mnb&t
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quote:
Originally posted by Ole Moody Blues
Wow,
Just saw the video....great post.
The gentlemen, had NO chance. It was a BAD set up, from the beginning.
You can not, debate, two female, on the opposite side of the debate, and expect to come across, with a valid point about animal correction.
It look unbalanced just watching video. The guy was trying to be mannerly waiting to get his point totally across, but the women totally took over/dominated the time, with there views. I really think, we needed a women to make our point during that segment.
Our (Males) experiences for situational correction, will always be beyond, the dog park or apartment. We don't kiss our hounds in the mouth. Blow kisses to them...well, I don't !
His point about the stimulation Levels being limited, or should be limited was talk over.
An earlier post about, "Frying a dogs brains out" or "Burn em up", don't make us look or sound good. and kinda support our oppositions point.
Experience the levels, yourself and it will also make there point.
There was a time, before E-collars, we still trained our hounds with great results.
And before you post a reply, I know, the training method was, a Stick, a Brick, or Bullet in some cases.
The one thing our forefathers used, was time. They took the time to train. E-collars used properly can get results in a shorter time, no doubt.
My position: E-collars are a TRAINING Tool, Not a HUNTING Tool...Today, hounds are being shocked for every thing.
Ol Blue can one day be bragged on, for being this Great Straight Hound, Grand Nite Champion and all extra titles, but everyday always have a E-collar on.
Once a hound is trained, he's trained....
Ok, let the debate, begin....
jaye, id love to see a 100lb blue on your lap blowing kisses back and forth for one! LOL.
but your right that man never had a chance in the discussion. the whole conversation was assinine.
i wish they would have let both kickem dogs out of there arms and displayed how well trained each is with commands and positive reinforcement. guarantee you that wouldnt happen.
i hunt as much as anybody and every dog i cut loose has e collar on it. ive got every dog from youngest pup to oldest veteran trained with toner for one. i rarely put a lead on unless working at tree.
i rarely shock unless extreme circumstance or blatant trash run but having ability to tone dogs can save dogs lives on nightly basis. from catching at roads to calling dogs off area cant hunt to you name it. when can afford want to get alpha system with new collars just to have vibrate feature for extra control over dogs.
anyone with a ounce of self control isnt gonna fry the dogs all the time just because collar is on them.
with common sense and level head e collar is invaluable. without common sense e collars, hot dogs, kisses, and little sweaters on the dogs wont help a thing. LOL.
bad stance by akc and bad news story by fox, end of story.
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