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Re: Re: Trump.

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Originally posted by 4play
Lmao! Can you live and/or raise a family on $7.25 an hr.?? Min. wage needs to go up.Its only went up $4.00 since '82-'83.I know I detassled corn for $4.25.
How far I don't know.Maybe $9.00ish?
Tax?The "rich" should pay more.
The poor less tax.Why not?

3rd bathroom?
WE can't even take care of our VETERANS properly.You know how much it would cost every business,restaurant,hotel,gas station,doctors office,EVERY SCHOOL and etc. to add on another bathroom?Who pays for it Govt. or the States?
Are you gonna ad a bathroom to your house for Uncle Jo{e}?

Last 8 years have been terrible,and you want more of it?

Anybody that Votes for Hillary needs to relinquish their "Man Card"!!!




To address your second and third points........raising taxes on the rich is the same as mandating a rise in minimum wage. The rich already pay the bulk of the taxes. I've never been hired by a poor person. Go ahead, drive them out of the country and eliminate their businesses and the jobs that come with them.

Why do you put words in my mouth like I'm advocating adding bathrooms for men who say they feel like a woman? Where did I say that? I'm against them using a womans bathroom. Simple as that. If you've got man plumbing, use the mens bathroom. I don't care what that person feels like that day.

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Tom Purdy

What does Trump have to do to earn your vote?

I am assuming one would be appoint conservative Supreme Court justices, he has already mentioned Pryor and Sykes as two on his list. What else you looking for.



1. Release his taxes.

2. Release a list of his Supreme Court nominees.

3. Stop waffling on abortion.

4. Denounce his former liberal ways.

5. Start talking policy.

6. Start campaigning based on conservative values.

7. Stop whining. (System is rigged)

8. Stop trashing other conservatives.

Here's eight off of the top of my head. If he were to do this. He would still have a trust issue. But I would probably take a flyer on him.

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To address your second and third points........raising taxes on the rich is the same as mandating a rise in minimum wage. The rich already pay the bulk of the taxes. I've never been hired by a poor person. Go ahead, drive them out of the country and eliminate their businesses and the jobs that come with them.

Why do you put words in my mouth like I'm advocating adding bathrooms for men who say they feel like a woman? Where did I say that? I'm against them using a womans bathroom. Simple as that. If you've got man plumbing, use the mens bathroom. I don't care what that person feels like that day.


Well Started, Thanks for posting. I was wondering if it was worth my time to do all that typing but then you did it for me.
Another point, the min. wage is a starting point for all union wages. Every thing goes up from there.

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Trump.

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Well Started, Thanks for posting. I was wondering if it was worth my time to do all that typing but then you did it for me.
Another point, the min. wage is a starting point for all union wages. Every thing goes up from there.




Hmmm,
What about all the small NON union Factories that only pay Min. wage!! If your there 5 years your maybe up $2.00?
They pay Min. wage and expect top quality workers to show up and do top quality work? It don't happen.
I live in a small town,own my own business and see it every day all around me.Min. wage needs to go up!
It's went up $4 in 30 yrs......wow.'Cost of living' has went up more than that!

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Obama just gave the election to Trump, Today he ordered schools to allow Kids to choose what restroom or locker room of their choice, Trump gave a very constitutional conservative answer when asked about it, Which was ,This is for the states to decide it is best left to the States . Which was the absolute best answer he could have gave.

Apparently, it has been legal for sometime for "Transgenders" to use the Restrooms of their choice. Something Under Title 9.

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Trump.

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Hmmm,
What about all the small NON union Factories that only pay Min. wage!! If your there 5 years your maybe up $2.00?
They pay Min. wage and expect top quality workers to show up and do top quality work? It don't happen.
I live in a small town,own my own business and see it every day all around me.Min. wage needs to go up!
It's went up $4 in 30 yrs......wow.'Cost of living' has went up more than that!

Trump has said when we get our jobs back the minimum wage would raise naturally through competition. Something has to be done about NAFTA. The Giant sucking sound, Well Started is right , if you raise the wage just to raise it, If it goes to 15 an hour , a small business that is paying their employees 15hr would have to raise their wages, to keep them from leaving, which causes the price of everything to rise to offset the pay increase, so in the end nothing changes for the minimum wage employee.

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Trump.

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Trump has said when we get our jobs back the minimum wage would raise naturally through competition. Something has to be done about NAFTA. The Giant sucking sound, Well Started is right , if you raise the wage just to raise it, If it goes to 15 an hour , a small business that is paying their employees 15hr would have to raise their wages, to keep them from leaving, which causes the price of everything to rise to offset the pay increase, so in the end nothing changes for the minimum wage employee.


$15 is not gonna happen!! $9-$10 would be ok.McDonalds pay $9.00.

Nafta needs to go away.Monica Bill killed us with that signing.

