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So according to you guys a dog that scores 550+ and places 4th in a big hunt is better than a dog that scores 550+ and wins 1st in a local hunt. Learn something new everyday......

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by K. Singletary
So according to you guys a dog that scores 550+ and places 4th in a big hunt is better than a dog that scores 550+ and wins 1st in a local hunt. Learn something new everyday...... [/QUOTE I wouldn't say one is a BETTER dog than the other,just that it is HARDER to place when there are 20 cast WINNERS vying for the top placings,compared to a only a couple cast winners..There are many,many dogs winning casts and titles at local hunts everyday,but only a very few CONSISTENTLY show up in the bigger hunts,HAWK,STR.ACE,BUDDY,MANDY 2,to name a few. Top placings in bigger hunts are just one tool we can use to evaluate our dogs.If it not such a big difference, then why all the TOOTING when a Blk dog places high in a Big hunt?..jmo

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by K. Singletary
So according to you guys a dog that scores 550+ and places 4th in a big hunt is better than a dog that scores 550+ and wins 1st in a local hunt. Learn something new everyday...... [/QUOTE I wouldn't say one is a BETTER dog than the other,just that it is HARDER to place when there are 20 cast WINNERS vying for the top placings,compared to a only a couple cast winners..There are many,many dogs winning casts and titles at local hunts everyday,but only a very few CONSISTENTLY show up in the bigger hunts,HAWK,STR.ACE,BUDDY,MANDY 2,to name a few. Top placings in bigger hunts are just one tool we can use to evaluate our dogs.If it not such a big difference, then why all the TOOTING when a Blk dog places high in a Big hunt?..jmo

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This is my opinion on it so take it for what it is... If I'm interested in Smokey 7 then instead of lookin through all his accomplishment and wins I think that maybe I need to pick up the phone and set up a hunt with him and then make my own opinion about whether or not he is going to help me with what I like to hunt. The hunts are not a bad thing but if I go to a local club and I win my cast in registered and they only have 4 dogs that doesn't mean I don't have a coondog that just means attendance is down.

I think people look at these hunts and measure off of them when they should measure the dog and not the wins. I've seen post on here where people say money is tight and others agree but then you see these same people talking about the ones that do go to the big hunts are the only ones who have a dog to compete with. It does make you feel better when a black dog wins a big hunt but you also have to realize that the dogs that win these big hunts are put in spots with coons. It's not what you hunt it's who you know with the best spots.

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Can you name 1 that is hauled to most of the big hunts that never places? I'm not saying it is not a good thing to place in a big hunt. It gets your picture on the web site, the magazines, and the breed album. All in all it is a positive for the breed. Some just get carried away with the meaning of it.

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This is my opinion on it so take it for what it is... If I'm interested in Smokey 7 then instead of lookin through all his accomplishment and wins I think that maybe I need to pick up the phone and set up a hunt with him and then make my own opinion about whether or not he is going to help me with what I like to hunt. The hunts are not a bad thing but if I go to a local club and I win my cast in registered and they only have 4 dogs that doesn't mean I don't have a coondog that just means attendance is down.

I think people look at these hunts and measure off of them when they should measure the dog and not the wins. I've seen post on here where people say money is tight and others agree but then you see these same people talking about the ones that do go to the big hunts are the only ones who have a dog to compete with. It does make you feel better when a black dog wins a big hunt but you also have to realize that the dogs that win these big hunts are put in spots with coons. It's not what you hunt it's who you know with the best spots.

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Can we all agree that consistency is the key? Big or small hunts. A cw is a cw. When I see dogs that win consistently, that's what catches my eye. Winning several casts in a row is more impressive to me than winning a big hunt with a one night big score of 1500+ or so.

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Can we all agree that consistency is the key? Big or small hunts. A cw is a cw. When I see dogs that win consistently, that's what catches my eye. Winning several casts in a row is more impressive to me than winning a big hunt with a one night big score of 1500+ or so.

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Originally posted by meadowbf
Myself,I agree with you 100% Blackdawg,,and to take it a little further.One that is CONSISTENT at the big hunts,where the odds are tougher is also impressive.

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Sorry I think I caused that I apologize!! It would be very nice to have that at our finger tips!!

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Sorry I think I caused that I apologize!! It would be very nice to have that at our finger tips!!

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Well tell me your honest opinion on this I nitech a female I think the first second place win there was 6 reg. 9 total, the next second place win we had 28 dogs I scored 800 plus no minus or circle and the first place I put on her we had 14 to 18 dogs I won my cast with 400 plus no minus or circle. I can't remember what my score was from the first hunt was it was last year but is this female worth breeding to or no because she hadn't placed in a big hunt? The 800 plus was at our walker sectional and I got beat by twelve and a half

This female isn't a world beater but she sure tickles me when I cut her loose.

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Well tell me your honest opinion on this I nitech a female I think the first second place win there was 6 reg. 9 total, the next second place win we had 28 dogs I scored 800 plus no minus or circle and the first place I put on her we had 14 to 18 dogs I won my cast with 400 plus no minus or circle. I can't remember what my score was from the first hunt was it was last year but is this female worth breeding to or no because she hadn't placed in a big hunt? The 800 plus was at our walker sectional and I got beat by twelve and a half

This female isn't a world beater but she sure tickles me when I cut her loose.

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I hope you find what your looking for. Good luck buddy.
And sounds like yours held its own and that all we as a breed can do.

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I hope you find what your looking for. Good luck buddy.
And sounds like yours held its own and that all we as a breed can do.

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