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I am with the guys that are willing to wait and "walk" the youngun...sooner or later they will learn to go on their own...i started my dog alone...he would range 50yds on a good nite at first...till he hit a track...he could take a track and tree the coon...every nite he goes farther and farther...15-20 mins now and he usually checks in..but he usually got one treed by then..

In the beginning i would walk and take a seat..then walk a little farther and have another seat...till he found a track...

The young ones i see that blow out of there are often times the ones full of tree imo..not always..but i dont mind having one not blow off the leash right away...they seem to have more sense and go about hunting better...the last 2 i ran both granded out easy and both started like that....the 2 youngs we got now started like that and will hold their own in a cast at a year old...

Different guys go about training different ways....i have patience and let a dog be a dog...wont keep a bad one...but i dont feel like i wasted time teaching mine to hunt...he is doing a nice job now and is a year old..i feel like my time was well spent...

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I am with the guys that are willing to wait and "walk" the youngun...sooner or later they will learn to go on their own...i started my dog alone...he would range 50yds on a good nite at first...till he hit a track...he could take a track and tree the coon...every nite he goes farther and farther...15-20 mins now and he usually checks in..but he usually got one treed by then..

In the beginning i would walk and take a seat..then walk a little farther and have another seat...till he found a track...

The young ones i see that blow out of there are often times the ones full of tree imo..not always..but i dont mind having one not blow off the leash right away...they seem to have more sense and go about hunting better...the last 2 i ran both granded out easy and both started like that....the 2 youngs we got now started like that and will hold their own in a cast at a year old...

Different guys go about training different ways....i have patience and let a dog be a dog...wont keep a bad one...but i dont feel like i wasted time teaching mine to hunt...he is doing a nice job now and is a year old..i feel like my time was well spent...

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l.lyle- She is almost 2. I sent her to a buddy when she was 8 months old, he trained her I got her back in Novemeber and I was hunting a dog for another guy so she sat in the pen up until January..I have honestly knocked out about 7 coons to her not sure exactly how many he put on her. I took her tonight and she stayed gone for about an hr by herself but she only hunted about 200 yds in all directions.. She's getting better I think I just need to keep her in the woods.. Thanks for all the advice!!

Mike Hill--Good advice Thanks!!

Mauser- I like them to throw dirt in your face when you cut them, but a lot of dogs like that will blow past coons, and I def. hate that!! She's getting better and better each time I take her

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Bill Mick taught me this one. Take her out walk her.Stop when she comes back walk her farther stop taek a seat on a old stump she comes back walk her further stop sooner or latter you willl hit a track have patience.encourage her when she come in come on girl find a coon you go beat on her or switching her may spook her patience and encouge ment see what happens

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jculler, thats the truth!! i considered carrying one of them hunting seats...never did..just stood and got tired legs or got a wet butt!

same goes with a young dog that picks up a bad track...some guys will pull the dog off...i usually let them boo-hoo and work it out a good hour or so....THOSE tracks IMO teach a dog a TON more than any hot track will teach them...i love seeing a youngun iron out an old cold feeder track...even if it does take them an hour...i know that is an important track and tree...calling them off them bad tracks aint good IMO...i will take a seat and wonder how anyone can enjoy running a dog that hunts like that all the time...i like to walk into trees with coon in them...not get a cold wet butt....but when i am pup training, i suck it up....patience and worn out boots is what makes a coon dog...get the dog to the woods as much as possible and make it worth while...i might only go a drop or 2..sometimes 3 or 4...but i am out 5-7 nites a week...


i feel strongly that all too many dogs are just never given the chance...sure..there are some great dogs out there..i rather spend a few months working with one then spending years searching for that magic dog that trains itself...different guys draw the line at certain places though....

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if she was mine and i wanted her to hunt by herself then i would hunt her by herself. i walk hunt and when i got a young dog ill walk them around creeks or any place i think there might be a coon around. if you keep hunting her by herself and if shes bred to be a coon dog she will start going out to hunt coons.

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Ive got a 16 month old female that acted the same way at a little over a year i grabbed a switch n when id cut her if she just went 50-75 yards out n came back id like make it crack on my chaps after a few nights she caught on now shes leaving good.....if she went out n actually hunted n came back id just let it slide

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I have fooled with a lot of pups over the last 20 years and i have said one of the biggest faults i have found is lack of drive/hunt when dogs are cast alone.

I don't waste much time with one that doesn't go with that be said i do take into consideration how old and how much its been fooled with. Sometimes the going hunting is one of the last things to fall in place, and then sometimes it never does.

In the last 20 years i have made two big mistakes with two pups i started. One was a young male that was out of a monster hunting dog, he would burn a cast up but he never would go hunting alone, I tried everything mentioned here and then some and he never would go, I should have moved him early but didn't. The other was a female i got from jerry Moll she didn't hunt to suit me so when she was about 14 -17 months old i sold her back to jerry she went on to be Molls Salt Creek Molly Ann did well in the hunts and the breeding pen.

I have found its awful hard to make one go if it doesn't have the desire to begin with.

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