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BigRiverlilCoon
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That being said if I had to try and answer the question at the top of the post I would have to say Piazon. I do not know if he is reproducing the kind of dog that suits your hunting style Mr Carroll but he is defiantly producing a good amount of dogs that tree coons. Everyone may not like them but I have hunted with a lot guys that are proud to have thiers. If you travel around and go to enough night hunts above the mason dixon you will more than likely run into/draw some nice dogs sired by Piazon. Piazon is getting old and as far as I know no longer doing any live breedings but if you want to take your female to something that is proven I would give Mike a call.

I never got to hunt with Piazon but heard he was a nice hound.

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Anyone that has information on the Bama dog, please post what you know about him, his pedigree,etc.

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I WOULD JUST PICK ONE OF THESE

1 GRNITECH'PR'TUCKER'S BLUE BOOMER

2 GRCH GRNITECH'PR'HOLLYCREEKS TREETALKIN SMOKEY

3 GRCH GRNITECH'PR'BLUE CREEK GAUGE

4 CH GRNITECH'PR'MEAD'S BLUE JET 9

5 GRCH GRNITECH'PR'NATURAL SMOKEY RIVER REBEL

6 GRCH GRNITECH'PR'MAD-DOG MO BLUE SMOKE

7 CH GRNITECH'PR'GOODSONS ROWDY BOCEPHUS

8 GRNITECH'PR'K&W COUNTRY BLUE MIDNIGHT COLT

9 GRNITECH CH'PR'APPELS BLUE OAK BOOMIN' JET

10 GRNITECH GRCH'PR'MAKIN MUSIC BANJO

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John Carroll I own the bama dog. I raised him from a pup. Still to this day best sub 1 year old I ever hunted with. He was put in a couple hunts when he was young. Won a couple in pkc and ukc. I got it put to me pretty good when he was about 15 months old at a added hunt. I kind of got a bad taste in my mouth for the whole competition thing. He is a wide hunting dog. Good mouth nothing out of this world but good. Accurate and honest. I never have been a huge breed loyalty guy but he suited me. He's out of mackie creek bo jack and wild n blue sissy. The Allie dog that won the grand American final four there is out of my female. Also another dog that should have been put in the hunts. Thx for the interest.

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John Carroll I own the bama dog. I raised him from a pup. Still to this day best sub 1 year old I ever hunted with. He was put in a couple hunts when he was young. Won a couple in pkc and ukc. I got it put to me pretty good when he was about 15 months old at a added hunt. I kind of got a bad taste in my mouth for the whole competition thing. He is a wide hunting dog. Good mouth nothing out of this world but good. Accurate and honest. I never have been a huge breed loyalty guy but he suited me. He's out of mackie creek bo jack and wild n blue sissy. The Allie dog that won the grand American final four there is out of my female. Also another dog that should have been put in the hunts. Thx for the interest.


Thank you, sir.

Sounds like a nice hound.

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quote:
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I don't think there really is a dominant stud right now, in the way that Rambo 2 and Chief were.

I'd be happy to be proven wrong.


If there was one that had under 200 pups total, of which under 150 were ever permanantely registered, of which less than a dozen were born before 2010, but offspring had accomplished the following:
National Grand Nite Champion of breed and high scoring Bluetick of Autumn oaks, twice.
Grand National Bluetick reunion Queen of hunt, twice.
High scoring Bluetick of the Youth Nationals, 3 times.
High scoring Bluetick of the 2015 Grand American.
High scoreing Bluetick male of the 2017 Grand American.
Numerous top placements at Bluetick days events (young guns, 1st place registered etc.) as well as State hunts.
Sired 2 of the 10? Blueticks in the top 100 of the 2016 world hunt.
Netted his owner a $500 check from PKC for his SS pups having the most earnings for the only full year he was ever Super Staked.
Showed up on almost all of the Performance points won by offspring monthly reports for the last 3 years.
Exited the current reproducers list due to age as #1.
Now if there was a blue stud like that, would people take notice and consider him a top reproducer based on his own offspring's merits? Or would he first have to have the "preffered" blood line of each individual Blueticker before they would personally take notice?

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UKC GR NT CH 'pr' Mckintosh's Blue Flame Chopper
Gr Nt Ch Sheppards Northern Blue Goomba (Piazon X Dizzie) 14th place 2017 UKC world coon hound championship 100 purina point cast wins in 2018
and several other blueticks of lesser accomplishments

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If there was one that had under 200 pups total, of which under 150 were ever permanantely registered, of which less than a dozen were born before 2010, but offspring had accomplished the following:
National Grand Nite Champion of breed and high scoring Bluetick of Autumn oaks, twice.
Grand National Bluetick reunion Queen of hunt, twice.
High scoring Bluetick of the Youth Nationals, 3 times.
High scoring Bluetick of the 2015 Grand American.
High scoreing Bluetick male of the 2017 Grand American.
Numerous top placements at Bluetick days events (young guns, 1st place registered etc.) as well as State hunts.
Sired 2 of the 10? Blueticks in the top 100 of the 2016 world hunt.
Netted his owner a $500 check from PKC for his SS pups having the most earnings for the only full year he was ever Super Staked.
Showed up on almost all of the Performance points won by offspring monthly reports for the last 3 years.
Exited the current reproducers list due to age as #1.
Now if there was a blue stud like that, would people take notice and consider him a top reproducer based on his own offspring's merits? Or would he first have to have the "preffered" blood line of each individual Blueticker before they would personally take notice?



