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Once the coon get to hitting it you don't have to worry about feed going bad. If you're feeding corn soaked in water you want it soured, that really pulls the coon in.


I've never had a bucket get emptied, maybe the hole isn't big enough? When it goes sour is it supposed to smell like something rotten or garbage?

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I done found a way to get them to eat regular ol dry corn. These deer huntin people came out with this powder stuff you pour on corn for deer. I bought some. Put it on my deer corn. Dang coon bout Toted my camera off. So I put some in a coon feeder to try. This stuff is called Vapple. I got the persimmon flavored. Just pour corn in bucket. Sprinkle just a little vapple on top. They will eat your bucket. Corn is a lot cheaper than cheap dog food to.

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Waste of time rite now they got tons to eat!

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I've never had a bucket get emptied, maybe the hole isn't big enough? When it goes sour is it supposed to smell like something rotten or garbage?


Yes when the corn sours it will smell.

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I've always heard to use dogfood and grape kool-aid

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I've always heard to use dogfood and grape kool-aid


Yep, I mix the dog food 50/50 with shelled corn and sprinkle it with either grape of black raspberry Kool-Aid.

You have to be careful dumping dogs out on feeders...more than coons will frequent them....







I don't have a clue what that thing is in the picture with the buck...here is another one of whatever it is....

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if you get a tire and use it then possums cant get it. The only way about any animal can get it this way is if they can reach down inside a hole, make a fist and grab the corn, and then come back out with it. Use soured corn and use a tire with the rim still on it. Just lay the tire down on the ground. Might should put a stake or small tree down inside the hole to hold it down. Cut holes about the size of a half dollar in the sides of the tire. Maybe 4 holes. Fill with corn and water and a few packs of grape cool aid mix. Once it turns sour its a coon magnet. The worse it stinks the better.

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I think we all hunt feeding coon all of the time (except maybe in breeding season when we are hunting rutting coon) . Around here, you head to the wheat fields in early spring, then the mulberry thickets when they get ripe in June, then the corn fields when the ears set on and all through the fall and winter and the Cherry fence rows in late summer because we know the coon will be feeding on them when they get ripe etc. Now if I have a way to bring a food source that coon will consistently feed on right to my back door or my safest and favorite hunting spots so coon will be feeding there year round why in the world would I not want to do that?
X2 That's my same thoughts

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I guess im against the grain, i cut my dogs lose anywhere i can hunt them and expect them to do their job, i hunt small lots and big tracts of land i dont care where it is finding and treein coon is what i want, i do not hunt spots because there might not be any food in there for them

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I use feeders as a valuable tool in training/working dogs. If used properly they can really help. They are almost a must in thin coons. I even have one in my back yard, so I can confirm for certain it is a coon I am turning a young dog loose on.
I don't like the use of feeders in nite hunts. Drawing out with someone that does after traveling to a hunt and then seeing his dog continuously go straight to a feeder and strike then usually get first tree because he was well ahead of the other dogs is not the intent of nite hunts.
Many will say "what's the difference between hunting off a feeder and hunting a field of sweet corn???" Back in the late 80's and early 90's when feeders really got popular, Steve Fielder said it best..."the difference is that the sweet corn wasn't put there for the sole purpose of gaining an advantage in a nite hunt, the feeder was."
There is still no rule regarding dumping dogs on a feeder in a nite hunt and because this would be so difficult to prove I doubt there ever will be. I have trouble assigning the same value to a dog that was championed over feeders as I do one that hunted for it.
One of the sharpest cheaters I ever saw had feeders set up in the woods. He placed them just on the other side of an old fence. About 100 feet or so down the fence line from the feeder was a hole cut in the fence so a dog could fit through it...his dogs were well educated where the feeders were as well as the hole. The rest of the cast would typically minus out getting called "treed" on the fence when they couldn't find the hole.
Just about every dog in his kennel was either grand or nite champion...you don't even hear about him these days. I guess everyone caught on to his game.

