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Originally posted by GA DAWG
#1 cause I don't hunt blues

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Pretend that the leaves never come on. Which one would you take?

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Originally posted by Whitelightnin
Pretend that the leaves never come on. Which one would you take?

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that would sure chainge the way i looked at both hounds
I figure every hound i follow should atleast make me think he has a coon every time even if he dosent ! 70 trees out of a houndred means iv walked to 30 trees in the briars and cain breaks and bambo thickets for nothing ! the more you look at it like that the worse 70 percent sounds thats pretty bad

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Originally posted by N Williams
these are the final 4 everyone wants to be in and the dogs averaged out to be 39%. 50% is dang accurate over a one year period. 70% is WORLD CLASS.

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Man it sure is nice to live in a country where we all can have an opinion and no one gets to have the end all answer.

I'm not sure who sounds the most illogical. The person that thinks all dens are empty or the person that thinks all dens have a coon, (though I have not actually heard anybody say that one) It just seems to be implied over and over again.

Can we agree that a den should not count for or against the dog you are evaluating, or in this case ridiculing?

Give me that young hound ( under two years old) that is treeing 100% of every track it opens on, and has a coon or a den tree on 70% of those trees made. 100% of the time this dog is fairly efficient.

For me the young dog that is only treeing on 60% of the tracks it is opening on, simply doesn't have enough tree dog in it (for me). This dog is leaving 15 to 30 percent of the coons it is treeing, and for me that is a (cardinal) sin. DO NOT LEAVE once you have treed a coon.

When a dog gets treed you have three options. You can catch them and go home, you can scold them and send them on, or you can reward them for a job well done.

For that dog that is only treeing 60 % of its tracks, You can listen to it run 40% of the time and never get treed, causing you to either miss a lot of much needed sleep, or you can do the above mentioned things (but only 60% of the time you are out hunting.) For me this dog is only 100% efficient 60% of the time.

And by the way, I don't count dens as a negative outcome. As I like to hear a dog run and tree, but I will agree it is much more fun when you see a coon at the top, and not a patch of grapes or persimmons, LOL!! Every time I walk to a den tree, I walk away thinking & telling my hound he/she needs to learn how to track faster so that ole coon doesn't have time to get to a den. Good Hunting to All, Some seasons are in but many more are just around the corner. Enjoy Gods most wonderful masterpiece and be safe doing so.

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Pretend that the leaves never come on. Which one would you take?

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Originally posted by john Duemmer
What would you rather have in a young dog with 30 nights alone?

1] young dog gets treed on every track but misses about 30%

2] young dog only gets treed on about 60% of the tracks she starts but usually has the coon.

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[B]most people think when a dog trees slick it was short on finishing the track ,, when in fact the majority of them on many of their slick trees have ran the track backwards to a tree.

Count 1\2 of those dens as back tracks toe cutter. Run one the wrong way you will walk to a lot of dens
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My time that I've been coon hunting dog number 2 will be a winner,just give dog number 2 time to grow up,dog #1 might get better if corrected but most of the time dog #1 will be a tree crazy idiot and draw lot's of minus.

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Id be happy to keep them both and win most of the local hunts around here

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Originally posted by big m.d.
Id be happy to keep them both and win most of the local hunts around here

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Originally posted by gottabered
sounds like dog 2 is checking her trees (like a real coondog is suppose to do) THINK I WILL TAKE DOG 2 AND GIVE HER SOME TIME!

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That's how my old bitch is,& unless it's a den there's meat in that there tree...#2

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I would venture to say, as these kittens split up, and get more to a full grown size, dog # 2 will start to look a lot better.
Dog #1 will probably look best through the summer months, and will be tough to beat. While dog #2 will look better in tough conditions.
I personally think your looking at it the wrong way. Rather then which dog is better, I would look at it like which type of dog do I prefer? No one can answer that for you.

As this forum shows, some prefer more of an action packed type hound, other prefer the higher accuracy.
I'm in a similar situation, I appreciate both and am glad there both not the same. But I do wish I could put them together under one collar, and have a happy medium between the two.

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HI JOHN===HEY I GOT A 15 MON. MALE IF HE HITS A GOOD TRACK AND IT GOES UP I WUD PUT A 1OO BUCKS ON HE CUD BEAT CHOPPER== BUT==IF HE HITS A TRACK THAT IS COLD AN HAS TO WORK AN CANT FINISH IT THE TREE WILL B SLICK == NOW -= WHICH WUD YOU RATHER HAVE A HOT TRACK AN BOOM BANG TREED== OR COME UP SHORT WITH A COLD TRACK ???? AT LEAST I DONT HAVE TO WAIT TO LONG TILL HE GETS TREED ==GOOD LUCK MAN

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Originally posted by curtis hansley
My time that I've been coon hunting dog number 2 will be a winner,just give dog number 2 time to grow up,dog #1 might get better if corrected but most of the time dog #1 will be a tree crazy idiot and draw lot's of minus.

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