Registered: Dec 2013
Location: Nichols Ny
Posts: 1566

If your dog needs a buddy to hunt with he shouldn't be at a hunt. I don't care if mine covers. But I do care the same as Jim, or if he needs to go 300+ yards to get there. I'm not a fan of hunting one drop here and moving. I like to recut. You'd be surprised at how many guys don't work their dogs on going back to the same tree.

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: May 2008
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 3146

You are right. If you can’t recut it is tough to win consistently. A lot of dogs are lost after you unsnap them again

__________________
Get a Good One

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Jan 2013
Location: Marietta
Posts: 10790

What I mean is Jim in the new kc's if I cut and I end up with 25 strike ( you know why lol ) and dogs are treed deep by then instead of being leash locked I get to cut and maybe get another one behind or the side of them no I won't have one go a long ways to cover. They only got three minutes to cover anyways.



Tar

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Sep 2010
Location: New Paris, Indiana
Posts: 7076

What I'm saying Tar is that in that very situation your strike is shut out and at best you may get 25 on the tree. And nobody hunts for 25.

__________________
UKC Nite Champion Stylish Harry's Trixie - 2017 World Hunt Qualified - Owners - Sizemore/Martin
PKC CH/UKC GrNtCh Stylish Kate - 9/12/08 to 9/23/2016 R.I.P - Owners Sizemore/Martin
AKC/UKC NtCh Sizemore's Timber Jam Jeff 5/2/2000 to 1/22/2012 R.I.P.
AKC/UKC GrNtCh Sizemore's Timber Jam Jessi 12/21/04 to 1/21/2011 R.I.P.

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Apr 2014
Location: batsville ark
Posts: 1110

quote:

---

Originally posted by JiM
What I'm saying Tar is that in that very situation your strike is shut out and at best you may get 25 on the tree. And nobody hunts for 25.

---

Last edited by thomasg on 02-26-2018 at 01:09 PM

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: May 2012
Location: Amerika land of the free?
Posts: 1237

I have no idea I hunt extra trashy depression era sportsman hounds extra on the trashy side. LOL

__________________
The more laws a nation has the more corrupt the nation.

When the law of the land becomes unjust outlaws will rise to take their place in history.

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Jan 2013
Location: Marietta
Posts: 10790

quote:

---

Originally posted by JiM
What I'm saying Tar is that in that very situation your strike is shut out and at best you may get 25 on the tree. And nobody hunts for 25.

---

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Apr 2014
Location: batsville ark
Posts: 1110

quote:

---

Originally posted by yadkintar
How many think like I do give me an honest strike dog that will stay put with the meat and stay out of harms way I will win more than I loose. Or do y'all think you got to teach them all the tricks to make them a winner ?


Tar

---

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Jan 2013
Location: Marietta
Posts: 10790

Well in the past is where my fondest memories are !! If I am expected to cuss the moh and judges , threaten to whoop everybody on a regular basis cuss like a sailor in front of women and children. Hunt a babbling, blow deep mean dog and pull the Hankey pankey to fill in the cracks to fit in !! .................. I just won't fit in !! You can still go to many hunts anywhere around here with an honest coon treeing dog and win !! And if you conduct your self with integrity these men will respect you. That's who I want to fit in with.



But that's just me !!

Tar

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Apr 2014
Location: batsville ark
Posts: 1110

a good honest pleasure dog that is honest and good about having a coon will win a few hunts at the local level .might get lucky at the national level now and then . one you can stand to feed and hunt around the house and have some fun with.if you want to run a state race get truck tickets win a pile of money and have fortune and fame you need to have a dog like you described in the post above and no morals .lol the automatic strike dog that puts a coon you can see up a bush a mile away with sharp teeth is hard to beat with a good country coon hound .county coon dogs are what i enjoy hunting so guess im a dinosaur .lol

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Aug 2013
Location: Seneca, Mo
Posts: 5926

quote:

