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l.lyle
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quote:
Originally posted by CWT
well in my area most private land you hunt you either shoot em all out or dont come back. We have so many coons we couldnt put a dent in the population if we tried.

I got to kill them all too. Around here they sell for the meat. I would get $5 for almost grown coon,$10 for grown coon and $15 for real big ones. Then a fellow that had a hunting club/ social club/ dinner club / superbowl dinner club started offering me $10 for every one across the board no matter how many. He comes gets them and leaves the money in a box beside where I leave the coons out for him. He hasn't let me down yet so he is now my only client. LOL Needless to say big or little don't mean near what they did one time.

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quote:
Originally posted by GA DAWG
I've hunted one. Turned me against them. One team said they shot 7 coon lol. Which it was their hunting spot..So it really didn't matter. I like the idea of drawing later to see if big coon or little coon wins. At our club. It would draw lots of folks you never see at any hunts or buddy hunts. Might not hurt to have a couple a yr.

7 coon is tame ive seen 25 in a night brought to one of these by one guy. Pretty sure his dog cant even tree a coon LOL

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Coon are gonna get killed whether there is a contest or not. There are alot of meat/hide hunters and trappers. So a club may as well make money at it.

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dm1
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License?

"He comes gets them and leaves the money in a box beside where I leave the coons out for him".

How much did you have to pay for your Commercial Fur Harvesters License?

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Re: License?

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"He comes gets them and leaves the money in a box beside where I leave the coons out for him".

How much did you have to pay for your Commercial Fur Harvesters License?

I harvest coons that would otherwise be trapped. I don't know what he does with the fur and I don't care but probably nothing. I don't harvest fur. You some kind of government regulator or something? It might cover gas or cigarrettes but not both LOL. It doen't even start to cover dogfeed.

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Re: Re: License?

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Originally posted by l.lyle
I harvest coons that would otherwise be trapped. I don't know what he does with the fur and I don't care but probably nothing. I don't harvest fur. You some kind of government regulator or something? It might cover gas or cigarrettes but not both LOL. It doen't even start to cover dogfeed.

THEY gona get u lyle lol

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chuck barham
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I went to my first one this year and it was alot of fun. The way they did it was they went out in two man teams, one was a local hunter (Guide) and they got to pick one from alittle farther away to make up a team. Each team got to weigh in two coons and after all coons were weighed in, a kid pulled a number from a hat, the team that had a coon wieghing the closest to that number won. There is no way to know what size coon you are going to need to win untill after they are all weighed in. The team got to split the entire pot, I seen people that I had not seen in years and had a good time.

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Re: Re: License?

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Originally posted by l.lyle
I harvest coons that would otherwise be trapped. I don't know what he does with the fur and I don't care but probably nothing. I don't harvest fur. You some kind of government regulator or something? It might cover gas or cigarrettes but not both LOL. It doen't even start to cover dogfeed.

A Commercial Fur Harvesters License is required to sale a furbearing animal, and anyone who purchases a furbearing animal is required to have a Fur Buyer�s License. This applies to the whole animals as well as raw or green furs. I am not a government regular, but I am a law enforcement officer.

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02-08-2012 01:15 PM

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I don't think its a good idea..If you have a low coon population whats the sense..It only gives some nitwit a reason to go out and slaughter coon..Remember once you kill them they don't run again !

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Robert Johnson
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disagree..how many coons must be shot to find that big one? Don't know the coon population where you are, but here, a club sponsored slaughter of sorts would put the coon hunts out of business.

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WHERE DO YOU NEED A COMMERCIAL FURBEARER LICENSE? NOT HERE!!!

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Re: Re: Re: License?

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Originally posted by dm1
A Commercial Fur Harvesters License is required to sale a furbearing animal, and anyone who purchases a furbearing animal is required to have a Fur Buyer�s License. This applies to the whole animals as well as raw or green furs. I am not a government regular, but I am a law enforcement officer.

HUH, Only a hunting lic is required in indiana, illinois michigan an a whole lot of other states that I have harvested and sold furbearing animals for the past 45 years. guess I been breaking the law a long time and thousands of times.

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dm1
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quote:
Originally posted by COYOTEHOUND
WHERE DO YOU NEED A COMMERCIAL FURBEARER LICENSE? NOT HERE!!!

The state in which l.lyle resides� South Carolina

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We have one once in a while here in Tioga Pa. & it is always a blast (:

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l.lyle
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Re: Re: Re: License?

