Oak Ridge
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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Indiana
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I think all of you need to take a step back and look at a few things.
#1) The Iraqi military was defeated in a little over 30 days of military action. We are no longer "at war" with the Iraqi military.... We toppled a regime that had terrorized it's own citizens for many years. They had the first democratic election in what happens to be the life expectancy of an Iraqi citizen.....so tyranny is all these folks know. They are fighting a "holy war" amongst the different factions of Muslims, and we are in thier way... The military action in Iraq has nothing to do with the reason we went there in the first place. We won, and everything that happenens after that point is a consequence.
#2) We can all stand around in a circle and point our fingers at each other proclaimin "my President is bigger than your President" and NOTHING IS GOING TO CHANGE. When GW gave the command to go to Afghanistan, he enjoyed immense popularity, then again when we were ready to go to war with Saddam, his approval ratings climbed to a level that was unheard of in recent history...... He stated plainly that the war on terrorism is a long, hard battle. We were "in" with him...until it got long and hard. We were ready to sacrifice US lives, until soldiers started dying.
#3) If we depend on the main stream media to tell us the POSITIVES that have come out of our activities in the middle east, hell will be a very cold place before we get the truth. The fact that we have liberated millions of folks from the fear of execution and rape. We have rebuilt the schools, and have ensured that Iraqi GIRLS get to attend school....we have built hospitals, and we are training the Iraqi military to police themselves in a civil manner..... Your not going to hear that on FOX, CNN, or any of the other major networks. If you are relying on major media for your argument material....it will only get worse. Good news does not sell market share...never has...and never will.
#4) The democrats and republicans are the problem. The fact that our government has become so party motivated that we can not get much of anything done, because or "leaders" would rather disagree about a good idea, just because the other party supports it. It's all about public opinion, and not what is best for our country.
#5) The world is shrinking. As Americans, we can not think past our own shores and borders. Presidential foriegn policy used to be a whole lot simpler than it is today. As long as Russia was not too upset with our actions, we could piss off the rest of the world and not care. Like it or not, we have a global economy today. We can not afford to allianate the Chinese, the Middle East, and half of Europe any longer. We are dependant on them, and they are dependant on us. Every policy decision must be weighed against the reaction of the rest of the world. I for one would like to see us settle the middle east , once and for all. That would mean that we would need to take on Iran, Iraq, Syria, Lebonon, and then move on. Of course in the wake we would have upset China, who sells arms to Syria....the list of concequences is long.
#6) Until you have set in the oval office, made the decisions that have to be made we have not walked in those shoes. Its easy to hide behind our computer screens and throw daggers at the current administration...and we are all armchair politicians....
I personally believe that if we would just support whomever is in office, we would get a lot farther, and be happier as a nation. We made a commitment...now lets move on!
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