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For the record I don't really trust anyone. Especially politicians that speak out both sides.

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Allow me to give you a couple reasons to vote for Cruz.

1. He has fought in court for your second amendment rights!
2. He has fought by himself in congrss too stop Obamacare.

Cruz, has actions that can be observed. All anyone has observed from Trump is his mouth moving!

Meanwhile the only reasons ever cited for supporting Trump are.

1. He speaks his mind.
2. He's not part of the establishment.

Both those qualities apply equally as well to my drunk uncle! I could see ole uncle Buck late on a Friday night, standing, and proudly proclaiming were going too build a WALL, and make MEXICO pay for it!!LOL!!

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There's really no way for me or I think anybody really to know exactly why every Democrat voted for Trump. But it would invariably fall between 1 of 2 reasons. Either as a spoiler, or they kinda like Trump, and are thinking the worse case scenario would be they would have a choice between a democrat, and the closest thing to a democrat.

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I hope Cruz keeps on winning !! He is the best choice of all those running IMPO

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Where did I say anything about Trump. You assume too much. If you can read you will see where I like Kasich but he won't even get a sniff.

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I apologize! I'm glad you've seen the light as far as Trump! He's got a sniff in Ohio which is huge! In fact I may vote for him. Not because he's may favorite he's not, but he might have the best chance at winning Ohio. Thus blocking Trump from a winner take all state.

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Allow me to give you a couple reasons to vote for Cruz.

1. He has fought in court for your second amendment rights!
2. He has fought by himself in congrss too stop Obamacare.

Cruz, has actions that can be observed. All anyone has observed from Trump is his mouth moving!

Meanwhile the only reasons ever cited for supporting Trump are.

1. He speaks his mind.
2. He's not part of the establishment.

Both those qualities apply equally as well to my drunk uncle! I could see ole uncle Buck late on a Friday night, standing, and proudly proclaiming were going too build a WALL, and make MEXICO pay for it!!LOL!!

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Good talking points!

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Not talking points, just the facts. I finally heard a newsman this evening state the obvious, and that was this. "7 of the 19 events so far have been closed. Trump has lost 5 of them."

So get it down to just Cruz and Trump, take away the democrat votes, and Cruz wins handily in my opinion.

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Please quote all my reply or none.
Anything else you need stacked in Cruzes favor for a win? Or honest win?? Cause his record sure ain't working.

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Look here im nearing retirement age, my only daughter is on her 12th year in the USAF, this election is very important, i am a republican and will vote for who ever i fill is the rite man for my family rather it be Cruze or Trump, one thing is for sure if we don't stick together we will fail separately, you laugh at a wall but can't explain how cruz will abolish the irs and obama care on his 1st day, those two things are nothing but talking points.

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Look here im nearing retirement age, my only daughter is on her 12th year in the USAF, this election is very important, i am a republican and will vote for who ever i fill is the rite man for my family rather it be Cruze or Trump, one thing is for sure if we don't stick together we will fail separately, you laugh at a wall but can't explain how cruz will abolish the irs and obama care on his 1st day, those two things are nothing but talking points.

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Why did Cruz win BIG in Kansas and win convincingly in Maine?

Any guesses??

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I don't believe I ever heard him say he would abolish those on the first day. He said he would rescind every single executive action Obama has instated, on his first day. Those are not empty promises that can't be fulfilled. The next president can do that with a stroke of a pen the same way Obama instituted them because it didn't go through Congress and isn't law.

As to the IRS and Obamacare. IRS is simple. Cruz has a 10% flat tax with very few deductions. You can fill out your taxes on a postcard. It's layed out on his website. No need for the IRS at that point. Plenty of government agencies that could receive those funds and deposit them. No need to figure out complicated deductions and loopholes.

Obamacare he will use the Presidency to push and convince Congress to get something on his desk to sign that will reverse it. He would have the public behind him on that.

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Do you really think you will see him do all of this even in his first four years if he wins,I would doubt he does one in four years you have to remember who mouth the promise is coming from,a politician.

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Allow me to give you a couple reasons to vote for Cruz.

1. He has fought in court for your second amendment rights!
2. He has fought by himself in congrss too stop Obamacare.

Cruz, has actions that can be observed. All anyone has observed from Trump is his mouth moving!

Meanwhile the only reasons ever cited for supporting Trump are.

1. He speaks his mind.
2. He's not part of the establishment.

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Well here are the reasons you should support Trump. Trump is very proud of the Trump legacy and all he has owned, built and has his name stamped on it.
He started his campaign about illegal immigrants, building a wall and have Mexico pay for it. 2nd Going to bring back good paying jobs to the U.S. and have a booming industry by making great deals for the United States Citizens and stopping the huge trade deficits to other countries. 3rd Trump said we will take care of our Vet's. and have such a strong Military that it would be suicidal for anyone to mess with the United States. These are his 3 main campaign promises..
Others that he said he would do is repeal A.C.A. and replace it as it is horrible and is bad for businesses and the citizens of the U.S. Also he believes if you have a conceal carry permit then you should be able to carry in all 50 states as this is a person's fundamental right, said if a drivers licenses is good for all 50 States then a conceal carry permit should also be. As a drivers license is a privilege and carry a firearm is a Right.
Hear is something else you might want to also think about. He has 3 adult children, 1 child in college, and 1 still at home. The 3 adults are all working in business the 1 in college has her goals set for her when college is over. Now with all this wealth none of these kids just got money handed to them when they wanted it they had to work for it the same way Amish kids do . he believed in a hand up not a hand out!!!! Trump taught his kids valuable life lessons as they were growing up and didn't need to bail them out later for narcotics and drunkenness.
I will say if Cruz win's the republican nomination I would vote for him.
As far as Cruz goes his kids are to young to determine just what he is teaching them and the foot print he tries to have them follow....

