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Donnie Stevens
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Re: Come on guys

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Just look in your rulebook, page11, clubs can give out most any award they choose ,money, trophies or no awards, just the little yellow slip. But the clubs still have to send UKC 2 dollars per dog recording fees.and pay the license for the event, the way I read it anyway. I think its been like this for awhile, somebody just figured it out.---lol


I haven't looked but it sounds familiar. This is setting up a dif purse only for grand nites tho. And dif entry fees. That's not the same thing. Is it ?

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Re: Re: Come on guys

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I haven't looked but it sounds familiar. This is setting up a dif purse only for grand nites tho. And dif entry fees. That's not the same thing. Is it ?


What about the sentence on special instructions, wouldn't that cover it?

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I never bothered to look about prizes but like I said I thought if they changed something in the format they would have posted it.

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I agree Grntchs need somthing. Buuuuut right now on a $20 entry fee all you send ukc is $2 so Grntch hunt $30 club gets $5 and has to furnish a guide unless they have one that wants to hunt that has a Grntch I think as time goes on the super slams are going to grow if I had a Grntch that's the way I would go or if your wanting to hunt for $$$ hunt in the $$$ hunts least you would get credit for what you win.

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Re: Come on guys

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Originally posted by HERSHSHUNTIN
Just look in your rulebook, page11, clubs can give out most any award they choose ,money, trophies or no awards, just the little yellow slip. But the clubs still have to send UKC 2 dollars per dog recording fees.and pay the license for the event, the way I read it anyway. I think its been like this for awhile, somebody just figured it out.---lol


There's your answer! Someone put their heads together and came up with a plan that they hope will draw more dogs to their hunt. Instead of the club taking that extra money they are giving it back to the hunters. Bet they bank on selling a few more burgers and fries. Kudos to the greencastle club!

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Ok Allen here it comes I disagree :

Why because if you start this if you got a small club that struggles to get guides anyway and 4 to 8 Grntchs show up wanting to hunt for $$$ and you have nobody to guide or judge them and the moh has to try and settle their disputes Its opening up a can of worms it should be that if the club is going to do this if it's not advertised ahead of time then the clubs not responsible for having it. Just need some boundrys set in place. Respectfully tar.

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quote:
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Ok Allen here it comes I disagree :

Why because if you start this if you got a small club that struggles to get guides anyway and 4 to 8 Grntchs show up wanting to hunt for $$$ and you have nobody to guide or judge them and the moh has to try and settle their disputes Its opening up a can of worms it should be that if the club is going to do this if it's not advertised ahead of time then the clubs not responsible for having it. Just need some boundrys set in place. Respectfully tar.



Than don't do it if you don't have the guides.

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Not good to turn people away when they show up it needs to be advertised ahead of time if the club is going to sponsor this or is it hunting judges or non hunting on hunt dirrector you have to have a panel we are the ones going to have to deal with it needs more thought.

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And what happens to the money if it's a dead cast? Does it go to the club? Remember in ukc you have to have plus to win. Or are we changing some rules too?

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It's the same as the rest of the hunt. Hunting judge, moh or hunt director will settle any questions. As far as payouts, every cast winner will receive cast win money but only the high score dog will win the Ukc performance money. I can't remember what we talked about to do with the money if no cast winner. I call Doug and put it on here for you guys. And for the ahead of time advertise, we did in the upcoming events in the bloodlines. Of you look coatsville, indiana has it in there right now for a hunt in February.

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quote:
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And what happens to the money if it's a dead cast? Does it go to the club? Remember in ukc you have to have plus to win. Or are we changing some rules too?
Yes club keeps it all but UKC fees if there is not a plus point winner

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So hold the phone this whole time everybody has been complaining about hunting for a yellow slip they could have been hunting for a cash pool?????? And it's available to ntch. & reg. Aswell!!!! Now my question is is there a cap onthe entry? And if nobody trees a coon does that go to the club? If so I like it!

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quote:
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Yes club keeps it all but UKC fees if there is not a plus point winner
sorry I was typing when u responded

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quote:
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sorry I was typing when u responded


I say if a cast doesn't come in with plus points then put that money into a Jackpot and at the next hunt just make it an added purse deal. That would really draw a big crowd in and plus ppl that's gonna hunt will them wanna guide even more. Or just pay the guides

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Up to the club

quote:
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Ok Allen here it comes I disagree :

Why because if you start this if you got a small club that struggles to get guides anyway and 4 to 8 Grntchs show up wanting to hunt for $$$ and you have nobody to guide or judge them and the moh has to try and settle their disputes Its opening up a can of worms it should be that if the club is going to do this if it's not advertised ahead of time then the clubs not responsible for having it. Just need some boundrys set in place. Respectfully tar.



If the club is gonna advertise a money prize I guess they better have guides in place. They can judge themselves. If its not advertised as one who is gonna show up to hunt it?
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I say if a cast doesn't come in with plus points then put that money into a Jackpot and at the next hunt just make it an added purse deal. That would really draw a big crowd in and plus ppl that's gonna hunt will them wanna guide even more. Or just pay the guides
i say give it to the club that's the way we do our club hunts no plus then it goes to the club. That helpspay charter fees and such.

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quote:
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So hold the phone this whole time everybody has been complaining about hunting for a yellow slip they could have been hunting for a cash pool?????? And it's available to ntch. & reg. Aswell!!!! Now my question is is there a cap onthe entry? And if nobody trees a coon does that go to the club? If so I like it!


I guess tbe club can do whatever they want with the clubs money. Great deal for the hunters but it won't work for a small club. That money normally pays the power bill or the insurance.

I like it but the secretary at the club won't lol

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I guess tbe club can do whatever they want with the clubs money. Great deal for the hunters but it won't work for a small club. That money normally pays the power bill or the insurance.

I like it but the secretary at the club won't lol



How is that money used for the power bill when they are already paying it with what money they make off other hunts. Adding the Grandnites will only be a win win for the local clubs. As it's extra money they wasn't getting

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Just got off the phone with Doug. We will give the money back to the hunters reguardless of plus points. So it would then be the highest non-plus point cast winner. just remember you can't win first place and receive performance money without plus points. Heres the thing guys, no grands come typically so even if you get 4dogs to show, that's 4 more people that came to your club. This is a really good idea to get the grands more involved at the local level. We all wanna see this sport go on!!

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Just got off the phone with Doug. We will give the money back to the hunters reguardless of plus points. So it would then be the highest non-plus point cast winner. just remember you can't win first place and receive performance money without plus points. Heres the thing guys, no grands come typically so even if you get 4dogs to show, that's 4 more people that came to your club. This is a really good idea to get the grands more involved at the local level. We all wanna see this sport go on!!


Good idea, if they all hook on a possum does the guy with the best score at the time win?

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Yes

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The difficulties of a simple Ideal only are difficult for the simple mind , Hine sight is 20/20 , Burn that Bridge when we cross it make sense to me ,

sounds like a win for anyone involved who want to play the UCK game

Gr. Nt. have some where to go now

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Isn't this a Calcutta?

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quote:
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Good idea, if they all hook on a possum does the guy with the best score at the time win?



Yes !!!!

Oh lord Grntchs are getting paid for a possum now wake me up from this nightmare.

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This is not a Calcutta. A Calcutta is a pot on the side, all cast winners receive money here.

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