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Gary Roberson
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The two dogs were not related very closely as Cl. Rv. Diamond Jim was by Rambo II. Of course, his mother was the Curley female that Jim Smalling owned and went back to JBS Chief and old SM Diamond Jim, if my memory serves me correctly. Love the old ad on SM Diamond Jim, can you email me a copy so that I can read it a little easier. gary@burnhambrothers.com
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Notice the open ticking and the big wide blaze over his head, I still have that crop up in most every litter I raise. The last litter out of Jill and Luke produced several with the wide blaze though both of them have primarily black heads. The litter from Lacey and Jack produced more open ticked puppies than blue ones and lots of wide blazes.
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Thanks Gary

I did some research last night between watching the Garmin and listening to s quiet race. The tracking here believe it or not is the toughest the first couple hours after dark. It's not Texas dry but it's dang dry. As the few sets in the later it gets, the better the tracking gets.

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I would think that the same is true here as well. Back in the olden days, we would pull on the dry grass when humidity was low, it would readily snap. As humidity and perhaps a dew would begin to fall, the grass would "toughen up".
Parts of Texas (east of IH 35 and especially far East Texas) are very similar to your country. Annual precipitation from 30 to 50 inches, the farther east you go, normally increases. Rainfall where I live is 21" and goes down to 14" in the Western part of the state where I hunt on occasion for lions. I will be hunting the Navajo Reservation for lions next week where the average precipitation is about the same 14-15 inches. The meteorologists are predicting a colder and wetter winter for us but there is no sign of it as of now. They say that El Nino has waters in the Pacific higher than they have been in over 50 years and that should increase our precip.
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Did you get my email Gary?

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Gary Roberson
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Just did. Thanks. Clear Rv. Diamond Jim died only a couple of years ago. Upson's Blue Boy II maybe ten years ago, but I am guessing. Dennis could tell us.
The dog you sent me the ad on is the one that goes way back there but in my opinion positively influenced the breed more than any other dog in the last 50 years.
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I am going to test the "cold nose" on my potlicker later this week as I am leaving in the morning for AZ. It has not rained for several weeks and none in the forecast until next Monday. I hope to have caught a lion for my bride of nearly 40 years and headed home before the moisture moves in.
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Hazel Hill Blueticks
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Anyone have cold nose layup ability, hounds that don't need a track to tree? I don't like a hound that will take a old track and straddle the heck out of it and take hours to tree it. I like making comp hounds look stupid. While the other mens hounds blow out of the country running 500 yards before they start hunting our hound has treed two layups before they strike. I have a female here that is really nice. We have tried to breed her twice without any luck. Anyone have hounds like this? How are they bred?

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Hazel hill blueticks

Yes we do have a hound just exactly like you described I can't begin to tell you how many coons she has treed that way she is just past 2 years old and she is out of Leon DARKSIDE

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quote:
Originally posted by Hazel Hill Blueticks
Anyone have cold nose layup ability, hounds that don't need a track to tree? I don't like a hound that will take a old track and straddle the heck out of it and take hours to tree it. I like making comp hounds look stupid. While the other mens hounds blow out of the country running 500 yards before they start hunting our hound has treed two layups before they strike. I have a female here that is really nice. We have tried to breed her twice without any luck. Anyone have hounds like this? How are they bred?


Check Spud out I drove 9 1/2 hrs and bred to him. He might b wat ur looking for.
http://forums.ukcdogs.com/showthrea...eadid=928405441

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Ron Moore
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Cold nosed??

You know, I really can't think of any that are as cold nosed of some I have hunted with in the past. The trick is to take an old track and move it without standing on their head. I owned a dog in years past out of Shelton Morris' ole Boomer dog and a granddaughter of Sabastian's Penny that was about as cold nosed as I ever want one. But I saw that rascal take tracks and work them up and tree a coon at the end while the other dogs didn't even have enough scent to tree on. He really didn't have that lay up ability though and I'm glad I was in my 20s cause I couldn't keep up with one like that today, not even close! Again, my old Bonnie female, Hammer XIII X Casey Female had a super cold nose but no lay up ability. Cold nose is good when the coon are thin and/or not moving well but without an ATV, they sometimes will walk you to death, at least here in the hills of WV This young male I have now out of George Jeffers Sport dog seems like he's going to have a fairly cold nose. He's mainly Ucthman bred. But, like I said, I haven't seen what I call COLD nosed for many years, at least the ones that can really take a track from good hounds and go with it and end up with a coon. I'm sure they're out there but it all depends what you have to test them against. Remember, everyone always has the best until they hunt with something better Have a great day....Ron

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Gary Roberson
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I just returned from NE AZ where I lion hunted for 5 straight days. I hunted 5 dogs that I bred and raised and a young male from Larry Anderson in MT that is bred similarly to mine. There were a lot of lion where we were hunting but it seems that most of them were moving down and hunting deer early in the evenings and then moving back up the mountain long before daylight. We cold trailed for the first four days, just could not seem to hit a good track. Some of the tracks were so cold that I "toned" the dogs to get them to stop trailing so that we could go look for a better track. The reason for this was that the temps got to 88 degrees by noon and the winds increased as well.
Finally Monday morning we hit a good track and after about an hour, had the track moving pretty good. Two of my dogs were crippled up so I left them in the truck. Paul Turney, a buddy from Capitan, NM came up and hunted Sunday and Monday morning and he had 12 dogs with him. Long story short, we messed with the big tom for five hours, bayed him up on boulders 6 different times and he finally crossed over the mountain about noon to the sunny and windy side. He bailed over a really steep, rocky face which allowed him to make time on the dogs. When he hit the bottom about a 1,000 feet below, the dogs could not find him out.
This lion was evidently educated to hounds as he passed under hundreds of 100 ft. tall Ponderosa Pines without trying to climb.
Yes, I agree that sometimes a dog can be too cold nosed.
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Cold nosed pup

I have an 11 month big mouthed male pup for sale out of Jim Howes Cold nosed/super fast dog! He will run and tree his own coon. Bawl on track with a nice chop on tree. Call me-419-566-8487

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