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Here is what Allen posted before. No, you can't run off and leave everybody, but the way I read it no one can stop you from walking toward your dog while the 8 is running on their strike and you better follow (at a reasonable pace} or be scratched for leaving the cast. I know I was in this situation once where a judge told me he wasn't "walking anywhere" while the 8 was running on my dog and I'll tell you if anybody ever tries to pull that again they will have to scratch me and we can go back and talk to the MOH.
A few things.....
1. Going back to the spot where you last heard the dog was the right thing to do. From there the eight minute clock should be applied.
2. #3 of the Telemetry Rules states that a handler may not demand the cast to walk in the direction of a hound that has not been heard opening. However, the judge (meaning non-hunting judge) or majority of the cast may agree to walk in that direction. The difference in this scenario is that the dog HAS been heard opening. Rule #3 is intended for dogs that are not struck in and have not opened period.
3. In the past when the eight minute clock was on a dog with all others on leash, it was always acceptable to walk in the direction where the dog was last heard. No different now. Seems fair when you consider the dog may have went out of hearing after all the time spent soring a different tree? Unfortunately, opinions on this sometimes change dramatically based on who's dog is out and who's dog is on the leash. Difference now is the handler will know where and how far his dog is, with the use of telemetry. Still changes nothing where the eight minute clock is concerned. The dogs on leash remain on leash until the "at large" dog is heard or the eight is up or broke.
4. In trying to imagine the amount of time burned with dogs on leash, if rules were properly applied it shouldn't have been anything out of the ordinary when the dog is treed a good distance away? 1) whatever time it took to walk to the spot you last heard the dog; plus 2) the time used into the eight when the dog was heard and called treed; plus 3) no more than ten minutes of hunt time walking to the dog; plus; 4) the amount of time used to shine the tree. Stuck with dogs on leash happens and is part of a nite hunt sometimes. We've all been there and it will surely happen again.
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