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The UMWA Has Ratified It's Contract With PATRIOT COAL. 13 UNIONS Voted And It Passed By 85%. It's Good To See That Cooler Heads Prevailed, And Workers, Retirees, And Widows Will Keep Their Benefits. GOOD MOVE!!!!!!

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was at sharps today a guy we know by he said same thing you posted they got thier benifits back we was putting hay up on another buddys farm he said that they cut alot off thier benifits down so i really don't know at this point 2 differnt guys 2 differnt storys

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Results and explanations of The New Agreement Reached By The UMWA and Patriot Coal Can Be Read On wvmetronews.com. Then you wont have to rely on word of mouth!!

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Originally posted by brushrunretiree
Results and explanations of The New Agreement Reached By The UMWA and Patriot Coal Can Be Read On wvmetronews.com. Then you wont have to rely on word of mouth!!

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JUST READ WHERE BANKRUPTCY JUDGE APPROVED THE CONTRACT APPROVED BY THE UMWA AND PATRIOT COAL!!! THAT'S GOOD NEWS FOR ALL INVOLVED. RESTORES PENSION AND INSURANCE TO RETIREES AND WIDOWS.. GOOD JOB BY ALL!!!

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Originally posted by hillbilly56
im just agreeing with brush regan fired all the airplane pilots and that started the downfall of the unions

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i see your point about shutting down the country but i don't agree i think thats exactly what should have been done thats the trouble with the gov they get involed in something they have no bussiness in and its only getting worse if we don't wake up the gov is going to be in control of all our lives jmo not trying to start a fued

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So that makes it okay to shut down the entire country? That is my point, it does not....shutting down the food supply to stores, making it so that the country is shut down because fuel cannot be bought.....as a bargaining tool? And then we as consumers end up getting screwed twice....we get shut down, and then the prices go up because demand has been heightened.

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Also, I do not look at is as a fued, just a discussion of opposing ideas.

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Originally posted by T.Beyer
He fired the air traffic controllers. They posed a risk to the public by refusing to do their jobs and put our country at a standstill.


Seriously, I understand bargaining in good faith...and Unions and Owners should do this, however, when a Union decides it needs to shut down America to get a pay raise or get a guarantee for insurance, it is time for someone to look for another job...talk about selfish....

I work for the Post Office, I know full well what my brothers and sisters did in the early 70's to get a union started and got us a living wage. I am thankful for it. However, that being said, they put America at risk...People did not receive retirement checks when Postal Workers walked off the job, I am certain bills were not paid because of a delay in the mail. Probably tons of other things that I am not thinking of at the moment....they had to bring in the National Guard to sort and deliver mail. Sadly they could not do it.

I believe it was because of this fact that Ronald Reagan told the air traffic controllers to come back to work or look for another means to support your family.

Anytime you think it is okay to shut down America for the sake of a few people (look at the big picture, small fish in a big ocean) you have failed, and we ought all look in the mirror at that point cause the problem will be staring back at us.

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Originally posted by trackdriver
Great post but shouldn't owners pay a livable wages from the start along with insurance,problem solved.Great example of gov.stepping in and tell a private business what it's gonna do for america's sake.

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i talk to a guy that is getting his retirement and penison from patorit he said the union put they screws to them they only get benfits till sept so maybe patroit had it publised to make it look like they took care of thir retirees also talk with a buddy of mine at a horse pull last nite he said consol is going to sell thier mines if they can't sell them going to shut them down how true it is i can't say just have to wait and see im going to call another buddy of mine find out what he has to say on this subject

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with my buddy that works for consol just got off the phone sais he heard same thing the reties won't get thier benifits after sept he also said a romor is floating around that they are trying to sell out for 2.8 billon dollars if they don't sell they probly will close them down he said they want to lean more into the gas ind he said they make more money in gas ind than coal he says they own domain gas don't know that to be true

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