MightyOaks'Leps
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Deer Chasing...
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Originally posted by masonman1974
I would think that all breeds of coonhounds have their fair share of culls ,but if your talkin about a dog chasing deer being a fault ,then I would say the guy who trained this dog has the fault...I would think a dog that will run deer till daylight without giving up would have the drive needed to make a good coondog...if trained right...
No...not a fault...just frustrating as all get out...easy to break though once I got them sent to me to train...had a black and tan sent to me to train that was an outstanding track and tree dog that would flat bust a deer occasionally. He got broke off deer too. I had another black and tan sent to me that was lite on the tree...hunted her all summer and she went on to become a solid stay put tree dog. I tried to buy her but couldn't afford the mans price after he got her back.
Some of the dogs sent to me to train just didn't have it though. I used to hunt 6 nights a week from dusk until dawn on over 2000 acres...that was a lot of years ago.
I've also trained and owned a lot of Kemmer Curs...Blueticks...Redticks, Redbones and others. All have good and bad traits in their breeds. My favorite breed back then was Walkers though.
To break dogs from running deer I built a plywood box just big enough for the hound to enter and lay down, but they couldn't turn around in it. It was lined on all of the walls, floor and ceiling with shag carpet, saturated with deer urine. It had a small round hole on each side. Every hour, the dog was buzzed with a cattle prod without saying a word...kept in the box for 3 days and only taken out to eat, drink and use the bathroom. They usually wouldn't look at a deer after that. That was back in the day when I couldn't afford a shock collar. I also charged $40.00 dollars a month per dog...
Back to breeding: In my opinion...outcrossing to (different breeds) may produce hybrid vigor the first generation...but the genetic variables become to varied with subsequent generations...line breeding and inbreeding allows a breeder to enhance the traits he desires, and to remove traits that are faults. An outcross can be introduced from within the same breed but from a different strain to achieve better results. If we study pedigrees and creative breeding (if they are accurate) we should see lines that continually stay above the norm or the breed as a whole plotted on a bell curve will generally be family line-in bred lines. Some of the best crosses that we made were Father X Daughter...Son X Mother...etc. Some of the best known dogs produced were Father x Daughter...then a female pup from that cross bred back to her Grandsire...a female pup from that breeding crossed back on her Great Grandsire, then a female from that breeding crossed onto an out cross within the same breed but from a different line. The resultant pups exhibit Hybrid vigor and have produced Champions...not just in dogs, but most lines of horses, cattle etc. All of the modern day Thorough Bred race horses were bred from two studs and seven mares..
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11-27-2013 04:57 PM
Re: outcrosses are not needed if ya ask me
Re: outcrosses are not needed if ya ask me
