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do you think ukc needs to hunt curs with hounds?
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yes,they need to 84 54.19%
no, i think it is fine now 71 45.81%
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Justin Smith
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If Leopards were that much better , they'd win every cur hunt there is and nobody would hunt anything else .

I've hunted with a few Leopards .... they didn't make me want to get rid of any hounds.

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Shuss

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i dont kno but from the poll more people want them in the hunts so we will see what todd says about it!

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ok guys here are the back of a A.LC.B.A. paper if you look at the #5. part you will see that they have to be able to strike,run and tree there on game.
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ok guys there you go.

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Skuna River Man
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SINCE THERE IS NO NEED TO LET CUR AND HOUND HUNT TOGETHER BECAUSE CUR HUNTERS WONT TRAVEL VAST DISTANCES TO SUPPORT THEIR OWN NITE HUNTS, THEN I HAVE A WONDERFUL IDEA.

SINCE I DO NOT EVER SEE MORE THAN A COUPLE BLUETICKS, B&T'S, PLOTTS, REDBONES AT OUR LOCAL HUNTS THEN WE SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO REFUSE ENTRY TO THEM SINCE THEY DONT SUPPORT THE HUNTS THEY COULD BE COMPETING IN! HOW BOUT THAT! THEN THEY COULD SET UP THEIR OWN WORLD HUNTS(LIKE THE BLUETICKERS, ROFL!)

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if i wanted to hunt my cur i would have to got to WV before i can hunt. i see some blueticks and redbones in our hunts but bo B&T's and if you let the curs in it may get a some more people to come to comp. hunts.

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curs suck

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you have never hunting with one then there Dckasten.

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can i hunt my hounds in your cur hunts

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i want it to be just one hunt so we all just hunt together and dont have 2 classes.

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Re: Not Me

quote:
Originally posted by Jerry West
I don't think the curs: Blackmouth, Leopard, Yellow, Jack Russel, or whatever, have any business being in the woods with hounds. It has nothing to do with ability or compitition. BUT, IT HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH WHY WE BREED HOUNDS.... BECUASE WE ENJOY LISTENING TO HOUNDS TRACK AND TREE A COON. I'm not interested in listening to squeky-mouthed, silent trailing, 130 bark tree dog curs. I don't care if they tree 4 sacks full of coons. that's not why I go coon hunting. THEY ARE VARMIT DOGS, NOT COON DOGS. If a person wants to "meat" or 'hide' hunt, the cur dog is the way to go, but for the pleasure of listening to a hound work a track, locate on the tree, and turn over to a solid tree bark, WE MUST NEVER ALLOW THIS GREAT GULF TO BE CROSSED BY CURS HUNTING IN COMPITITION. \ ENOUGH SAID.


FUNNY!!!. Trott.

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may as well start running labs and golden retrievers in the hunts to i actually dont care at all who or what hunts in the hunts i just hate seein people piss and moen and cry about everything that ain there way there is no possible way to make everyone happy so deal with it

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quote:
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curs suck


Don't know if he has hunted with one, but if he has not i bet the person who told him heard it from his cousin who's boyfriend has a dad who works with a man that son hunts them, lol. If he has hunted with one then he has the right to that opinion of the one he hunted with, but they do make more than one kind. Trott.

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quote:
Originally posted by Justin Smith
PKC will let curs compete .. if Curs were showing up in numbers then other registries would take notice and cur hunters might have a leg to stand on .

Until cur hunters start showing up at their own cur hunts in numbers ( $$ ) and show up to hunt against hounds in the other registries .... then it's all hot air.



I hunt curs and Justin has a valid point, not many of us hunt them in hunts. Trott.

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Dan McDonough
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Let's See...

Get um Redtick posted this link a couple of responses ago...

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I would like to see one other breed show me something close to the standards that you see on the back of the ALCBA reg. papers.

I'm not saying that there have not been some folks who have gone around this one way or another but I would imagine that a good majority of the people have followed the rules and that is the reason that the breed has come so far in the last 50 or so years.