Nato needs balanced.If there 28 countries in it.Then all 28 pay the same
or pay others to there work.

'The Wall' needs to be built.Illegals keep wages down.

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Trump.

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Hmmm,
What about all the small NON union Factories that only pay Min. wage!! If your there 5 years your maybe up $2.00?
They pay Min. wage and expect top quality workers to show up and do top quality work? It don't happen.
I live in a small town,own my own business and see it every day all around me.Min. wage needs to go up!
It's went up $4 in 30 yrs......wow.'Cost of living' has went up more than that!



A strong economy is the only thing that can and should raise minimum wage. Period. Rising waters floats all boats. Anything else is nothing but a job killer, and makes the ones fortunate enough to retain their job now pay more for everything they buy with their new and improved minimum wage.

In a strong economy only the greenest of green workers are getting minimum wage at very basic entry level jobs, and their not there long before moving on to bigger and better.

You can only be so good at scooping ice cream!! Think about it! Make me pay more than that job can ever be worth and I will either close up shop pronto, or figure out how to get it done without a person doing it. Wendy's is a perfect example of that.

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quote:
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1. Release his taxes.



7. Stop whining. (System is rigged)

8. Stop trashing other conservatives.

Here's eight off of the top of my head. If he were to do this. He would still have a trust issue. But I would probably take a flyer on him.




He should never ever release his taxes...

What is wrong with #7???

What conservative has he trashed????

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He should never ever release his taxes...

What is wrong with #7???

What conservative has he trashed????



LOL! Are you scared what those taxes might reveal? It was demanded of others they released theirs. Why should he be different? If their's nothing to hid why not prove it?

What's wrong with 7? You ask. A whining cry baby, who always makes himself out to be the victim. Is NOT a characteristic you want in a leader.

What conservatives has he trashed.

Marco Rubio
Ben Carson
Ted Cruz
Carla Fiorina
Paul Ryan
Mitch McConnell
Megan Kelly

Now you may laugh and try to say some of those aren't conservatives, however compared to Trump their ultra conservative! I might add he attacks them personally, and never on issues.

I gave 8 points you questioned 3 what about the other 5? Are we in agreement on those points?

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Trump.

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Trump has said when we get our jobs back the minimum wage would raise naturally through competition. Something has to be done about NAFTA. The Giant sucking sound, Well Started is right , if you raise the wage just to raise it, If it goes to 15 an hour , a small business that is paying their employees 15hr would have to raise their wages, to keep them from leaving, which causes the price of everything to rise to offset the pay increase, so in the end nothing changes for the minimum wage employee.


Good post! 100% correct!

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A strong economy is the only thing that can and should raise minimum wage. Period. Rising waters floats all boats. Anything else is nothing but a job killer, and makes the ones fortunate enough to retain their job now pay more for everything they buy with their new and improved minimum wage.

In a strong economy only the greenest of green workers are getting minimum wage at very basic entry level jobs, and their not there long before moving on to bigger and better.

You can only be so good at scooping ice cream!! Think about it! Make me pay more than that job can ever be worth and I will either close up shop pronto, or figure out how to get it done without a person doing it. Wendy's is a perfect example of that.



Very good explanation!

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Trump is looking better and better to me since Obama issued the directive today that transgender people could go to the bathroom of what gender they are today. Really,seriously. What has.not is, this country come to. Seems to me our illustrious President has brought more shame to the Democratic party than Trump has the Republican party.Everyone seems to be concerned about electing an idiot to the office of President, I personally feel like we already have one there

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forget trump and billary, lets just put Phil and Si Robertson in for pres and vice, and the rest of the duck commander crew for supreme court! we would probably have a chance then! lol

^^ those are true intelligent, wise, americans in my opinion, they are compared to the jokes we have trying to run the country.

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I remember the world wanting, insisting on seeing mit romneys tax return. so he made it public and many folks were crazy over the news of what he paid in taxes, how much money he made, etc.. now, many people want to give trump a pass.
It looks to me like the people have conceded trump is a business man and are excusing him of every business deal.

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I rem the world and country insisting to see Obamas original birth certificate. Aint saw that yet I have saw where he got foreign aide for school though. I dont really care if he shows his taxes or not. Im sure he works the system for everything he can. Thats why we need a fair tax system. Then good ol Trump, illegals, self employed, dope dealers, pimps and you name it has to pay. Trillions of dollars would magically appear!

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I remember the world wanting, insisting on seeing mit romneys tax return. so he made it public and many folks were crazy over the news of what he paid in taxes, how much money he made, etc.. now, many people want to give trump a pass.
It looks to me like the people have conceded trump is a business man and are excusing him of every business deal.



