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LindaWorsen
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compost it first !


Yeah made with cowdung works better as a compost.

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You can use ash as well. This really helpful as far as I know.

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I always used mule manure on my corn crop. It made the ears longer.

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No seriously why is horse manure better then dog manure?

Herbivores pass as many nutrients as they digest. Carnivores digest nearly all the nutrients in their food very little gets passed into their waste.

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Herbivores pass as many nutrients as they digest. Carnivores digest nearly all the nutrients in their food very little gets passed into their waste.


That was what I was thinking so in theory so to answer my original if I fed a heavy plant based diet to my dog it would be better fertilizer? Obv we all know that wouldn't be good for the dog.

What if I got chickens?

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I have two chickens and a guinea come get them you will get fertilizer,eggs. And a watch dog all in one !!!!

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That was what I was thinking so in theory so to answer my original if I fed a heavy plant based diet to my dog it would be better fertilizer? Obv we all know that wouldn't be good for the dog.

What if I got chickens?


You wouldn't want to put chicken crap "straight" on your garden it's hotter than horse manure but if you compost it like several have already mentioned it's good stuff on a garden.

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Horse manure is great to use,,but,,don't use any that the horses have been fed just oats,,YOU WILL REGRET IT,,I got some from farmer down the road,,all he feeds them is oats,,my garden looked like a oat field,,took me 3 years to get rid of all the oats in the garden
we use horse manure on gardens & our feilds when growing up never had a problem with weeds where ya get the weeds is from feeding poor quaity hay my granpap lime our meadows every yr my granpap fed oats &corn to all our horses it's better to use manure that has been layin all winter put it on in the spring before ya plow your ground up

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Fisher,

Having had Parasitology, I can tell you using dog feces or human is not a good idea. Either choice aids to the ease of parasites life cycle becoming part of your garden and your family.

Here is an example. Dogs most often have round worms. Using dog feces loads the soil with viable round worm eggs. Contact with contaminated soil can give your family round worms. Worse is getting round worm eggs into a sore or cut can result in the round worm getting into the blood stream. Then it can kill you or your kids if it ends up in the wrong organ.

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You wouldn't want to put chicken crap "straight" on your garden it's hotter than horse manure but if you compost it like several have already mentioned it's good stuff on a garden.

It is best to let any manure weather a year before putting on a garden because it can cook all types of plants,I use a lot of fresh dry chicken manure on starter beds but you cant put it heavy,one of the best for tomato and pepper type plants is fish manure i get it at a fish farm where they clean out the tanks,rabbit manure is a good choice to and you deal with hardly any weeds with any of these.

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About any herbivore manure will work for a garden, but what I like best is composted soil. Egg shells, lettuce scraps, banana peels, coffee grounds, cardboard, you name it. Anything for the most part that isn't meat so it doesn't attract flies producing maggots.

Add in some redworms to help with the decomposition and you end up with composted soil and worm castings. Richer soil than worm castings is hard to come up with.

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Im just gonna buy a bag if fertilizer.

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we use horse manure on gardens & our feilds when growing up never had a problem with weeds where ya get the weeds is from feeding poor quaity hay my granpap lime our meadows every yr my granpap fed oats &corn to all our horses it's better to use manure that has been layin all winter put it on in the spring before ya plow your ground up
It wasn't weeds growing,,it was the oats he fed the horses,,I wasn't the only one that got the manure from him,,and I wasn't the only one that grew more oats for the next few years either,,and I also lime,and yes,I know it's best if it's layed out all winter before applying it to the garden and putting on just before working the ground,,I've done gardening for 50 yrs,,this will be the first year of no garden in all those years,,health won't allow me to do it anymore,,it will be strange

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It wasn't weeds growing,,it was the oats he fed the horses,,I wasn't the only one that got the manure from him,,and I wasn't the only one that grew more oats for the next few years either,,and I also lime,and yes,I know it's best if it's layed out all winter before applying it to the garden and putting on just before working the ground,,I've done gardening for 50 yrs,,this will be the first year of no garden in all those years,,health won't allow me to do it anymore,,it will be strange
im same as you with the health problems i got down to where i couldn't hunt this yr finaly let my last hound go while back never had a problem with oats in our gardens but anything is possable

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I agree with hb on the poor hay but around here its hard to get before it heads out if you feed your horses mature hay that has seed in it guess what you will have weeds unless composted the whole idea of composting is to sterilize organic matter and compost grows gardens !

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and if you feed whole oats guess what ! most horsemen I know feed rolled oats

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how about B S enough on here to grow a big crop.. i liked the one about mule poop,

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I believe dog poo has way to many pathegens to be used in any garden. Normally any thing that eats meat is not a good fertlizer source.

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I've just about got enough of this s**t.

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I've just about got enough of this s**t.


Try switching to oats. Apparently it's a renewable resource. Lol.

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and if you feed whole oats guess what ! most horsemen I know feed rolled oats
yep my buddy has a roller horse wil dygest them beter than whole oats and get more nutration outa them but i heard on a show on rfd they get the nutration outa whole oats before the crap them out but i prefer rolled oats

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Your poultry manures will be fine on your garden. Layer manure will have a higher Ca level than broiler houses. If your Ca levels in your soil test are too high it will lock up your phosphourous. Start with a good soil sample first. See what you need.

Second,have your manure tested. Waters labs in Owensboro,ky is a good one to send to. See exactly what you are working with instead of just putting manure out there and trying to raise your garden. Not all manures are the same even if they come from the same species.

Next,think on some microbials to aid in breakdown in the manures and eats excess salts. Good healthy soils need maintained.

Talking about oats. If you will seed oats in your cucurbit fields in the spring. Let them grow,strip till your rows and roll the oats down. It is outstanding weed control and is putting organic material back into your soil. That organic matter will crease your soil sponge so to say and you will n face get by on less fertilize in years to come.

When using fresh manure it also has been my experience I am better off to incorporate it so it is not as subjective to above ground volatility.

Phosphourous and potash are our to main nutrients from manure. Be careful on giving your manure to many credits for nitrogen unless you are catching it out of the animal and immediately incorporating.

Have you ever walked by a chicken litter pile and smelled ammonia ? That is denitrification going on. The longer it sets the less N you are getting.

So,start with a soil test,test your manure you will be using,amend the soil with a dry blend if needed,and use liquid fertility to handle any deficiencies as growing year continues. Tissue sample throughout the growing season lets you know a good idea of how you running.

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I read yrs ago that pig manure was the BLACK GOLD of manure. They're smart, too, maybe u could train one to tree coons....win win situation.

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