Astonishing numbers for the limited number of pups. If he had been a walker female owners would've knocked your door down booking females to him.

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quote:
Originally posted by Surveyor
If there was one that had under 200 pups total, of which under 150 were ever permanantely registered, of which less than a dozen were born before 2010, but offspring had accomplished the following:
National Grand Nite Champion of breed and high scoring Bluetick of Autumn oaks, twice.
Grand National Bluetick reunion Queen of hunt, twice.
High scoring Bluetick of the Youth Nationals, 3 times.
High scoring Bluetick of the 2015 Grand American.
High scoreing Bluetick male of the 2017 Grand American.
Numerous top placements at Bluetick days events (young guns, 1st place registered etc.) as well as State hunts.
Sired 2 of the 10? Blueticks in the top 100 of the 2016 world hunt.
Netted his owner a $500 check from PKC for his SS pups having the most earnings for the only full year he was ever Super Staked.
Showed up on almost all of the Performance points won by offspring monthly reports for the last 3 years.
Exited the current reproducers list due to age as #1.
Now if there was a blue stud like that, would people take notice and consider him a top reproducer based on his own offspring's merits? Or would he first have to have the "preffered" blood line of each individual Blueticker before they would personally take notice?



Those are impressive numbers any way you slice them.

I have never even had the opportunity to see a pup out of him down here.

One purpose of this thread was to see what was out there.

Thank you for the reply.

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quote:
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If there was one that had under 200 pups total, of which under 150 were ever permanantely registered, of which less than a dozen were born before 2010, but offspring had accomplished the following:
National Grand Nite Champion of breed and high scoring Bluetick of Autumn oaks, twice.
Grand National Bluetick reunion Queen of hunt, twice.
High scoring Bluetick of the Youth Nationals, 3 times.
High scoring Bluetick of the 2015 Grand American.
High scoreing Bluetick male of the 2017 Grand American.
Numerous top placements at Bluetick days events (young guns, 1st place registered etc.) as well as State hunts.
Sired 2 of the 10? Blueticks in the top 100 of the 2016 world hunt.
Netted his owner a $500 check from PKC for his SS pups having the most earnings for the only full year he was ever Super Staked.
Showed up on almost all of the Performance points won by offspring monthly reports for the last 3 years.
Exited the current reproducers list due to age as #1.
Now if there was a blue stud like that, would people take notice and consider him a top reproducer based on his own offspring's merits? Or would he first have to have the "preffered" blood line of each individual Blueticker before they would personally take notice?



Mike, I was aware of some of these, but not all. Very impressive list! He had one in the final 4 of the Oilfield 5000 Elimination Hunt as well.

That is what I call having a dog speak for itself! Ole Pia hasn't hurt the breed one bit! I for one respect & appreciate the way you represent yourself & your hounds. Keep up the great work!

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is piazon to old for breeding or what can you tell us.
thanks

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If there was one that had under 200 pups total, of which under 150 were ever permanantely registered, of which less than a dozen were born before 2010, but offspring had accomplished the following:
National Grand Nite Champion of breed and high scoring Bluetick of Autumn oaks, twice.
Grand National Bluetick reunion Queen of hunt, twice.
High scoring Bluetick of the Youth Nationals, 3 times.
High scoring Bluetick of the 2015 Grand American.
High scoreing Bluetick male of the 2017 Grand American.
Numerous top placements at Bluetick days events (young guns, 1st place registered etc.) as well as State hunts.
Sired 2 of the 10? Blueticks in the top 100 of the 2016 world hunt.
Netted his owner a $500 check from PKC for his SS pups having the most earnings for the only full year he was ever Super Staked.
Showed up on almost all of the Performance points won by offspring monthly reports for the last 3 years.
Exited the current reproducers list due to age as #1.
Now if there was a blue stud like that, would people take notice and consider him a top reproducer based on his own offspring's merits? Or would he first have to have the "preffered" blood line of each individual Blueticker before they would personally take notice?





Is anyone having any pups off him?

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out of SMALLS NO MO JENNA and SMALLS NO MO KASH Jennna is one of the grand reunion winners being high scoring dog Friday night out of 106 dogs 5 sat night drawing good dogs like REAL DEAL both nights and he is a coon dog....

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Re: mike

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is piazon to old for breeding or what can you tell us.
thanks


His live breeding days are over. There are 3 top females booked to breed to his frozen semen this year at this time.

