Registered: Dec 2003
Location: Newwood WI
Posts: 1354

I'll tell ya what, i just might know a couple of coonhunters that might just go out and by a computer if this was available.

i think everyone has covered just about everything that i would want to be on there. I guess I'd like 2 see it done for fre because that sorta thing is so rarly done anymore but I would pay for it if I had to likesomewhere between 5 and 20 bucks.

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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: Kalamazoo, Mich.
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Where's Littlejoe? He mentioned this idea of a "Gold Membership" more than a year ago while we were sitting in a cinder block "sportsmens club" somewhere in skonsin throwing back a couple of grape nehi's. C'mon Maitland, let's here it again. This time there won't be no co-ed shootin' pool in a mini-skirt breaking my concentration. lol

Thanks for the good ideas everyone. The committee has already been checking the board. Something good is going to come of all this. And sooner than later!

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Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Texas
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to be able to access info on any of my dogs' number of wins toward titles and points earned toward Top Ten & Purina Race, etc.
I would gladly give my credit card nbr. to pay the fee for registering a litter online, register individual pups from my litters and also obtain geneology info.on random dogs.
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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: Nashville, Indiana
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Iwould also pay for these services, but I personally think $20.00 is to small for the first year. I think the first year should be around something in the way of $50.00 and then $15.00 to $20.00 each year after. I believe that to start this kind of service would be very time consuming and cost alot of money. I know what my Breeders program cost and if I could calulate my time in this to dollars I think the amout would be staggering, the hours and days it took for me to program all this was alot and I am still not done. This is a very HUGE undertaking and mainanance would be a 24x7 operation. This all cost money. As I always herad "You get what you pay for" I will always pay extra for quaility and stability.
Just my 2 cents worth.

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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: Salem,Missouri
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magicloop2, since you have all this money to throw around you can just pay my $50.00. thanks in advance.

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Registered: Jul 2003
Location: columbus,ny
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I'm with Art on this one. If there is a fee to use this board, then you can forget me. I enjoy this board the way it is now. Free!! If I can still post messages on here after you go through this change, I will be happy for all involved, but I will never pay to use this sight.

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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Independence, Kentucky
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All of the above.

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It would be nice to keep up with the process of pups that a breeder sales. That way he/she could now who has them and how they are doing in the hunts and shows.

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Registered: Jul 2003
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 319

20 bucks a year seems fair for these types of services....I also like the idea of an ID# assigned to each of us....maybe a card like the easy-entry card...that # used to log in and use all services...including these boards...with real names...stops a lot of junk from going on too...

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Registered: Jan 2004
Location: MICHIGAN
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How many Hounds & Owners are in that database? I Know it would cost alot of money to do this, BUT devide it by how many would use it! I BET 85% of the People would be amazed as to HOW many Hounds are UKC registered! How about it Todd, You got a Number for us ? ;o) Thanks, ROXY

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Registered: Jul 2003
Location: MI
Posts: 69

1) DATABASE access to research lineage PAD style and COI calculations
Type in dog or # and get pedigree as far back as records go
and list siblings with perhaps "limited" ownership info, a name
or number or whatever owner wishes displayed

2) Ability to use these records for theoretical crosses and COI


Yearly fee makes the most sense for database records access

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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: Central Arkansas
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Originally posted by Tank/UKC
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How much would you pay to be able to do those things online?

Would you pay an annual fee to be able to track your Nite Hunt/Bench Show points online? How about to being able to run a PAD on a sire you wish to breed to?

Everything has a cost and someone has to pay for it. I think it would be worthwhile to pay an annual fee to be able to access points etc. Or maybe an one time fee to download a non-transferrable pedigree. What do you think?

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Originally posted by Cynthia
1)geneology

2)wins/points/titles earned

3)owner info, (but maybe that should be limited in some way as to protect against animal rights people just being able to search and then harrass people.) maybe if you're an owner, then have some sort of login using your dogs # or something unique to identify you as an ower.

4)online registration or ordering (this may be already in place & I dont know it yet)

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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: East Texas
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look up pedigrees
get sire/dam production reports online
check dog's titles and points

the quarter horse association has a great online service - each member is given ten dollars in online bucks to use to purchase reports online each month, and they can also load more money to their account to buy these things. you can look up a horses extended pedigree, show record, race winnings, production record, and a number of other different services.

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Registered: Dec 2003
Location: Willard Oh.
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I think the fee should be minimal, $10. Would it be nice that us licensed Master of Hounds, Bench Show Judges, Field Reps and Ect... be able to do this for no charge??!! Being it once cost us $20 anyway to be able to put on these events! It might be an incentive for more people to do thier part and contribute some in the future. Or how about if you are a person in one of these positions to have an ongoing free subscribtion to Bloodlines??



