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LOL LOL This is a real interesting post and funny LOL LOL !!

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This post is interesting.

Tying at the tree certainly won't hurt a hound.

I do agree with Danny. I allow my young dogs to get all the tree activity they want. I don't allow a bully attitude. They better keep their mind on whats up the tree and not what's around it.

The main reason I tie one is to prevent my hound from running one that jumps out or when hunting with a hound that works the tree hard. If a hound is belly up, no jumping or other activity I don't tie them. When a coon jumps out it normally goes to a hole in the ground, a den tree, big water, a hyway or a farmers barn. Running a jump out will cause a hound to have big ears at times.

If I do tie one at the tree, I prefer to tie one back a few feet from the tree. If shooting a coon out, I like the coon to drop between the dog and the tree. Eliminate the chance of a coon falling on a dog.

My take on tieing one because there milling off the tree. Tieing one won't make a hound be a treedog. Letting a hound mill the tree may allow it to figure the program out and become a treedog, normally it doesn't. If I tie a hound that is milling they get tied back and never allowed to chew on the coon. I have limited tolerance for a pup or anything that mills the tree. Never trained one to be a top hound that wasn't a treedog early in training. However, they never had a huge chance to make a treedog.

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Originally posted by Scott Jenkins
I have never owned a dog that had to be tied at tree if a young hound showed interest of leaving tree after treed he was sent to belong to someone else ! I suppose there are some bloodlines of bluedogs or some crosse that this must be done to get them to stay treed but WOW guys why would you want a hound of such low interest in staying put. I know this a RULE in night hunts but if you are feeding a dog that must be tied back and thats the only way he would stayed treed its time you looked else where for a real coon dog . What some of you guys will put up with in a hound and then say you have a stud dog a coon dog <<< ROFLMAO LOL LOL LOL LOL ! WAM BAM !! WOW TREE OLE CHARLIE NO TIE BACK NEEDED ,NO LEAVING TREE, NO MILLING AROUND , NO GETTING OFF TREE TO SMELL THE ENDS OF FEMALES READ THIS AND PAY ATTENTION .. << >>> NO TIE AT TREE NEEDED A REAL HUNTING DOG, COON DOG ! I hope you guys get a better dog in 2013 try just a little harder !!

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What if the coon jumps before you get there? I thought a real coon dog has the intelligence to handle jump outs! I jump them out on purpose when I can! Coons jump out a good bit down in Florida, why, I don't know? If a coon jumps out, my dog needs to be smart enough to find it and tree it. far as going in hole or road depends on how big your woods are!

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It's good to see most people on here are saying it's OK to disagree without being disagreeable, I did say most. The first thought I have on this subject is natural ability. Number one, i do not want my dog staying treed if he or she does not want to be there. Tyeing a dog is probably only about 5% of the hunt that we can control so the other 95% belongs to the dog. I'm not saying I don't tie my dog when needed, but not to make the dog stay. Natural ability is first and foremost when i consider keeping a dog, so I want to know very early if he or she possesses what I want so that prompts me to respectfully disagree with tyeing a young dog at the tree. If my dog wants to leave, I let it go, it just won't get any reward or praise. Patients is virtue! There are many reasons to tie a dog, such as, rough dog in crowd, rough dog over dead coon, tree jacking etc... I'm up in the air over tyeing one back while shooting the coon. I feel a tied dog stands as good a chance of getting hit by a coon as not, at least one has a chance of getting out of the way if it's not restricted, I could be wrong, JMO. Great post and some great responses. Again this is my opinion and that and $5.00 might get you a cup of coffee.

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Originally posted by Danny Glista
Good post but on this one but I'm going to have to disagree with tying a hound at every tree from the start. I have found myself that in order to control what's happening at the tree before you get there you have to rely onhearing alone. Then you get to the tree to see what's really going on. If I turn two hounds loose myself and they get treed, I get to them, watch and observe how they tree together. It's the only way to find out if corrections have to be made. Now and this is just my opinion, if you and friends have 4 young male hounds, first time being hunted together and you cut them in the timber and they get treed together fairly quick. On the way in you hear a bunch of blowin going on in there, are you just going to go in there and leash them all back and shine the tree or go in and adjust them accordingly and make corrections. If you want to make a young hound jealous, keep tying him back at the tree with company and my thinking is you'll get there soon. I've seen it happen. As far as the thiery of tying a hound to the other side of the tree so he doesn't get jealous or possesive of the spot where the coon has climbed. If ya have or start to see this problem, the best way to fix it is to go into that tree and claim that darn spot yourself and let your hound keep treeing. Place your back against that tree and everytime he comes and tries to crowd you, take a backhand and put it up beside his or her head and you'll fix the problem. That's the only way I found that works and the younger you start the better. Can't do that with them being tied up on every tree. Good post but I think it has to go both ways when hunting one alone and you certainly can't fix problems if ya tie all hounds at the tree as soon as you get there. They have to learn to tree together under control by the owners unless you want to light break everyone which I don't believe in!! JMO!!

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