---

Originally posted by thomasg
.if you want to run a state race get truck tickets win a pile of money and have fortune and fame you need to have a dog like you described in the post above and no morals .lol the automatic strike dog that puts a coon you can see up a bush a mile away with sharp teeth is hard to beat with a good country coon hound .county coon dogs are what i enjoy hunting so guess im a dinosaur .lol

---

__________________
Cheyenne & Jennifer Cummings
Seneca , MO
(417)317-4815
"TEAM MAFIA"
*NATIONAL GRNITECH GRCH GRNITECH(5) HALL OF FAME PKC PLATIUM CH REDNECK BACKWOODS SHACK
2014 OK STATE CH, 2015 MO PKC LEADER, 2016 PKC NATIONALS SEMIFINALIST, 2016 UKC TOP 20, 2O17 UKC WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP 3RD PLACE, 2018 PKC SENIOR SHOWDOWN TRUCK HUNT FINAL 4, 2018 MO PKC STATE CHAMPION, 2019 AUTUMN OAKS NATIONAL GRNITE CH, 2019 PKC WORLD CH SEMIFINALIST. 2021 PKC SENIOR SHOWDOWN TRUCK HUNT FINAL 4.
*PKC WORLD CHAMPION PLATNIUM CHAMPION GRNITECH SHACK'S HEATHER ISLAND SOUTHERN STOGIE
2021 OKLAHOMA STATE CHAMPION, 2022 PKC WORLD CHAMPION, 2022 MO PKC STATE LEADER PRO SPORT TRUCK WINNER, 2025 MO PKC STATE CHAMPION

RIP
*GRNITECH PKC SCH REDNECK MAFIA PKC HALL OF FAME REPRODUCER INDUCTED 2022
*GRNITECH CH PKC SILVER CH REDNECK SHACK ATTACK aka TAC 2018 OKLAHOMA STATE CHAMPION, 2020 MO PKC STATE LEADER

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Jan 2013
Location: Marietta
Posts: 10790

Jen .........Elvis would know a dog no matter what else he does when he gets points he has to keep them I admire the people that put those dogs in those late rounds usually that means with the early round and the late round handler and hound have hunted 3 or 4 hours once when the coons were moving and later when they were not kinda like back in the day that last hour was tuff.


Tar

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Jan 2004
Location: Greenville, Ky
Posts: 4139

You do know 3 hours hunts are still an option right?

__________________
Iraq Vet, 03-05, 05-07, 09-10

Phone number 270-820-5560

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Jan 2013
Location: Marietta
Posts: 10790

Not for me they ain't lol. I want a 1 dog 30 minute hunt lol.


Tar

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Yadkin County NC
Posts: 1671

Dang I like a woman that stands up for her man and his dog.

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Dec 2013
Location: Nichols Ny
Posts: 1566

There's some differences in truck tickets vs big hunts. Big hunts the strike points matter more. Truck tickets are from local level hunts. Not many big winners are 25/100 type dogs. Only way to make up the difference for this type is to tree 1 more coon than the barker. And to do it you need speed. I'm not talking in the 4-5 mph range. More in the 10+ mph range. Which to find the ones that hunt that fast and once struck are still about that fast are extremely hard to find. But if you're hunting against a barker that averages 13-14mph then your chances are extremely low that you'll win the cast unless they slick. But another factor to throw in if your dog can't do the speed is accuracy. And just like racing speed is your friend or worst enemy.

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Apr 2014
Location: batsville ark
Posts: 1110

quote:

---

Originally posted by yadkinriver
Dang I like a woman that stands up for her man and his dog.

---

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Aug 2013
Location: Seneca, Mo
Posts: 5926

quote:

---

Originally posted by yadkinriver
Dang I like a woman that stands up for her man and his dog.

