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bobbycagle1
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I don't know fellows! Nowadays there's so much pressure on the job place, and at home. When a person gets to a hunt, maybe some of that pressure from everyday life, comes to the hunt as well.?? Idk. But I know when I go to a hunt, I like it laid back. Most of the hunts I've been on have been that way, but a few have been very tense.

As far as the rules go, its a good idea to know the rules, or at least familiarize yourself with them before you go on a hunt. That'll help out tremendously!

I also believe the judge and guide can set the tone of a cast, or at least influence how well it gets along. I bet a lot of y'all know exactly what im talking about? Sometimes the judge's tone means a lot. How does he let the handler know about a decision? Is he nice about it, does he use tact in a positive respectful way? It can make huge difference in how well the cast gets along and make the hunt a lot more enjoyable! Jmo.

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Originally posted by Jacob Holt
I never said I got screwed I screwed myself by letting stuff slide.


Jacob - I'm not sure if that was aimed at my comments or not, but rest assured, I wasn't referring to you. I was speaking to my own personal experiences. And providing a counter argument, to those that said knowing the rules was not critical. I personally think it is.

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Couldn't agree more, Bobby! IMO, the whole world has become Too Tense!

If I ever found myself in a final four, I'm sure my attitude would change, but nowadays I go to a hunt, to just enjoy the hunt. I pack a dog that can win a hunt, but I don't go there to win, I go there to coon hunt! When I decided to take that mental approach, two things happened... I became less tense, and I cared less about how others acted.

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Re: The Rules

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Hunts, especially with a bunch of independent dogs can become somewhat complicated. And when your judge is a volunteer that is trying to call their own dog, and enjoy the hunt themselves, but have to spend every minute explaining them self to someone, it quickly becomes a nightmare for them. AND depending on how patient they are, they can quickly make it a nightmare for the person with all the questions!


That's very well stated, sounds like you've had me for a judge. I don't know the rule book inside out and really don't like to judge because I just want to concentrate on calling my own dog. If the cards in my hand it's only because I was trying to help, and that is tough when you have to explain yourself on every call.

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Know the rules, know how to apply the rules, have the kahunas to speak up when you need to. You don't have to be an azz to disagree. If you are not sure just ? it and take it back and clear it up. In life its up to me to keep from being taken advantage of, no different in a hunt.

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once there was a thing called ethics. it guided people in everything they did. Honor was more than just a word, it was the goal.

then one day pride killed honor. winning the battle (cast) became more important than winning the war (improvement of breeds).

Ethics died as well. Pride became the new goal.

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deschmidt27 I wasnt meaning anything toward anyone. Just venting a little seems like every time someone says they didnt have an enjoyable hunt everyone assumes they dont no the rules and I admit I dont no them as much as a lot of you guys by no means but I do have a good idea of whats going on for the most part. Maybe im just the most unlucky person in the world when it comes to getting drew out I dont no but I have went with my good friend to a club about 2 hours from home and the people were a hole lot different everything just was smoother and the hunt was a lot more enjoyable. I think when they get started back up in the spring i will drive up there and try it again.

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Having Fun on the Hunts???

YEP!

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I guess to answer the question... yes, I too enjoy the hunts!

But as I said, I go to them with a different set of expectations than some.

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That's the attitude to come with! Good advice David!

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I got started a couple of years ago. Don't own anything special. But go and participate. I have left a couple of cast wins In the woods. Everytime I have learned something. I have won a lil in Pkc. ( with plus points). I enjoy it and try to do what's right. May the best team win. Dog and handler are a team. Sometimes a handler is the strongest part sometimes it's the dog. I have only had one problem with a cast member. Other than that it's been pretty good and enjoyable. I think how much you enjoy is based on your attitude. I am not letting anyone ruin something I love to do. As a newbie I realized my education was gonna cost me some money and I am fine with that.

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As a newbie I realized my education was gonna cost me some money and I am fine with that.


That too is a great attitude! It shouldn't have to be that way, but that's the reality in much that we do, in life.

Life brings us lessons, but it's up to us, to learn from them...

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That too is a great attitude! It shouldn't have to be that way, but that's the reality in much that we do, in life.

Life brings us lessons, but it's up to us, to learn from them...



It really is about just enjoying life, and this sport we all love so well. I'll have to admit, its really easy to get caught up in the competition side of it. I've always my whole life been really competitive in sports, and everything as far as that goes. But the older I get, the more I seem to crave peace and quiet! I'm not near as competitive as I use to be, and I tend to run from controversy anymore. Anymore, laughter and a smile is medicine to a controversial call.

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