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Originally posted by Billy Beckham
I was thinking the same thing when I read that. Twice I have been on casts that coons went into the beans and never came out.

There is a reason God gave us tight mouthed track dogs.

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Originally posted by Nat Thomas
If you have a track dog they won't be in the beans all night.... Most coon will be sitting up on the edge of the field laughing at the dogs wayyyy before the dogs ever figure out the track. I thought for a long time they didn't come out of the beans to until I got a real track dog!!!

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Originally posted by patches9452
most of the time thats a quitter that treed another on the edge.... can make a dog look good but lets be realistic... most of the time he couldnt hang and quit and took the easy way out.... i dont want a quitter

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Actually Jim that started on another post by some comments Al and another smart $$ on here said directly toward me. Yet, they are the first ones to cry foul when done back to them. Hypocrisy....I'm sure the whine all night on a cast too!

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Originally posted by Nat Thomas
Wrong.

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Originally posted by patches9452
most of the time thats a quitter that treed another on the edge.... can make a dog look good but lets be realistic... most of the time he couldnt hang and quit and took the easy way out.... i dont want a quitter

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Quitter? How about brains? Only the foolish dog runs out in the 2 or 3 hundred acre beans! That's a fact jack the smart ones fly down the edges of fields but then again I hunt tree minded dogs NOT track running fools.

I'm glad some like to listen to a hour or 2 race so they call it. The coon is laughing the whole time. Sure you may wear the coon out eventually and think your dog did an outstanding job hours later.

I guess I agree with Jim totally on this one. Most just haven't the slightest clue as to what a dog should do.

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it would have been a good post except the 13 mile part. NO COON IS GONNA RUN 13 MILES. I have witnedded mine run one for four miles and get hooked with A COON which I douht was the same one he struck.

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Originally posted by Tom Jones
it would have been a good post except the 13 mile part. NO COON IS GONNA RUN 13 MILES. I have witnedded mine run one for four miles and get hooked with A COON which I douht was the same one he struck.

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Quitter? How about brains? Only the foolish dog runs out in the 2 or 3 hundred acre beans! That's a fact jack the smart ones fly down the edges of fields but then again I hunt tree minded dogs NOT track running fools.

I'm glad some like to listen to a hour or 2 race so they call it. The coon is laughing the whole time. Sure you may wear the coon out eventually and think your dog did an outstanding job hours later.

I guess I agree with Jim totally on this one. Most just haven't the slightest clue as to what a dog should do.

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Originally posted by Tom Jones
it would have been a good post except the 13 mile part. NO COON IS GONNA RUN 13 MILES. I have witnedded mine run one for four miles and get hooked with A COON which I douht was the same one he struck.

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Quitter? How about brains? Only the foolish dog runs out in the 2 or 3 hundred acre beans! That's a fact jack the smart ones fly down the edges of fields but then again I hunt tree minded dogs NOT track running fools.

I'm glad some like to listen to a hour or 2 race so they call it. The coon is laughing the whole time. Sure you may wear the coon out eventually and think your dog did an outstanding job hours later.

I guess I agree with Jim totally on this one. Most just haven't the slightest clue as to what a dog should do.

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lmao!!!

coon don't run fast enough to stay ahead of dogs for 13 miles!!! even a bluetick..lol

i'm betting ran gray fox,coyote,or deer. fell off on a hot track.

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Originally posted by patches9452
if they run one 2 hours i would hope they covered close to that much ground anyway... i have ran them for 5 before in the green trees down here... never thought to check and see how far they traveled on the garmin tho but most of the time they never got over a half mile from us

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lmao!!!

coon don't run fast enough to stay ahead of dogs for 13 miles!!! even a bluetick..lol

i'm betting ran gray fox,coyote,or deer. fell off on a hot track.

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well we have some more intertanment, of who know what.

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I was sitting here wondering when this thread would get all fired up, doesn't take long. lol

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I was sitting here wondering when this thread would get all fired up, doesn't take long. lol

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The distance the dog runs on the gps, is not the the distance the coon runs.

You can tell when a dog overruns or looses track on a gps when it starts running circles!

One day I like to put a gps collar on a coon and a dog then I'll tell you how far the race was. LOL

Some of the stuff I hunt is so thick you can be standing directly on top of your dog and not see him, even with a flashing blue tracker collor light and a blue marshall lighted one too.

Long races are the norm in this stuff, add water to thick briars and youll see who has a coon dog.

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Sure hope them dudes don't find their way into Illinois and breed with our coon population. If you watch them stats on the garmin, 3 miles an hour will tree any coon sooner than you caught that one running at over 6 miles an hour. LOL

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Originally posted by JiM
It's more like they have no idea what the dog IS doing. We are now seeing the dumming down of your basic coonhunter today with the Garmin in such common use. Dog work is now a set of stats, how far, how long, average speed........not a clue what that dog is actually doing out there but total control over where they are, where they been, average speed, etc. It's what they are doing that matters.

Nat and Patches can argue about HOW they should do it, that just different strokes for different folks, but at least they KNOW what the dang dog is doing out there. A 13 mile coon chase? Sorry, but somebody don't know what their dog is chasing.

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Originally posted by Tom Jones
I dont know what your saying, are you saying if a dog runs two hourse it should be 13 miles away? lol (i dont think so sorry), then you say you ran them for 5 hrs and never got more then a 1/2 mile (i would whip that sorry track dog and send his a$$ on to find one he could tree or sell him to someone up north) . MAY HAVE TOTALLY MISUNDERSTOOD YOUR POINT, been known to do that lol if so sorry

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Point 1. A dog running a dodging coon probably covers 3 times the distance that the coon does. That puts the coon traveling a little more than 4 which is about one trip around a section.
Point 2. The so called smart dog running around the edge to get treed is going to take a while. A 100,000 acres to go around would take more than 2 hours and there's no coons sitting up.
Point 3. I been doing this 47 years and I kinda know what I'm talking about. If you doubt it, load your dogs and come for a hunt.

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13 miles is a very long ways for a coon to run, not saying it couldnt happen but maybe there were several different tracks the dogs were running? Or they went over a big section of the track several times before lining it out?

I went out last night and my female got struck in about 200 yards and then continued to work it .25 mile north then cut it .25 mile west through a field then back south on the edge of the field. After that she took it back in the timber and work it another .5 mile west before getting treed with the coon. In total she ran over 3.5 miles on the garmin and it took about 45 min for her to get treed.

She swam a small river then moved the last .25 mile of the track in about 3 minutes and got treed.

It was 20 degrees out and frozen ice covering the ground. Now that was a cold track!

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I don't have the thickets like you do you'll never have a coon to run like that hear

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