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Every registry is different UKC is designed as a championship registry. Yes there are other registries that give big awards in cash or trucks, though the registries don't do this sponsors and the coon hunters make this possible by paying larger entry fees.

Everyone has a choice of what they want. UKC World Champion Title today is still the Premier Title out there of any title out there. More dogs and hunters go after this title then any other title out there.

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Every registry is different UKC is designed as a championship registry. Yes there are other registries that give big awards in cash or trucks, though the registries don't do this sponsors and the coon hunters make this possible by paying larger entry fees.

Everyone has a choice of what they want. UKC World Champion Title today is still the Premier Title out there of any title out there. More dogs and hunters go after this title then any other title out there.

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I'm gonna guess around 2,000 dogs enter paying up to 5,000 entries each year.

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How many of the dogs entered in the RQE's are trying to get qualified for the Zones and how many are just trying to earn points toward a title? The "Premeir Title" all depends on who you ask and their opinion. This could be argued for days. I would think that anyone would be very happy/proud of either PKC or UKC World Championship Title. Of course, the PKC title comes with a little $$$ as an added bonus.

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How many of the dogs entered in the RQE's are trying to get qualified for the Zones and how many are just trying to earn points toward a title? The "Premeir Title" all depends on who you ask and their opinion. This could be argued for days. I would think that anyone would be very happy/proud of either PKC or UKC World Championship Title. Of course, the PKC title comes with a little $$$ as an added bonus.

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$250 to win $1200 roughly Ukc hunt split $875
$300 to win $4500 Pkc pro hunt split $2300

That's why

I also think making the handlers pay so far in advance has something to do with it. That should just take a deposit like everyone else

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I agree with the paying in full in advance has something to do with it but then again i can see why its done that way to make sure the prize money is available if you pay your advanced entry i'm sure you'll attend rather than lets say you only have to pay $50 you may show up you may not now if you spend the $250 you'll most likely be in attendance.

I think it will get traction it just takes time. I think advertising the individual hunts may help but if you make it a series where at the end there is a big hunt with a decent pay out for the winners of the hunts you'll see the attendance rise a lil.

my club is going to hold the max of 3 mini slams next year to hopefully help draw more hunters but then again it may or may not help.

I hunt both registries n believe me the OE events no one who is hunting them is getting rich off just those.

personally i like the UKC rules a lil better than $KC for the fact that I don't think a dog that scores -100 lets say should be considered a cast winner just my opinion. n i know that someone will say the old say "well someone has to win the money". but i know personally if my dog won with a negative score it doesn't deserve to win a thing.

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Even the ukc reckonises that u need a winner in the slam events allowing a dog to advance with a minus score providing that dog has a plus or circle tree on the card.

I know the liberty ind hunt didnt fill primarly because of the date. The same week as a $20000 hunt.

I think they need to go to a 36 dog field get down to top 3 and pay 3 places and 6 cast win money winners ran over 2 day hunt. Then they will get the prize money up high enough to attract dogs.

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I think they need to go to a 36 dog field get down to top 3 and pay 3 places and 6 cast win money winners ran over 2 day hunt. Then they will get the prize money up high enough to attract dogs. [/B]

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$250 to win $1200 roughly Ukc hunt split $875
$300 to win $4500 Pkc pro hunt split $2300

That's why

I also think making the handlers pay so far in advance has something to do with it. That should just take a deposit like everyone else

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amen Jim

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Jim, there is something wrong they only had 4 dogs sign up, to the hunt in liberty. I guess since it is working so well don't try and fix it.

More are getting cancelled due to not enough entry's then actually filling up. The guys that hunt those style of hunts will go where ever the money is.

And I never said I would only hunt if they changed ect...

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BTW - A heads up to those suggesting it should qualify the winners for something: Please take a little time and read all the specifics.

http://www.ukcdogs.com/Web.nsf/WebP...SuperSlamSeries

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You left out the part about those Pro Hunts requiring you to beat 63 dogs whereas the Slams require you to beat 15 dogs.


A lot of UKC hunters have howled about money hunts. Now they have them. Pay $250 for a one in four chance to win $850 and now all we hear is they won't enter cause 1) Not enough money 2) Not enough dogs 3) Don't wanna pay in advance 4) Don't like UKC rules 5) Don't like spot hunting.......

What a crock. If you dont wanna hunt them, fine. But don't sit here and say "Ill hunt them but first they gotta change this, this and this."

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Oh n like those $KC OE events are conducive for money lol

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Allen, will there be an additional entry fee for the Year End Invitational? I should think that the dog that qualified would be the one to hunt in it, not the owner. I don't understand the reasoning behind that part. An owner could switch dogs and hunt one that had never been hunted in one of the Super Slams. It looks like there will only be about 25 or less dogs hunting in it. If you only let the top 16 money winning dogs hunt then there would be more incentive to hunt in several Super Slams.

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You left out the part about those Pro Hunts requiring you to beat 63 dogs whereas the Slams require you to beat 15 dogs.


A lot of UKC hunters have howled about money hunts. Now they have them. Pay $250 for a one in four chance to win $850 and now all we hear is they won't enter cause 1) Not enough money 2) Not enough dogs 3) Don't wanna pay in advance 4) Don't like UKC rules 5) Don't like spot hunting.......

What a crock. If you dont wanna hunt them, fine. But don't sit here and say "Ill hunt them but first they gotta change this, this and this."

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Oh n like those $KC OE events are conducive for money lol

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WE had SUPER SLAM last night. The entries had sold out early and a good crowd showed up last night. The club furnished a great supper of BBQ tenderloin, boiled potatoes and green beans at no charge, donations only. A lot of fellowship was had by all. All cast came in with plus points. Not one single complaint of any kind. Cast winners decided to split giving them $ 850 each. Everyone had a great time and are already looking forward to next year. Everything is what you make of it and we had a great group of hunters.
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WE had SUPER SLAM last night. The entries had sold out early and a good crowd showed up last night. The club furnished a great supper of BBQ tenderloin, boiled potatoes and green beans at no charge, donations only. A lot of fellowship was had by all. All cast came in with plus points. Not one single complaint of any kind. Cast winners decided to split giving them $ 845 each. Everyone had a great time and are already looking forward to next year. Everything is what you make of it and we had a great group of hunters.
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Ill be heading to Iowa later this summer. Money isn't everything fellows. Hunted in one pkc hunt seen two of the worst dogs I've ever drew. One was mean both quit trailing to come to my dog. Also drew a cheating son of a gun as a judge. So have at it.

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Ill be heading to Iowa later this summer. Money isn't everything fellows. Hunted in one pkc hunt seen two of the worst dogs I've ever drew. One was mean both quit trailing to come to my dog. Also drew a cheating son of a gun as a judge. So have at it.

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I think UKC should come up with a few new Super Slam hunt titles. The only way to achive each title is by earning the set amount of money at a Super Slam hunt. Have 3 titles at 2 or 3,000$ apart from each other, that would make for some challenging titles to achive and something more for UKC hunters to run for.

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I think UKC should come up with a few new Super Slam hunt titles. The only way to achive each title is by earning the set amount of money at a Super Slam hunt. Have 3 titles at 2 or 3,000$ apart from each other, that would make for some challenging titles to achive and something more for UKC hunters to run for.

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