---

__________________
Cheyenne & Jennifer Cummings
Seneca , MO
(417)317-4815
"TEAM MAFIA"
*NATIONAL GRNITECH GRCH GRNITECH(5) HALL OF FAME PKC PLATIUM CH REDNECK BACKWOODS SHACK
2014 OK STATE CH, 2015 MO PKC LEADER, 2016 PKC NATIONALS SEMIFINALIST, 2016 UKC TOP 20, 2O17 UKC WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP 3RD PLACE, 2018 PKC SENIOR SHOWDOWN TRUCK HUNT FINAL 4, 2018 MO PKC STATE CHAMPION, 2019 AUTUMN OAKS NATIONAL GRNITE CH, 2019 PKC WORLD CH SEMIFINALIST. 2021 PKC SENIOR SHOWDOWN TRUCK HUNT FINAL 4.
*PKC WORLD CHAMPION PLATNIUM CHAMPION GRNITECH SHACK'S HEATHER ISLAND SOUTHERN STOGIE
2021 OKLAHOMA STATE CHAMPION, 2022 PKC WORLD CHAMPION, 2022 MO PKC STATE LEADER PRO SPORT TRUCK WINNER, 2025 MO PKC STATE CHAMPION

RIP
*GRNITECH PKC SCH REDNECK MAFIA PKC HALL OF FAME REPRODUCER INDUCTED 2022
*GRNITECH CH PKC SILVER CH REDNECK SHACK ATTACK aka TAC 2018 OKLAHOMA STATE CHAMPION, 2020 MO PKC STATE LEADER

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: May 2012
Location: Amerika land of the free?
Posts: 1237

quote:

---

Originally posted by Redneck Mafia
I disagree. There are some dogs out there that are not like you descibed are not barking idiots or mean that win state races get truck tickets and can be a pleasure to hunt and their owners have morals. Watch yourself when you go lumping all together, there are some great people and some nice guys in that catagory one my husband and several friends.
I'm going to use a phrase I think it was Elvis used a while back ... indifference. A dog that can be hunted with the best to the biggest piece of junk in any conditions and any terrain and is indifferent to all has one thing on his mind going and treeing coons, that would be a top competition hound.

---

__________________
The more laws a nation has the more corrupt the nation.

When the law of the land becomes unjust outlaws will rise to take their place in history.

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Apr 2014
Location: batsville ark
Posts: 1110

quote:

---

Originally posted by yadkintar
How many think like I do give me an honest strike dog that will stay put with the meat and stay out of harms way I will win more than I loose. Or do y'all think you got to teach them all the tricks to make them a winner ?


Tar

---

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Jan 2013
Location: Marietta
Posts: 10790

Train them to tree possums the leave right before you get there and leave everything else holding the bag but they will probly majority vote and plus the possum lol.



Tar

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Sep 2007
Location: In
Posts: 252

that funny my old dog will tree one if a dog wont leave him a lone and when the either dog trees he leaves, the good news you can tell how he trees what he is doing

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Apr 2014
Location: batsville ark
Posts: 1110

quote:

---

Originally posted by yadkintar
Train them to tree possums the leave right before you get there and leave everything else holding the bag but they will probly majority vote and plus the possum lol.



Tar

---

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: May 2005
Location: Bellevue, IA
Posts: 1874

quote:

---

Originally posted by thomasg
after 2 nights at the black eye pea clasic where half time ruby put on a coon treeing clinic night 3 they dry holed her . lol dont take long for the big boys to get the word out on a dog these days .most know every thing about any dog at any hunt they go to they might draw and what they need to increase odds of winning .

---

I hope this isn't true.

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: May 2012
Location: Amerika land of the free?
Posts: 1237

80-90% of the time most disagreements between people are not about dogs, kc politics etc. or anything that has to do with living ones life much less hunting/training ones dog at all it is about, ignorance, jealousy, greed, envy etc. jmho

__________________
The more laws a nation has the more corrupt the nation.

When the law of the land becomes unjust outlaws will rise to take their place in history.

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged