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I was pulling for him at first, Not so sure now, he is too loose with his lips and has some pretty ridiculous statements.


I know for sure I won't vote for Sanders, Rand Paul, Chris Christie, Carson, Rubio.




A vote for Sanders, Paul, Christie, Jeb, Kasick, Hillary, Fiorina and Rubio will get you the same as what we have had for 28yrs. More poverty, less middle class, more violence. These are all more of the Washington machine for collectivism of power of the world. has nothing to do with the United States of America or it's citizens.

Carson could very well be the most intelligent person running for President, book intelligence but I do not believe he is the smartest. he would be better suited to be appointed the head person on health and human services. Though he would be better then any mentioned above, though I think he could be persuaded by politicians and lobbyist's.

Cruz would be better then any of the ones mentioned above. He is a constitutional scholar that would be good and do a better job then any of the others. Cruz would not waver to his convictions and the Constitution of the United States or it's Citizens and we would be safer over his watch then we are now. Cruz would be a good choice though he would be a better choice as a judge on the supreme court justice.

Huckabee was my choice 8yrs. ago and I believe he is better today then he was 8yrs, ago. Being out of Government and politics and back in the real world working even if it was just a weekend show on Fox has brought him new perspective and more common sense to the Citizens of the United States. Now I am not sure if we would have a food shortage or a surplus if he was President. As if you listen to him he uses food in a lot of his metaphors in describing the government and just how wrong and unethical they are. either seeing how much they have been lied to by there government by hearing the food examples people would stop eating or hearing food would make them hungry I'm not sure. He is a very strong advocate for the citizens and a strong supporter for Israel. He would be better for President then any of the ones listed above. I like part of his tax plan but it would not be good for the US to implement it all at once. It would be to much of a radical change and only needs to be implemented a small part not to collapse the economy in the United States. Huckabee is also a hunter..

Trump is the smartest man running in this election and a very smart successful business man. When he first started running I disliked him and said no way no how would I ever vote for Trump nor did I like his rhetoric. I will say if You can get past the blustery tv Trump and see how much he really loves the U.S. and it's legal citizens. This man has more passion and compassion for fellow Americans then all the others in that 1st list. He gave $25,000. cash to the veteran that was wrongly jailed in Mexico when he got out to get back on his feet and thanks for serving his country and didn't need No news media around for photo ops. Trump knows that we need a wall on that south border and a strong border patrol on the north. He will deport every illegal immigrant and build that wall. Trump knows we can not keep having trade deficits to foreign country's and need to be reimbursed by port fees or import taxes to give the American people opportunity jobs and wealth. Trump also knows for a successful United States we need health care that is affordable to all. Trump also knows that we need a very powerful military and need to take care and appreciate our armed forces and veterans.
Trump is also smart enough to know that Romney had that election in 2012 before the rep. party purposely blew it when they saw they would have majority of the senate. As then they would have had all 3 houses of government and would have had to repeal Obamacare as they were telling their constituents. They politicians want the government power over there citizens. Why do you think the Rino's enacted the 60 votes in the senate instead of majority votes like the dem's had. Because then they would have had to send bills to the presidents desk. The democrats could pass a mandatory government health care and every other right they want to as they have the majority uninformed vote and unintelligent vote and would not loose those votes. It doesn't matter what party you are on in Washington it only matters that you are a greedy career politician and want power over the people and the world.

The best ticket for every United States Citizen would be Trump president and one of the most intelligent Citizens in the United States that believes in the exceptionalism of the U.S. and is honored and grateful for being a Citizen of the United States,, Condoleezza Rice. Trump/Rice ticket would be the perfect ticket for the United States. Rice wants no part of politics but I do believe if Trump asked her and said U.S. needed her again to step forward and honor and help make America great again she would serve at least for the 1st term of his presidency.
if she didn't want to get back in the politics and public eye and refused then the next best thing would be a Trump/Huckabee ticket.

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I cannot figure out why these Labor Unions keep endorsing Dem's, all The Dems try to do is make it impossible for the companies they are employed by to do business.. They also forget about NAFTA which Bill Clinton signed into law, which sent thousands of union jobs to Mexico.
because the republicans hate us with every bone in their body and it makes it real hard to vote for some punk who has never worked in a ditch who tells me im not worth my wages that men have fought for or who wants to get rid of our pensions. they are all a bunch of liars but if the republicans would back the unions we would back them plain and simple!

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because the republicans hate us with every bone in their body and it makes it real hard to vote for some punk who has never worked in a ditch who tells me im not worth my wages that men have fought for or who wants to get rid of our pensions. they are all a bunch of liars but if the republicans would back the unions we would back them plain and simple!
My union job is in Mexico (GM) the problem with the teamster pensions is mismanagement by the Teamster brass. Dems do nothing for Union workers, they do a little for for the the International branch of Unions. Pretty much the only worker the Dems help are the illegal one. Edit , Republicans hate you... all they are doing is trying to preserve your rights. But vote for them idiots all you want, pretty soon there will not be any elections.

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Hillary is in favor of more and stricter gun laws, even confiscation. And will use any means necessary including executive action. Once your 2nd amendment rights are gone, so are the rest of your rights.

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So she wants to take my gun and the others want to bust my union take my pension and ss and cut my pay. which do you think will impact me more? the republicans are not looking out for my rights at all when the republicans cut spending for schools jails highways and such they take money outa my pocket! You vote your brass in not my problem my brass is amazing. and the republicans are only after your money look at raigan he took 4 trillion out of ss and put in iou's thats our money and now they wanna do away with it and medicare thats our money.

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I can guarantee losing your rights are far more important!

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Try to find one thing that dems have done for the working man in the past 25 years. Not what they say they are going to do, what they actually did? You probably will not have any luck.

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So she wants to take my gun and the others want to bust my union take my pension and ss and cut my pay. which do you think will impact me more? the republicans are not looking out for my rights at all when the republicans cut spending for schools jails highways and such they take money outa my pocket! You vote your brass in not my problem my brass is amazing. and the republicans are only after your money look at raigan he took 4 trillion out of ss and put in iou's thats our money and now they wanna do away with it and medicare thats our money.


I think every once in a while folks need to be reminded that the Govt, no matter whos in power cant give you ANYTHING unless they first take it away from someone that has worked for it.
Protecting your constitutional rights needs to be a priority for everyone, without them you wont have to worry about that union job or your bennies because they will surely be gone. The old thinking that the democrats are looking out for the little working man is obsolete, their new goal is a redistribution of wealth to the man that wont work in exchange for his vote. In the long run we are better off being paid a competitive wage based on the free market, if you are good at what you do your employer knows it and will pay for your skill or loose you to the competition. I have belonged to several unions and their main accomplishment from my perspective was to get everyone payed that union scale weather they deserved it or not and thats what makes us uncompetitive.

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Try to find one thing that dems have done for the working man in the past 25 years. Not what they say they are going to do, what they actually did? You probably will not have any luck.

Didn't Pres Bill Clinton balance the budget when he was in office? Maybe I am wrong but I think that was pretty good for everyone. Didn't Pres Obama get us ObamaCare which guarantees everyone affordable health care?

I know that these rights are not "guaranteed" by the constitution but I think that they are pretty important....
The right to affordable health care
The right to affordable housing
The right to a decent wage
The right to decent employment

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Didn't Pres Bill Clinton balance the budget when he was in office? Maybe I am wrong but I think that was pretty good for everyone. Didn't Pres Obama get us ObamaCare which guarantees everyone affordable health care?

I know that these rights are not "guaranteed" by the constitution but I think that they are pretty important....
The right to affordable health care
The right to affordable housing
The right to a decent wage
The right to decent employment


Did you quote the wrong person or something. If not you didn't fiind an example. The affordable health care act actually cost people their jobs. You have the right to work for those things you listed. If you are not making enough money or good insurance get another job or a better one if you can't afford $100,000 house buy one for $50,000. Life, liberty(that's your constitutional rights ) and the pursuit of happiness. That's what is guaranteed to American Citizens. Not cradle to the grave support from the government..

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Didn't Pres Bill Clinton balance the budget when he was in office? Maybe I am wrong but I think that was pretty good for everyone. Didn't Pres Obama get us ObamaCare which guarantees everyone affordable health care?

I know that these rights are not "guaranteed" by the constitution but I think that they are pretty important....
The right to affordable health care
The right to affordable housing
The right to a decent wage
The right to decent employment




Typical liberal thinking. Where in the world did you get the idea that you have a "right" to any of those things?

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I think every once in a while folks need to be reminded that the Govt, no matter whos in power cant give you ANYTHING unless they first take it away from someone that has worked for it.
Protecting your constitutional rights needs to be a priority for everyone, without them you wont have to worry about that union job or your bennies because they will surely be gone. The old thinking that the democrats are looking out for the little working man is obsolete, their new goal is a redistribution of wealth to the man that wont work in exchange for his vote. In the long run we are better off being paid a competitive wage based on the free market, if you are good at what you do your employer knows it and will pay for your skill or loose you to the competition. I have belonged to several unions and their main accomplishment from my perspective was to get everyone payed that union scale weather they deserved it or not and thats what makes us uncompetitive.

what is a competitive wage for a bricklayer who decides that?

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I completely understand the want to perseve our rights i really do but how did we get them in the first place? Think about that for a minute im sure you can see our forfathers gathered in a room writing out our rights. thats the same thing the unions do for the labor force! Whats that thing the pres. gives.... oh ya the state of the UNION! our gov. created a union to be stronger but the republicans are against the working man having his! If the republicans want to get rid of the union then take them all police,fire, and the united states every body can fend for themselves and you canreap the benifits! A union got us our rights. dont forget that.

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what is a competitive wage for a bricklayer who decides that?


Thats a tough job... Consider that if the free market determined your wage that a top man would make top money. Instead we have a system put in place by the union that says the lazy bricklayer gets the same money as the guy that busts his hump, where is the incentive to be the best?
I own a small business and as long as a guy is making me money i will pay whatever it takes to keep him because if i dont my competition will.
The free enterprize system is what made this the greatest nation on earth.

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And for the record i consider myself an independant strictly because democrats are for gun control. i think the thing thats gets me most about republucan candidates is the flaunt theirselves around as if they are christians but truth be told probly dont really understand a lick of scripture and that upsets me terribly! Its in red that we should help the poor. the bible says render unto ceaser what is ceasers but they complain about taxes. if the churches took care of the poor and widows and orphans instead of building bigger churches and putting money in a bank there wouldnt be a need for gov. programs. just a few of my opinions they dont mean much.

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Thats a tough job... Consider that if the free market determined your wage that a top man would make top money. Instead we have a system put in place by the union that says the lazy bricklayer gets the same money as the guy that busts his hump, where is the incentive to be the best?
I own a small business and as long as a guy is making me money i will pay whatever it takes to keep him because if i dont my competition will.
The free enterprize system is what made this the greatest nation on earth.

thats were your wrong the contract the contractor signs says he can hire or fire at his discresion. so if a lazy bricklayer is dragin us down he goes to the house! And unless there is collective barganing there is no way a working man gets a fair shake. and the republicans support right to work which means a unqualified man can walk on a job and get the same as i would without payin dues thats no better than the lazy bricklayer he is gettin to reap the benifit from what ive paid for without having to contribute anything but they are against obama care or welfare esentially the same theory talk about hypocrits!

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Another thing i like is how cruz is wantin to shut down the refugees coming hear along with many others but his father was was infact a refugee!lol

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I consider myself a Teddy Roosevelt republican, which their aren't many of anymore

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That's what is guaranteed to American Citizens. Not cradle to the grave support from the government..

Since you like my quotes so much, here is another one for you.....

Oh my goodness, have I been wrong all of these years? I thought that the job of the government was to support it's citizens? But I guess that is just some more liberal thinking. And if "liberal thinking" means that you should help those less fortunate than yourself then you are right, I am a liberal thinker. My mother instilled that in me. I guess that she was a liberal to.

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Since you like my quotes so much, here is another one for you.....

Oh my goodness, have I been wrong all of these years? I thought that the job of the government was to support it's citizens? But I guess that is just some more liberal thinking. And if "liberal thinking" means that you should help those less fortunate than yourself then you are right, I am a liberal thinker. My mother instilled that in me. I guess that she was a liberal to.

Military support yes , But paying your way all your life no.. Look around those less fortunate people are better off than the people who are paying their on way.. If a person with three kids is in the welfare system, they receive free housing , food, electric, health care all this to the tune of 60,000 a year. Then when they do a tax return they get$1000s back that they did not pay into to start with. So the next time you see someone hard at work or just at work, thank them for the %20 they are giving you. I have know/known several 7 night a week coonhunters that are on disability, if you can walk to a dog. You can work. I get it some have to vote for their check, I work for mime

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Richard, I am not going to reply to anymore of your posts. So take your shot.. The last time I took you to school, I got Banned, don't want that again, I may want to sell a high quality English Dog on here

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I thank the working people all of the time. You can ask anyone that knows me. I thank them for working and paying their S/S so that I can get my check every month. Thank you Mr Scott for working and paying your taxes and S/S. I truly appreciate it. I just hope that the government doesn't go bankrupt. That is why I liked Bill Clinton because he balanced the budget. Bush almost bankrupted us. Obama for all of his faults at least got the budget/deficit headed back in the right direction. I just wonder if Hillary has the balls to continue it.

And I am truly sorry that you got banned. I must have missed that. I get "taken to school" all of the time and it doesn't bother me. I still have a lot to learn.

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thats were your wrong the contract the contractor signs says he can hire or fire at his discresion. so if a lazy bricklayer is dragin us down he goes to the house! And unless there is collective barganing there is no way a working man gets a fair shake. and the republicans support right to work which means a unqualified man can walk on a job and get the same as i would without payin dues thats no better than the lazy bricklayer he is gettin to reap the benifit from what ive paid for without having to contribute anything but they are against obama care or welfare esentially the same theory talk about hypocrits!
I do not have any doubt that you are a hard working, good guy, brick laying is man's work. I carried Hod for a couple of summers in highschool its hard work. The biggest threat to your union and your job is illegal labor, the construction trades are what they do. Concrete ,roofers, Brick, landscaping ,framing and drywall they will drywall a whole house and a half for what most companies charge for a room. . You see them at every job site you pass, and that is with them being illegal. They are taking your work now for pennies on the dollar. Wait for the Dems to make them legal. When they can form their own companies and bid their own jobs. The union construction work force will be no more. That is who will set the market and in some cases they already are

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I thank the working people all of the time. You can ask anyone that knows me. I thank them for working and paying their S/S so that I can get my check every month. Thank you Mr Scott for working and paying your taxes and S/S. I truly appreciate it. I just hope that the government doesn't go bankrupt. That is why I liked Bill Clinton because he balanced the budget. Bush almost bankrupted us. Obama for all of his faults at least got the budget/deficit headed back in the right direction. I just wonder if Hillary has the balls to continue it.

And I am truly sorry that you got banned. I must have missed that. I get "taken to school" all of the time and it doesn't bother me. I still have a lot to learn.

LOL, this is my last reply to your posts.

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