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Originally posted by dm1
A Commercial Fur Harvesters License is required to sale a furbearing animal, and anyone who purchases a furbearing animal is required to have a Fur Buyer�s License. This applies to the whole animals as well as raw or green furs. I am not a government regular, but I am a law enforcement officer.

Number 1, if you are a law enforcement officer then you are a government Regulator. There is no lie big enough to cover that one up. 2) The furbearers commercial license was designed to: A) keep track of animals killed and shipped out of State or B) to keep up with pennies of tax so you can get your check.? Choose A or B. 3) I gave away all coons killed for 30 years , but a couple years ago I stopped by a friend's house at 1 AM to give a coon to him but he was visiting up north and his nephew from up north was house keeping and stoned. I thought I was going to either be dead or have to whoopass, giving a coon away. I asked myself , how will this read in the county paper ? me being shot dead at 1 AM in that neighborhood? I bet some will say I was trading coon for ----y . So , NOW HEAR ME LOUD AND CLEAR LAW REGULATER . if you all were out there doing your job, instead of worrying about every nickel of tax money for your next check maybe the criminals would be interogated and coon hunters would be left alone. Thanks for the heads up, I shall surely declare and pay the income on $150 this year. I will also go back for nine years and claim donation of coons for those years . ( You cannot have it "both ways" government man). My taxes will undoubtedly benefit me this time but less will be available for you. Make yourself happy. And fellows that are on this forum , you can be assured that it is monitored by "Big Brother" regulators , Obamma has created jobs for so many they have nothing better to do than surf the Web trading dimes for nickels. Signed " unknown criminal me." I still think that is your stupid interpretation of the law and if you want to know for sure then charge me and lets go to court. The fur bearers License has much to do with "Interstate Commerce Clause" Of the US constitution. That clause has been bastardized more than most with iterpretation of LAW. So you might have a chance with me in court. Did you realize that? or did you just want to use the furbearers license thing to further your "feeling" that coons should not be shot? Maybe the Good Conservationist, YOU , would prefer they are shot and tossed in the bushes to feed the buzzards and comply with your ill conceived notion of Law.. Heck, Buzzards have to make a living too.

Review your understanding of the law before you get on your High Horse Go Cart with a Blue light. LOL I said from the start . The coons are killed for meat . Are you willing to place your hand on the Bible and Swear to God that what you ascribe to has more to do with Furbearers License ? or to USDA meat Inspection progarm, just to give you a hint before my laywer makes somebody be a Fool.

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l.lyle
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Re: Re: Re: License?

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Originally posted by dm1
A Commercial Fur Harvesters License is required to sale a furbearing animal, and anyone who purchases a furbearing animal is required to have a Fur Buyer�s License. This applies to the whole animals as well as raw or green furs. I am not a government regular, but I am a law enforcement officer.

I SALE possums for 50 cent if it makes you feel better, bean counter. They are Fur Bearers too last time I reconed about it and I reconed it did not have a thing to do with me. Anyway, I hope ya'll asholes chunk me and all the fellers dat gave me 50 cent for a possum in the same jail cell Because I am quite certain they ain't got a Fur Buyers license neither. We can all sit around and eat the sherriffs good hash for breakfast and the rest of two meals a day.( I never been there past breakfast) and den we gets to knowing we did not have to go out and earn the 50 cent to buy a dangum possum with , skin it and cook it. We just have to lay up and eat good Hash Breakfast in bed, so to speack. Might even write a song or two about Man's inhumanity to coons and possums. We might even reach the next level hoping to catch up with your Understanding. Might take six months sentence or a year . What you recon? I guess you recon we could never reach your level of Understanding if we were sentenced to LIFE ,. Huuh? ,Hottsie totsie.

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dm1
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There is no need to get distressed about this... I intended no disrespect, and I have not been unkind to you in anyway. I simply asked about the cost of your license as I know they exist, but have not had the need to purchase one. I am proud to be in law enforcement and consider myself a public servant.

After a little research I found that the cost is only $25, and there is an annual requirement to report the harvest. The actual SC code of laws are 50-11-2420, 50-11-2470, and 50-11-2480.

You will have to decide for yourself if you will purchase a Fur Harvesters License. We all have to make decisions and are held accountable for our own actions or inactions. As for your other assertions, I am glad you have the right to express them and hope that you feel better having done so.

I am a coon hunter and enjoy the time spent with hounds and friends, and wish you the best.