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his littermate brother
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BLUE LONER (RIP)
UKC GR NT CH RATTLERS BLUE SKY (RIP)
UKC Gr NT CH, PKC Ch Sheppard's Northern Blue Abbie, (PiazonxSky) UKC GR NT CH 'pr' Sheppards Northern Blue Punkin (PiazonXAlice) High scoring Bluetick of the 2015 (50th anniversary) Grand American, 2017 National Grand Nite Champion of breed, 2017 BBOA zone 4 Nite hunt dog of the year. Queen of hunt on 2019 Grand National Bluetick Reunion, 5th place and High Scoring Bluetick of 2019 UKC world Nite hunt Championship, 2019 Triple Crown Winner.
UKC GR NT CH 'pr' Mckintosh's Blue Flame Chopper
Gr Nt Ch Sheppards Northern Blue Goomba (Piazon X Dizzie) 14th place 2017 UKC world coon hound championship 100 purina point cast wins in 2018
and several other blueticks of lesser accomplishments

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None of those 3 females would happen to live in the south?
I have been happy with mine off of him. My son (16 years old)had a goal last year to finish her in the top 16 in the PKC breed standings. We fell a little short and finished 21. This year he guarantees to make top 16 breed and set a goal for top 16 in the state. Watch for her Mike she goes by Jade.

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I have a couple sisters off gauge that I like a lot. Pretty nice females but they also come from a really nice female. I have a young dog off bocephus that has a huge mouth and a lot of hunt to her. Head full of sense also.

I also own Grnitech Grch Nolan Creek Prides Maverick HTX3. He is all coondog. He doesn't have a ton of pups on the ground but has multiple nitech and a couple Grnitech I believe. He is half brother to Bocephus. Off bodacious and a nitech double bred smokey river bred female. I would love to get more of his pups in the hands of hard hunters so I could really get him noticed. I think he is an exceptional dog.

I think the dogs that are considered the the dog to breed to right now are probably Gauge, Bocephus, and Boomer. All very nice dogs

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I have Orion, out of Piazon and Sky. I am VERY happy with him. Great mouth, cold nose, first strike hound. Locate that anyone can call. He is quiet in pen and can hunt him with ANYTHING. Did I mention that I like him and PIAZON is the man. Also have a 4 mouth old female out of Orion and littermate to Rip Tide that I am thinking of selling. All shots, tight built, Great mouth, treeing on drag. Awesome pup. If any in the south wants to breed their nice female to a little Piazon blood or interested in the pup, let me know. Charlie 843-372-8283.

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I have a female off Piazon that I would part with. to my knowledge she is from the last live breeding to Pia. 11 months old I have not messed with her $350

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koswalt

what's your number ? would be inter rested in female.. my number is 660-216-0445...

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John Gill has GRCH NITECH Meadowoods Mountain Music Blue.
He calls him Cache.
He has been breeding him heavy. He just turned 4. He is Performanced and S.S.
He is heavy Smokey River Diam Jim and Smokey River Cheif bred.

His Pups are hard going independent almost to a fault and have super track speed and 100 barks plus on the tree.
He recently bred 5 females from Wis. Ky and Ohio.
has more booked to breed. Cache is a easy breeder too,makes it look to easy.
He is located about 1 hour north east of Columbus Ohio. Loudonville.

John is a good guy and a true houndsman and he s a straight shooter.

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Mike and Piazon

Mike I told you we were going to the PKC Breed hunt. If you check out the Prohound site you can add to the list of Piazon pup accomplishments.

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There was a conversation at a hunt the other night along these lines, You ask someone who hunts blueticks, redbones or any breed other than walkers why they hunt them and you get the same answer...... I want to be different. The answer is never that they want a harder hunting, louder, more accurate, independent hound. I'd imagine only a few people in the bluetick click breed for these traits. I have hunted with three GOOD blueticks in the last 10 yrs. I would have owned any one of them.

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How were the 3 bred?

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Honestly not sure I know one went back to chief, another was spike way back, no clue on the other and he was a very dominant style of dog But I heard he wasn't very consistant. I drew him twice treed coons behind dog left and right of them good mouth hunted the woods good and was fast about it. I think the one out of chief got too ruff and the other got run over. That being said if I was going to hunt a blutick and compete I would go to Duane swaford, everybody doesn't matter what breed they hunt has told me he keeps a top hound.

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Posts: 305

Piazon

Bred Sally to piazon because of his independence and hard goin. Artificial Ai her. Only had two pups. Sally again and a male. We are hunting the Sally again female and the male can't be bought. If you are like looking for a dead loaner get you one out of pia and a female that likes to be alone. Promise u he will do his part.

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Perry Ross
North Ms.
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NiteCh RTO' Blue Dealer
GRNITECH PKC Gold Ch RTO' TREE SLAMIN SALLY
Ms. State bluetick pkc leader and top sixteen state pkc 2010 made 2010 quarter finals pkc world only blue dog that made the quarter finals. 2010 bluetick breed Ch. Has a truck ticket for 2011
PKC PCH Full Throttle Jiggs 2011 Super Stake Sire and Performance Sire

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