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I use feeders as a valuable tool in training/working dogs. If used properly they can really help. They are almost a must in thin coons. I even have one in my back yard, so I can confirm for certain it is a coon I am turning a young dog loose on.
I don't like the use of feeders in nite hunts. Drawing out with someone that does after traveling to a hunt and then seeing his dog continuously go straight to a feeder and strike then usually get first tree because he was well ahead of the other dogs is not the intent of nite hunts.
Many will say "what's the difference between hunting off a feeder and hunting a field of sweet corn???" Back in the late 80's and early 90's when feeders really got popular, Steve Fielder said it best..."the difference is that the sweet corn wasn't put there for the sole purpose of gaining an advantage in a nite hunt, the feeder was."
There is still no rule regarding dumping dogs on a feeder in a nite hunt and because this would be so difficult to prove I doubt there ever will be. I have trouble assigning the same value to a dog that was championed over feeders as I do one that hunted for it.
One of the sharpest cheaters I ever saw had feeders set up in the woods. He placed them just on the other side of an old fence. About 100 feet or so down the fence line from the feeder was a hole cut in the fence so a dog could fit through it...his dogs were well educated where the feeders were as well as the hole. The rest of the cast would typically minus out getting called "treed" on the fence when they couldn't find the hole.
Just about every dog in his kennel was either grand or nite champion...you don't even hear about him these days. I guess everyone caught on to his game.



Another PERFECT example of why "hunt records" would be SO great. Please go read my thread about "but how many hunts did it take ?? ".

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And why cant a possum reach in and get corn out of a hole? Ive never heard that.

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Squirrels will chew the hole bigger to get inside also, and you can catch a
Grinner in a dogproof soooo.....??

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Never seen a opossum that couldn't eat out of a feeder...that aside, animals don't have to actually get the food out and eat it to be attracted to the feeder and hang around.
I made up a bunch of buckets last year and used PVC spouts. Just as you say, the squirrels chewed them back until they could get to the food. I had to change everyone of them out to galvanized iron pipe. That fixed the squirrel problem, but they still hang around and eat the spilled feed.

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i must say msinc thats dedication, i got so sick of feeders and keeping up with them i said pi$$ on them

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i must say msinc thats dedication, i got so sick of feeders and keeping up with them i said pi$$ on them


Haha...wait till you walk in to bait one up and there is a 600 plus pound black bear standing there waiting for dinner!!!!
If I've had enough Bushmills I will chase him away...that is dedication!!!!!
Or a big nasty skunk dancin' on his front feet...I think that is worse than the bear. He only hurts for a few days, that darn skunk will make me stink for a month!!!!

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I popped the lid on a bucket feeder, filled with shelled corn one time, to find a flying squirrel looking up at me-seems he had dug his way through the spout up through the corn only to find there was nowhere else to go!

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I filled 3 up last week with dog food. Aint touched em. Bears aint even tore them up. Im thinking the dern dogfood is bad!!! I hope anyhow. Dog has covered some Dern ground. I hope my coon are not dead.

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I filled 3 up last week with dog food. Aint touched em. Bears aint even tore them up. Im thinking the dern dogfood is bad!!! I hope anyhow. Dog has covered some Dern ground. I hope my coon are not dead.


In North Georgia how do you keep the wild boars out of it????? If them or the bear wont eat it then I would say it's bad.

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I popped the lid on a bucket feeder, filled with shelled corn one time, to find a flying squirrel looking up at me-seems he had dug his way through the spout up through the corn only to find there was nowhere else to go!


Flying squirrels are weird little animals...I once was cleaning out some bluebird houses in the spring and had one fly out and stick on a tree about 40 feet away. Only to glide back and land on the side of my head and bite the daylights out of my ear...turns out it was a mother squirrel with a litter in the bird house. I left her alone. About all I can say is I am glad they don't get 600 pounds!!!!!

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In North Georgia how do you keep the wild boars out of it????? If them or the bear wont eat it then I would say it's bad.
Not to many wild hogs where I hunt. As of now. I ran across a feller that has a bunch of cats. He has a crap load of big kitty litter buckets. So I just put a nipple in one. Hang it up. When something totes it off. I just put another out.

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I finally broke-down and put out several feeders the other day. I used whole corn and some dog food... I didn't add anything for smell, or water it down. Is that really necessary???

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I think it would really be up to you. I don't think you would need to have anything on corn. When I worked for the outffiter service we put corn out for the deer and there was always 10 or 15 in pile with nothing on it just plain old corn.

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I finally broke-down and put out several feeders the other day. I used whole corn and some dog food... I didn't add anything for smell, or water it down. Is that really necessary???


No, in the winter I use exactly what you did. I only use the grape Kool-Aid as an extra enticer in the summer because there is so much other food out there for them. If they hit it, and they will then you really don't need to add anything. I have never added water or let my corn sour. First of all, the wet soured corn wont feed out of a bucket type feeder. The soured wet corn has to be in a tire. Personally I don't like old tires junking up my woods {in spite of the fact that I am a hillbilly!!!} I just think a camo bucket tied to a tree is harder for some idiot to spot and mess around with.
Up on the mountain where I have my cabin I don't even add dog food, just dry shelled corn. Up there they are glad to get anything.

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