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Back onto the Big coon contest. I strongly feel coon will be killed no matter what. So why not hold them. The increasing fur prices have brought hunter and trappers out of the wood pile. And Northern NY coon have been the highest this year than many past years.

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I SEE NO REASON NOT TO HAVE THEM, STATE WILDLIFE AGENCIES MANDATE BAG LIMITS FOR A REASON!!! HERE IN TN WE CAN KILL 2 PER PERSON PER NIGHT, AS LONG AS EVERYONE ABIDES BY THAT RULE THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY SHORTAGE OF COON!!! I'LL ADMIT CERTAIN SPOTS CAN GET OVER HUNTED, BUT SOME AREAS WON'T EVEN GET TOUCHED DUE TO THINGS LIKE HOUSES, ROADS, ETC. AND COONS FROM THESE AREAS WILL DISPERSE INTO AREAS THAT HAVE GOOD HABITAT!!! AS LONG AS WE USE THE BAG LIMITS SET BY OUR STATE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO RUN OUT OF COONS!!! I KNOW THAT'S A MOUTHFUL, BUT OVER POPULATION CAUSES THINGS LIKE DISTEMPER AND RABIES!!! KILLING ANIMALS TO MAKE ROOM FOR NEWER GENERATIONS AND FOR OVERFLOW FROM OTHER AREAS IS A GOOD THING!!! WE NEED TO KILL SOME TO MAINTAIN A HEALTHY POPULATION!!! TAKE FOR INSTANCE, OUR DEER POPULATION IN TN!!! OUR REGULATIONS ALLOW FOR 3 BUCKS TO BE HARVESTED PER HUNTER PER YEAR, WHILE ALSO ALLOWING HUNTERS TO HARVEST 3 DOES PER DAY!!! YES THAT'S ALOT OF DEER AND NOONE REALLY ACCOMPLISHES IT, BUT FOR YOUNG BUCKS TO HAVE THE AGE AND NUTRITION TO DEVELOP, MORE DOES NEED TO BE REMOVED FROM THE HERD!!! THE STATE ISN'T GOING TO PERMIT THE DECIMATION OF A GAME SPECIES, WITHOUT GAME TO HUNT (AND LICENCES TO BUY) THEY WOULD HAVE NO REVENUE TO OPERATE, BUT TO MANY DEER RESULT IN AN UNHEALTHY POPULATION, ALONG WITH ISSUES LIKE VEHICLE COLLISIONS AND CROP DAMAGE!!! AS LONG AS EVERYONE STICKS TO THE BAG LIMIT, MEAT HUNTS SHOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM, PEOPLE WHO IGNORE BAG LIMITS ARE GOING TO DO SO WITH OR WITHOUT MEAT HUNTS!!!

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WOW...I would not know what to do with a bag limit. None here.

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Re: Poundage hunts

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Originally posted by 1stMac
They have a poundage hunt here and there is no telling how many coon get killed because of it. Between the entry fees and calcuttas the pot will be between 4 and 5 hundred dollars. They changed it towhere you can only bring 2 coon in and the winning weight is drawn after the deadline.This helped the killing some but now they have a seperate pot for the biggest coon so here goes the slaughter again.

I recon some regulator on here will be checking into illegal gambling. LOL

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I put on one of the biggest ones in Indiana we do it buy length for the past three years we have drawed a crowd of about 250 people have a good dinner door prizes and raffles lots of fun and good people

