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Fisher13
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Originally posted by john Duemmer
Jacking,chewing, digging... all just the way an individual dog deals with their frustation and excitment at not being able to get to the coon.
I have never been able to or seen anyone else change the way a dog trees in any kind of permanent way.
My huntin buddy bought a wipeout bred female a couple years ago (real nice dog) that was a nice treedog until you got to the tree, as soon as she saw ya comin she went on point, i mean she froze up like a statue just stareing at the tree, not up the tree like she was waitin for the crack but straight ahead at the tree trunk. We hunted her a couple weeks and never could get a bark out of her when she knew we were near the tree.
Wheather the way a dog trees is natural to them or the result of poor handling once it is established you either live with it or move on.



Lol that's crazy

If you can teach the dog to control the frustration you can minimize it to a point where it's bearable.

I have had 2 dogs in the past couple years that seemed to be bad at this the first I just stayed on him,got in there quick and got him tied up quick, and he just seemed to settle down and grow out of it. I think he just had to realize that it was more fun to stand there and bark.

The other is my main personal female, she has been more persistent, in her case the first tree usually seems to be the worse, as the night goes on she will look better and better.
It also seems when she gets laid up it becomes worse, but when she is hunted down good, she seems to look a lot more classy. Is she completely broke of it ...no but she is much improved, since a year ago,and at a point where I feel comfortable hunting her in a cast and haven't had any complaints yet.

I agree as you breed more tree into a dog, I think a side effect is a result of more frustration, this allows poor behaviors and bad manners to develop if left uncheck. However I do think if you have a good relationship with your hound, overtime the dog can learn to control those frustrations. To me a lot of this poor manners are kinda like adolescents and if you hold the dog accountable from a young age you can keep them from developing these into habits. On the other hand I'm sure if a dog has been doing it for years it would be very difficult to break.

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qchounds
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jacking is usually(but not ALWAYS) a man-made problem... made by people hanging live traps or furs low enough in a tree that the young dog jumps trying to get to it.

But sometimes that is just how the dog wants to do it, and I don't think it can be broken.... because when you are not at the tree the dog is gonna do what it like to do!

Just don't hunt a tree-jacking dog with young dogs or aggressive dogs or you will end up with a hurt dog or a nasty fight

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