Well said croatankid! If any of the other candidates would have done, or said a third of what Trump has, they would have been run out on a rail! Now it doesn't matter what Trump does or says his followers will carry his torch! They fell in love with his mouth, and now their emotionally vested! Mind closed!

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Well said croatankid! If any of the other candidates would have done, or said a third of what Trump has, they would have been run out on a rail! Now it doesn't matter what Trump does or says his followers will carry his torch! They fell in love with his mouth, and now their emotionally vested! Mind closed!


Yeah it's great. I get to watch Richard Fowler, a far left liberal activist grin from ear to ear and be practically beaming as he rubs it in several conservatives face that their candidate likes Planned Parenthood and is for raising the minimum wage.

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Thumbs up

Babes for Trump, Wow should be Hotties For Trump and some say he has a woman problem LOL.

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I remember the world wanting, insisting on seeing mit romneys tax return. so he made it public and many folks were crazy over the news of what he paid in taxes, how much money he made, etc.. now, many people want to give trump a pass.
It looks to me like the people have conceded trump is a business man and are excusing him of every business deal.



Maybe the world was wanting to see Mitt's tax return, I never did it is just stupid to release these returns. Mitt had more tax return then any normal guy would be able to figure out and even a lot of accounts aren't smart enough to figured it out. Trump has a massive tax return and most pundits would think they found something and mislabel it because they would have no idea what paper work was for where and what expense was for what. This isn't a return like most people see this would be like a book. Trump has already said he pay's as little as possible, I would say his percent is probably in the same range as Mitt's and Hillary's plus or minus 1%. But know matter what even if he paid 15% and Hillary paid 14.8% you would hear the MSM talk about how little percent Trump paid and not a word about Hillary's. I say don't release your Tax forms Trump....

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Now it doesn't matter what Trump does or says his followers will carry his torch! They fell in love with his mouth, and now their emotionally vested! Mind closed!



My mind isn't closed.. Trump was the best Candidate. He knows we need to secure our border and put up a wall. We need a strong legal immigration policy that this country follows. We need tariff's on any country that we have a trade deficit with and if they manipulate their currency. These are the 3 main topics that he started his campaign and I have not heard that he has changed his plan..

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The Wall/Tax Returns---Simple Facts

THE WALL.

Remember, you can go under it (tunnels), over it (aircraft), through it (unless you shut down all highway traffic at the borders), and around it (they have boats and aircraft).

With jets flying at 25,000 to 30,000 Ft altitude (approx. 5-6 miles high), how high would the wall have to be to stop them from flying in? Answer: High enough that we couldn't fly out. That's high enough that humans couldn't build it, and way beyond earthly engineering capabilities.

TAX RETURNS.

There is a 3 year statute of limitations for IRS audits. Exceptions: Significant understatement (falsification) of income (add 3 years), tax fraud (indefinite). There's no reason that he would be audited every year when just every 3 years would cover every year! His claims don't make sense.

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Babes for Trump, Wow should be Hotties For Trump and some say he has a woman problem LOL.

If Hillary gets in we will all have a woman problem.

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a little bit of a movie anaolgy about our political problem,

Brave Heart- DNC think they are English nobles, RNC think they are Scottish nobles always want to make deals with other nobles in exchange for more power and wealth at expense of their own countrymen.

The real William Wallace was no commoner but a knight who probably was present for many backroom deals done by nobles selling out his country and got sick of the hypocracy and corruption and his conciensce could not take it any more and he had to act.

I am not saying Trump is a Knight by any stretch of the imagination, but i bet he has been present and heard many of the deals done between dnc and rnc firsthand and knows the contempt both groups of politicians have for the Constitution and the American people whom both parties consider either indentured servants at best, serfs or outright slaves at worst. And being a man of conscience Trump feels compelled to do something, he did not have to run he could have went along to get along and continued making more money but he did not, I do not know for sure what Trump will do as President,

but i feel sure about what any professional career politician will do, D or R will continue to make back room deals systematically dismantling the Constitution, bill of rights , Bible etc.eventually to the point our children and grandchildren will one day wake up homeless in the very land that was purchased by the blood of our Brothers, Fathers and Grandfathers. One of our founding fathers said something similar about the dangers of creating a national bank , if I recall correctly it was Thomas Jefferson.

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As far the wall, check with isreal and see how well they work. I've seen them, them must be 30 feet tall. No, they are not impenetrable but they sure slow down the flow to a trickle. Aren't many Mexicans have enough money to fly over the wall, it's easier to walk over a line in the sand than over a wall. yes they can dig a tunnel. But it takes tremendous effort and time and are always discovered, sooner or later. As far the water entries, they are all chock points and well watched. Man has always used walls to control the movement of humans. because they work pretty well.
As far the tax return, no one is asking for an audited tax return. We want to see what was sent to the IRS. There are plenty of taxsperts that can tell us dummies what some of it means.

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