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HILLBILLYS BLU
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sounds about right

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Originally posted by Vic Stoll
I would like to have the problem of having a blue male that was nice enough to have the owner of a nice female from another breed want to consider using him

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So many people say, "well if I had a stud dog I wouldn't......", but how many would actually turn down the cash based on principals???? Just asking, not pointing fingers at anyone.

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Originally posted by ov_blues
So many people say, "well if I had a stud dog I wouldn't......", but how many would actually turn down the cash based on principals???? Just asking, not pointing fingers at anyone.

I wont do it for any amount of money! Money will make most breed to poodles but not me. How is that bettering anything? Pkc has had these cross dressed dogs forever and show me how that has helped anything? To go backwards and start crossbreeding again would be a slap in the face to those that have paved the way for us to hunt the blue dogs we have. Just how i feel.

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quote:
Originally posted by southernthunder
I wont do it for any amount of money! Money will make most breed to poodles but not me. How is that bettering anything? Pkc has had these cross dressed dogs forever and show me how that has helped anything? To go backwards and start crossbreeding again would be a slap in the face to those that have paved the way for us to hunt the blue dogs we have. Just how i feel.

Do you seriously think that 50 years ago when they were breeding these "blues" they weren't crossbreeding? You guys always talk about breeding to frozen semen this and that and all your doing is getting closer to the crossbreeds.

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quote:
Originally posted by southernthunder
I wont do it for any amount of money! .

come on now, really? any amount of money?

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breezyoaks
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???????

Question is do ya got anything worth breedin to......
Easy to say if yer just jabberin on the boards...........
Somebody hand ya a check...you be postin bout the latest greatest cross ya just made.....
As they say
on chicago sports talk radio....."who ya crappin"?

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Heck yea I will at least now we know up front that they will be cross breeds where as years ago they were doing it and trying to play them off as pure.Like it or not cross breeds have always worked and will today and at least now they can be legitimately registered.

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quote:
Originally posted by ratpack
Heck yea I will at least now we know up front that they will be cross breeds where as years ago they were doing it and trying to play them off as pure.Like it or not cross breeds have always worked and will today and at least now they can be legitimately registered.

Holy hell we agree on something

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quote:
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Holy hell we agree on something

Lol we do indeed!!

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Adam Davis
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quote:
Originally posted by southernthunder
To go backwards and start crossbreeding again would be a slap in the face to those that have paved the way for us to hunt the blue dogs we have. Just how i feel.

LOL Guess you never have heard Larry tell about breeding ole highbawl to bull dog gyps. Cause he wanted good kill dogs and those big chuckled headed dogs.

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quote:
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LOL Guess you never have heard Larry tell about breeding ole highbawl to bull dog gyps. Cause he wanted good kill dogs and those big chuckled headed dogs.

lol

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Adam Davis
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guess if we want to bred to your stud dog we need to contact Larry right if larry will breed to a bull dog surely he would breed to a nice walker female

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southernthunder
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quote:
Originally posted by Adam Davis
guess if we want to bred to your stud dog we need to contact Larry right if larry will breed to a bull dog surely he would breed to a nice walker female

lol good luck

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quote:
Originally posted by Adam Davis
guess if we want to bred to your stud dog we need to contact Larry right if larry will breed to a bull dog surely he would breed to a nice walker female

lol Larry would be happy to breed her Adam

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Tom Jones
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quote:
Originally posted by Joe E. Gray
Do you seriously think that 50 years ago when they were breeding these "blues AND WALKERS they weren't crossbreeding? You guys always talk about breeding to frozen semen this and that and all your doing is getting closer to the crossbreeds.

I fixed your post fer ya stumpbreaker lol. heck I was reading just today on the main forum, a thread started by "Jim". One walker guy got his 6 generation ped back on his walker and sees Utchman blue dogs lol.

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x-breeding

I don't see what the fuss is or why folks will bring up that it has been going on forever!!! It has also been allowed forever with single registration right?? only difference now is you can look at some papers showing you what dogs are behind them?

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HILLBILLYS BLU
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Re: x-breeding

quote:
Originally posted by Tom Jones
I don't see what the fuss is or why folks will bring up that it has been going on forever!!! It has also been allowed forever with single registration right?? only difference now is you can look at some papers showing you what dogs are behind them?

I agree 100% Tom cross breeding has been goin on forever, just lied about. Single registered or just registered as English. I like to know just what I got, no matter where it comes from.

Not saying I'm completely sold on the whole crossbreed thing...... Just sayin if their my dogs, I'm gonna breed how I want.

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After carefully reading this post and considering the possible repercussions.I decided to ask my stud dog.And he replied "good or bad he still likes to practice "so long as they don't charge him! So there you have it boys,strait from the old dogs mouth.

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quote:
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After carefully reading this post and considering the possible repercussions.I decided to ask my stud dog.And he replied "good or bad he still likes to practice "so long as they don't charge him! So there you have it boys,strait from the old dogs mouth.

I love this response! Really puts the whole thing in the proper perspective from my view point!

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quote:
Originally posted by ov_blues
An English guy approached me last year about breeding his Gr Nt female to one of my dogs. He wanted to hunt with my male and we just never did get together to make it happen because I didn't make it a priority. He owned a grandsire of one of the english dogs that won the UKC World a few years ago and he said that dog had some Bluetick in him because they had bred english to blueticks in the past and then used the single registration process to get them registered as English. With the X breed now making the process of registering cross bred easier, I figure there will be some people wanting to breed to some Blue studs.

What was this guy's name ?

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Yes

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Wayne Valentino
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belong to two breed associations, both with Bluetick in the names. So only Blueticks it will always be for me. I would say no, I have said no to untrained / partially trained well bred Blue females.. If I wouldn't want a pup from em I won't breed em. High standards will make our dogs better not much else.

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I'd much rather breed to a real good female of another breed than a sorry one that is PR blue.
Gauge likes em all long as their ready!!!!

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I wonder how many on here that give their opinions on corss bred dogs and what they reproduce, have much FIRST HAND experience with them or just repeating what we have all heard time and time again, hybrid vigor, cant reproduce blah blah blah

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i respect trying to make better hounds.
i respect trying to better a breed. whatever breed that may be.
i have also never felt like i know better than the man that owns the hound if it should be bred or who it should be breed to.

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