I think that most folks would have a hard time arguing against putting the Leopards in with the other hound breeds if the word cur was not in the name!

Leopards are open on track, they are tree dogs, they are very successfuly hunted on tree game much harder to tree than a coon (ie. bobcat & gray fox). I can't believe that they are not already the seventh UKC coonhound breed.

Black and Tan
Bluetick
English
Leopard
Plott
Redbone
Treeing Walker

That just looks right in every way to me. I would like someone to give me their best argument on why the Loepards should not be on this list. I will debate each of you who wishes to respond respectfully. Also, if you would like to respond in private you can PM me or send your response to my e-mail account.

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hears your argument quit crying if you wanna hunt a hound than hunt a hound if you wanna hunt a cur than hunt a cur i dont sit and cry to the water dog people cause i cant enter my bluetick that retrieves in there water trials even the she can sit heel fetch everything a good bird dog does

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quote:
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hears your argument quit crying if you wanna hunt a hound than hunt a hound if you wanna hunt a cur than hunt a cur i dont sit and cry to the water dog people cause i cant enter my bluetick that retrieves in there water trials even the she can sit heel fetch everything a good bird dog does


I thought the only people on here crying were the ones making excuses for not hunting them together. Maybe its just a little crying now so they wont have to cry later, when the man with the Cur is being handed the scorecard.

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a Leopard is just like a hound but smarter. and Dan McDonough nice looking leopard mine just looks like a B&T. if my leopard had longer ears you would think he is a B&T with block head

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lol yea im sure there so muchh smarter and my dad can beat up your dad

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Re: Let's See...

I think that most folks would have a hard time arguing against putting the Leopards in with the other hound breeds if the word cur was not in the name!

Leopards are open on track, they are tree dogs, they are very successfuly hunted on tree game much harder to tree than a coon (ie. bobcat & gray fox). I can't believe that they are not already the seventhed breed of hound[/B][/QUOTE]

I agree. I hunt blueticks but was given the opportunity several years ago to hunt with John Wicks leopard cur Jug.

When I got home my buddies ask me what kind of dog he was.
I told them he was a coondog. He may have been funny colored but he was a hound as far as I am concerned and a good one.
He hunted hard, opened on track with a bawl, located a tree with a dying bawl and rolled it over to a never ending chop.

I also hunted with a few more Leopards and I believe these dogs are a lot more hound than cur.

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UKC needs to check into letting curs in, if for no other reason but boost up participation in the hunts. In the local hunts i go to,they are lucky to have 10 dogs in the hunts. That's open and nt.ch. With the price of gas,entry fees for show and hunts, the registry has got to be down. Years ago, your local hunts would have anywere from 30-50 dogs at every one you attended. I think ukc needs to do whatever it takes to get back to that kind of draw out. I'm a die hard walker man, but i dont loose any sleep over another coon hunter wanting to hunt whatever color he chooses. Ive been beat by every color and that includes a cur dog. jmo!!!

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i pmed todd like 4 days ago and he said they are looking in to it. and i have a Leopard that is just like a hound.i hunt them on bear and coons.they are smarter then 3/4 hounds. a lot faster then most hounds and i have had some that have had colder noises the hounds. i talked to my grandfather and he said that he hunted grade (not reg.) dogs in the hunt. they had grade,reg. and ntch classes

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does anybody have anything WORTH talking about? I think i might start a post entilted, "HUNTING LABS WITH HOUNDS" lol hound2 your a gomer at least my dog never tried shooting me with a 12 gauge

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One other thing, Iv never hunted with a cur but now i know what kind of people hunt them. This post started with a poll so that OBVIOUSLY there based on OPINIONS. rules are rules man if you cant take the truth then you shouldnt of started the post your ignorant idiots

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quote:
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...you shouldnt of started the post your ignorant idiots

ONE CAN BE BANNED FOR CALLING A DOG A BABBLING IDIOT, YET YOU LET THIS BABBLER CALL PEOPLE IDIOTS, AND HE STAYS. WHAT GIVES?

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