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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: Illinois
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So far, I have seen much in requests for information that isn't already on UKC's computer. From what I understand, UKC was going to offer a service last year but was warned not to allow access to their main computer because of potential hackers. So, all that would be needed is another computer where the current information could be transferred to. It could be expensive but the expense could be made up by not having to answer as many phone calls requesting information. I am not against UKC making a profit, we all live in the Land of the Dollar Bill, but I sure don't see alot of expense on UKC's part to provide this service. I am not against a user's fee and identification number for all message board users, I sure have been bashed alot by nameless (and gutless) bashers. I have always used my name on every post I have made even though some have been contraversial. I think a requirement of using a name or number to every post is in order. I think UKC would make plenty of profit on a $10 yearly subscription fee for message board and on line services. I think $20 would be price gouging but that seems to be a popular number. For $20, UKC should come up with more than basic services. Stuff like Stud Owners board, video clip board, pictures boards, perhaps some UKC video clips of their big hunt winners, and that sort of thing should be included with a $20 fee. After all, you already have a web master on the payroll and all of the information is already stored, other than the initial computer-server costs, I don't see alot of expense for UKC and I sure see alot of profit. As I said, I am not against profit, I try to make some for myself every now and then.

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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: NW Florida
Posts: 63

definitly geneolgy of a particular dog. Sure would like to see what's left of the ole family blood from years past.

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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: bainbridge ny
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i have to agree with doug robinson and wayne valentino a 20 dollar a year fee isn't very much for these services as the people that use them would have that and more if they made phone calls to find the information they required

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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: SE indiana
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Online pedigrees for sure with breeding records of offspring.

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Registered: Feb 2004
Location: martinsville, il.
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An annual fee would be ok . I go along with the majority. If we can pull up the genie-ology, get hunt results on a dog, see where a dog stands in points all sounds good to me. Butch Roeder would pay my fee for me i'm sure. I think? If butch pays for me the fee can't be too high. If I must pay, maybe $20 bucks per yr.

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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: Just up the road a piece.
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I think the geneology/pedigree search with links to P.A.D. type info would be a tremendous tool that would get amazing response. You could make hard copies of any requested pedigree for sale at a minimal cost and support the program that way.You could also tie a link to the registration # of each dog to show his winnings at official events

I also like the idea of some registering on line but I think it would have to be limited to say breeders who are registering litters and doing pup to permanent paper transfers with no transfer of ownership.
I don't know if transfer of ownerships should be done without hard copy signatures on file unless there is someway to protect against false paper work. And yes I realize that if someone wants to falsify a signature they can do it regardless but I think hard copy originals of signatures should be kept in case there ever is a problem.

Also any way you can make it easier for these guys that do the hunt paperwork would be a benefit also.

Thanks for the effort!!

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Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Dellwood Fl.
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I like the idea of including it in the magazine subscription, don't we already have a customer I.D. # through our subscription?-- We are paying for info. by subscribing, so why should those of us that pay have to pay twice- I'm sure mag. subscriptions would skyrocket. This way, we aren't getting gouged, and UKC is still making money!
Problem- some will want the computer access w/o the magazine, so have a yearly fee for them. JMO

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Registered: Dec 2003
Location: nwpa
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being able to register on line. Also being able to pull up show records and points. Also being able to track litter registrations. Also if possible having some sort of system where breeders are rated on reliable they are and if they have any complaints against them.

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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 1076

I like doing everything possible online, so I'm really happy to hear you're working on this.

I know these have all been listed but I'll just confirm that I agree with the others.

∙List Championship points for a dog - only yours or anybodies?
∙Display a 3 generation pedigree for a dog - only yours or anybodies?
∙Permanently register, transfer ownership, register litters
∙Report the death of your dog ( to help keep the database clean)
∙File event confirmations
∙File hunt results
∙Club detail lists, i.e. the club location, years in existence, current officers and hunt schedules

This one would be nice but maybe too many privacy issues?
Could you get around privacy if this was a list that a person could opt in/out of?
Anyway, it would be fun to be able to list owners of dogs based on a pedigree and/or breed and/or location. i.e. I had a male that bred a few females several years ago & I know some pups must still be alive. Type in his number & get a list of registered owners of any pups from this male.

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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: Eddyville, Iowa
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Any process or access to information pertaining to hounds that we can use that can be provided by UKC will be appreciated by everyone. As far as, paying a fee............. looks like an annual fee is the winner. Just set it up so we can pay by credit/debit card or directly out of the bank account. If we have the service and have to wait on the snail mail to deliver the check...... we haven't gained a thing on the initial use of the service.

I would love to have the ability to file hunt reports on line. Just type in the clubs checking acct # and file the report. Awesome!

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