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Originally posted by Hey Preacher!!!
I SEE NO REASON NOT TO HAVE THEM, STATE WILDLIFE AGENCIES MANDATE BAG LIMITS FOR A REASON!!! HERE IN TN WE CAN KILL 2 PER PERSON PER NIGHT, AS LONG AS EVERYONE ABIDES BY THAT RULE THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY SHORTAGE OF COON!!! I'LL ADMIT CERTAIN SPOTS CAN GET OVER HUNTED, BUT SOME AREAS WON'T EVEN GET TOUCHED DUE TO THINGS LIKE HOUSES, ROADS, ETC. AND COONS FROM THESE AREAS WILL DISPERSE INTO AREAS THAT HAVE GOOD HABITAT!!! AS LONG AS WE USE THE BAG LIMITS SET BY OUR STATE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO RUN OUT OF COONS!!! I KNOW THAT'S A MOUTHFUL, BUT OVER POPULATION CAUSES THINGS LIKE DISTEMPER AND RABIES!!! KILLING ANIMALS TO MAKE ROOM FOR NEWER GENERATIONS AND FOR OVERFLOW FROM OTHER AREAS IS A GOOD THING!!! WE NEED TO KILL SOME TO MAINTAIN A HEALTHY POPULATION!!! TAKE FOR INSTANCE, OUR DEER POPULATION IN TN!!! OUR REGULATIONS ALLOW FOR 3 BUCKS TO BE HARVESTED PER HUNTER PER YEAR, WHILE ALSO ALLOWING HUNTERS TO HARVEST 3 DOES PER DAY!!! YES THAT'S ALOT OF DEER AND NOONE REALLY ACCOMPLISHES IT, BUT FOR YOUNG BUCKS TO HAVE THE AGE AND NUTRITION TO DEVELOP, MORE DOES NEED TO BE REMOVED FROM THE HERD!!! THE STATE ISN'T GOING TO PERMIT THE DECIMATION OF A GAME SPECIES, WITHOUT GAME TO HUNT (AND LICENCES TO BUY) THEY WOULD HAVE NO REVENUE TO OPERATE, BUT TO MANY DEER RESULT IN AN UNHEALTHY POPULATION, ALONG WITH ISSUES LIKE VEHICLE COLLISIONS AND CROP DAMAGE!!! AS LONG AS EVERYONE STICKS TO THE BAG LIMIT, MEAT HUNTS SHOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM, PEOPLE WHO IGNORE BAG LIMITS ARE GOING TO DO SO WITH OR WITHOUT MEAT HUNTS!!!

I think most in SC would be ashamed to have them. A 12 pounder might win it. LOL

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quote:
Originally posted by Hey Preacher!!!
I SEE NO REASON NOT TO HAVE THEM, STATE WILDLIFE AGENCIES MANDATE BAG LIMITS FOR A REASON!!! HERE IN TN WE CAN KILL 2 PER PERSON PER NIGHT, AS LONG AS EVERYONE ABIDES BY THAT RULE THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY SHORTAGE OF COON!!! I'LL ADMIT CERTAIN SPOTS CAN GET OVER HUNTED, BUT SOME AREAS WON'T EVEN GET TOUCHED DUE TO THINGS LIKE HOUSES, ROADS, ETC. AND COONS FROM THESE AREAS WILL DISPERSE INTO AREAS THAT HAVE GOOD HABITAT!!! AS LONG AS WE USE THE BAG LIMITS SET BY OUR STATE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO RUN OUT OF COONS!!! I KNOW THAT'S A MOUTHFUL, BUT OVER POPULATION CAUSES THINGS LIKE DISTEMPER AND RABIES!!! KILLING ANIMALS TO MAKE ROOM FOR NEWER GENERATIONS AND FOR OVERFLOW FROM OTHER AREAS IS A GOOD THING!!! WE NEED TO KILL SOME TO MAINTAIN A HEALTHY POPULATION!!! TAKE FOR INSTANCE, OUR DEER POPULATION IN TN!!! OUR REGULATIONS ALLOW FOR 3 BUCKS TO BE HARVESTED PER HUNTER PER YEAR, WHILE ALSO ALLOWING HUNTERS TO HARVEST 3 DOES PER DAY!!! YES THAT'S ALOT OF DEER AND NOONE REALLY ACCOMPLISHES IT, BUT FOR YOUNG BUCKS TO HAVE THE AGE AND NUTRITION TO DEVELOP, MORE DOES NEED TO BE REMOVED FROM THE HERD!!! THE STATE ISN'T GOING TO PERMIT THE DECIMATION OF A GAME SPECIES, WITHOUT GAME TO HUNT (AND LICENCES TO BUY) THEY WOULD HAVE NO REVENUE TO OPERATE, BUT TO MANY DEER RESULT IN AN UNHEALTHY POPULATION, ALONG WITH ISSUES LIKE VEHICLE COLLISIONS AND CROP DAMAGE!!! AS LONG AS EVERYONE STICKS TO THE BAG LIMIT, MEAT HUNTS SHOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM, PEOPLE WHO IGNORE BAG LIMITS ARE GOING TO DO SO WITH OR WITHOUT MEAT HUNTS!!!

I can only imagine but I do not know for sure that after a history of Grand Nite Champions V a history of Nite Champions V a history of also rans that a Regulator may decide to place certain values (taxable) on them.

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