some of those don't touch my dog second fights but you do what you need to and I will do the same. Sorry if it ever comes to that in advance.

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Well I won't hunt a mean dog and if I end up with one no one will ever have to worry about getting it. BANG!!!!! If two dogs are rollin I ain't getting bit tring to peacfully break it up. Sorry, the first one I come to is getting booted. If that is a problem then to bad. I have never beat anyone elses dog but I have kicked one and I repeat one of someone elses for jumping on mine. I was there and seen it, had mine on a leash and the other was coming after him. Guess the owner felt it was ok cause he sure didn't complaine. Have hunted in the hunts for about 9-10 years I guess and have judged lots of casts and only scratched one dog for fighting. In those same 9-10 years I have had one dog scratched for fighting and that was when he came into another dogs tree. They both got it and it was atleast the secound for the other dog. Had had the old dog in the hunts for like seven years when that happend with not one problem ever. What do you think happend at the tree where mine got wrote up. Recon mine started it or the other jumped him when he got up on the tree? I am not saying you should beat another mans dog but You go pulling on a dog that is mad you are lible to get the fangs your self and let me tell you those tetnis shots hurt about as bad as the dog bites usually. I guess I would be on the end of some of those don't touch my dog second fights but you do what you need to and I will do the same. Sorry if it ever comes to that in advance.
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Jim Hill / Bryan J

when was the last time one of you paid an entry at a night hunt?

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I get a kick outa sme of you guys all worried bout dog fites ya it hapns but how often maybe some of you should look at yur own dogs maybe they aint ruff bv a dog that jumps at the tree ALOT of the time is what starts it if sme1 jumps on me im+ gona come up swingin you cnt expect anythng less from the dogs and the super tough guy on this post has about the jumpyest dog and if my dog tears into hm and he starts beaten mine i wil be the 3rd rite up people need to start lookin at the faults in ther own dogs

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it takes a super tough guy to beat on a dog jhill, and an even more tough guy to shoot one

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I would shoot a mean dog in a heart beat. Would not be a problem, or I guess maybe I could post it on here for sale to someone else as a straight coon treeing machine without a mean hair on him. The one and only dog I have scratched in the night hunts had never done it before. Imagin that. Just because a dog jumps at the tree doesn't mean one has to grab it. You are right, jumping does start lots of scuffles. I agree with that but, just because a dog lands on one doesn't have to start a fight. How many times you been bumped into at a bar? Did you throw down each and every time or just realize that it was an accident or just someone that is way drunk. I have also seen someone try to knock you down like that and that usually gains some attention.

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what happen to Jim why was he Banned

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I do not understand why some of these dogs are in these hunts. I could not own one that I couldn't take hunting with my friend and not worry about what is going to happen. Yes things happen and innocent dogs get wrote up but an innocent dog won't ever get barred for fighting. If a dog gets wrote up three times you can bet there is fire with that much smoke. This cracks me up that people say don't touch my dog and all that and maybe they are right. Maybe it isn't the dogs fault at all, maybe it is the one feeding them that is the problem. I do not have a problem correcting my dog, but I kind of look at it like if two guys are in a fight and one is your best buddy you are going to do what need be to break it up. What ever that might be. The majority of the blame for mean dogs has to lye in the hands of todays breeders. We breed for some much tree power that they can't help but want to clame the tree and sometimes that means one that is a little touchy. That is where culling to help the breed should come into play, but I guess the want to win in compitition is to strong for some and if old fangs is a good dog they just have to put them in the hunts and forget about the dogs that everyone else has enterd.

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I once worked on a job with an old man that just pleasure hunted. He always carried a pistol when hunting and said if he was hunting with someone else and he walked into a tree & a dog was jumping on his he would shoot the dog. I don't and wont hunt a dog thats mean but I still wouldn't go hunting with him because he was just a little crazy.
I know a guy that used to hunt with a guy that traded dogs alot, they went one night and at the first tree his dog was way back from the tree bleeding, on the second tree he went in and the dog had chewed his up again, he shot the mans dog, took the collar off and started down the hill when the other guy was coming up, he said, " you get him buck" "yea I got him, here's your collar" " darn you shot my dog buck" " yea and if you bring another mean one tomorrow night ill shoot him too".

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AMEN I WOULD NEVER TOUCH ANOTHER MANS DOG ITS DISRESPECTFUL AND FOOLISH A GOOD WAY TO GET DOG BIT .BUT I HAVE BEEN THERE AND HUNTED WITH SOME ALIGATORS BACK LAST MONTH AT A HUNT A GROUP THAT DID NOT KNOW ME TRIED TO SCRATCH MY DOG FOR AGGRESSIVE BEHAVIOR DIDNT HAPPEN HE WAS TREEING LIKE A MACHINE GUN BUT I CHECKED HIM 2 BITES IN HIS RIGHT EAR 1 IN THE SIDE OF HIS HEAD BLOOD ALL ON HIM AND NO OTHER DOG AND 1 DUFUS SAYS HE MUST OF BIT HIS SELF. MY DOGS 8 YRS OLD A PUPPY TRAINER I KEEP A PUP IN THE KENNEL WITH HIM NOT A ILL BONE IN HIM SHOOT HE THINKS HES A MOMMA DOG THE WAY HE TREATS PUPS

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when was the last time one of you paid an entry at a night hunt?


I haven't been in a nite hunt for several years. I was working with a blue JetV male I made a nite champion in 3 hunts. I did have alot of fun. I also hunted with a buddy in several after that. I saw about everything then. I was lucky not to have to deal with alot of dog fussing then. This is when I decided to give it up for awhile. Pkc hunted some locally and saw alot of face barking and dogs running each other around here. I guess I like to pleasure hunt too much to get agitated with the hunts.
I like to hunt females now seems less likely to have problems.
I to this day don't even like a dog that face barks bad. Trouble in the making right there!

Lots of fine folks out there and lots of folks hunting aggressive dogs and they now it. I say keep them at home, hunt them alone!

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