As a business man Trump believes he has a legacy and is proud of it. If he can't get anything done on those 1st 3 things that he started his campaign out on. The world would look at it as failure and the Trump legacy would have a bad rap from his failure of not keeping his campaign promises if he becomes President.
As far as the others running if they don't fulfill there campaign promises no big deal they would just blame someone else as they are just politicians and that is the way politics roll.

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I'm wondering which of these is Cruz being a politician?

Was it when he successfully argued and won a landmark 2nd amendment case in DC v Heller? DC's handgun ban was struck down as infringing on the second amendment right to keep and bear arms. LANDMARK CASE

Was it when he successfully argued the Elk Grove Unified School District v. Newdow case in the Supreme Court and maintained the words "UNDER GOD" in the pledge of allegiance in public schools? LANDMARK CASE.

Was it when he successfully defended Texas in Medellín v. Texas before the Supreme Court when he had to go against his old boss George W Bush to do so??

If your not familiar with that case it involved Medellin an 18-year-old Mexican citizen) and several other gang members participated in the murder of Jennifer Ertman and Elizabeth Peña, when they raped a 14-year-old and 16-year-old girl for an hour in Houston, Texas as part of a gang initiation. Both girls were killed to prevent them from identifying their assailants. Medellín strangled one of the girls with her own shoelaces then crushing her neck with his foot. Other gang members strangled the other girl with a nylon belt, until the belt snapped.

Medellin and the government argued that he had not been advised of his Vienna Convention rights. Cruz successfully argued that A treaty is not binding domestic law!!!

As a result Medellín went to meet his Maker and was executed on August 5, 2008

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Maybe it was when Cruz successfully defended the constitutionality of the Ten Commandments monument on the Texas State Capitol grounds before the Fifth Circuit and the U.S. Supreme Court?


This record of being an unfailing Constitutionalist and Conservative regardless of the consequences is such a nasty stain when running as a Republican candidate, don't ya think?

George Bush last yr said about Ted Cruz “I just don't like the guy"

I wonder why?? Maybe because he got his a$$ kicked in the courts and Cruz was right on both law and principle!

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I'm wondering which of these is Cruz being a politician?

Was it when he successfully argued and won a landmark 2nd amendment case in DC v Heller? DC's handgun ban was struck down as infringing on the second amendment right to keep and bear arms. LANDMARK CASE

Was it when he successfully argued the Elk Grove Unified School District v. Newdow case in the Supreme Court and maintained the words "UNDER GOD" in the pledge of allegiance in public schools? LANDMARK CASE.

Was it when he successfully defended Texas in Medellín v. Texas before the Supreme Court when he had to go against his old boss George W Bush to do so??

If your not familiar with that case it involved Medellin an 18-year-old Mexican citizen) and several other gang members participated in the murder of Jennifer Ertman and Elizabeth Peña, when they raped a 14-year-old and 16-year-old girl for an hour in Houston, Texas as part of a gang initiation. Both girls were killed to prevent them from identifying their assailants. Medellín strangled one of the girls with her own shoelaces then crushing her neck with his foot. Other gang members strangled the other girl with a nylon belt, until the belt snapped.

Medellin and the government argued that he had not been advised of his Vienna Convention rights. Cruz successfully argued that A treaty is not binding domestic law!!!

As a result Medellín went to meet his Maker and was executed on August 5, 2008

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I am glad you brought the cases up he won. You should hear the reasons why he lost the cases he lost!!

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I am glad you brought the cases up he won. You should hear the reasons why he lost the cases he lost!!

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I take it that anyone that supports Trump could be your drunk uncle, cheap shots such as that are beneath you or should be!
I will ask again why should we vote for Cruz? What is one accomplished for his time in Washington? Not stand on the floor and bloke something, tell us how he will abolish the irs Really? Tell us how he will abolish obama care it is the law of the land approved by Roberts that he supported 100%.

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What an excellent rebuttal. He started from nothing and Cruz's record of having argued before the Supreme Court nine times is more than any practicing lawyer in Texas or any current member of Congress. He won 5 of the 9 in some very important cases. Maybe he should've just stayed at home so more states could enact a handgun ban or completely eliminate God from schools and eventually homes.

Michael Jordan won 6 NBA championships, but you shoulda seen some of the games he lost!! What a joke and putz he is! Lol

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I'm curious to know what you really think of Kasich. You live in Ohio and I would really like to know. From everything I have read he is able to get things done by bringing people together and I feel thats what we need. The only thing I have heard negative is about the education department in Ohio.
Also, there is no light to see. Other than liking Kasich and not liking Cruz I am totally open minded in this election or feel hopeless.

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Don't know anything about a wall but i do know when im talking to one, i asked about his time in Washington not as a lawyer, see ya at the poles.

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