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EFranks
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Lippers stylish Cade was a semen pup

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03-21-2012 02:22 PM

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Rip
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quote:
Originally posted by Hey Preacher!!!
ARE YOU SAYING THAT THE MALE PUPS ARE MORE INFLUENCED BY THE SIRE??? SO IT WOULD ALSO BE TRUE THAT FEMALE PUPS ARE INFLUENCED BY THE DAM!!! I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND, I THOUGHT EXACTLY HALF A PUPS GENES CAME FROM THE FATHER AND HALF CAME FROM THE MOTHER!!!

Well it's like this. A male is XY and a female is XX.

Females only have an X chromosome to give, males can give either the X if it's a female pup or a Y if it's a male pup.

This allows for maternal influence in males because for some things all they have is the leg from the mothers X chromosome (a Y is an X with a leg missing).

That's why hemophelia shows up in males, but not usually in females. Females carry the gene, but it is on the leg that is missing on the males. A female pup has the other leg from her daddy to compensate for the hemophelia. SHe doesn't show hemophelia, but about half her sons will have hemophelia because they don't have that extra leg to counterbalance the hemophelia.

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Majestic Tree H
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Nothing to do with the Differences of Semen ..

But I just got 2 different Sizes of the "Mavic" AI catheter !!!! These are amazing !! Once in position You Blow up a Balloon thats Built into the Wall of the Catheter that will Seal the Sperm in a small space right against the cervix .. You leave the Catheter in place for 20 min. (Typ. Breeding time)

Next to transcervical Insemination or Surgical ... This is the Best their is..

And you don't need the Cost of the Vet.

It is sold and developed by Minitube of America !!! about $35

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Jason Baldwin
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Originally posted by Hey Preacher!!!
I'M NOT SURE ABOUT SPERM, BUT I DO KNOW, IN HUMANS, A WOMAN'S CHANCES FOR HAVING A BABY WITH A BIRTH DEFECT INCREASES WITH HER AGE!!!

Daddy was 37 and moma was 31 when i was born. My wife says this is whats wrong with me. WHy my eyes are too small and too close together like a possum.

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Majestic Tree H
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Well I was Born in 1959 .... They had Overdosed my mother with Eather !!! It took an Hour and a 1/2 for them to Bring her out After I was Born !!

Thats why I now have 35 Hounds !!!!!! lol

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Charles Pullen
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Please list them

quote:
Originally posted by Charles Pullen
If you have a dog off of frozen semen that turn out to be as GREAT as the sire ........please list them thanks .

1). CADE

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Whistle Pig
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I thought this possum looked like some one that I had seen. lol

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furcatcher
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what if ?

I have a great granddaughter to Lipper, This hound will Hurt your ears and she is a super nice hound,Her grampa is Lippers Cade. Loud Loud Loud and smart.

Semen is semen if it wasnt the bitch wouldnt have pups!!!!

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Charles , look at Stender's Hawkey Abby and Rose ... both semen pups ... they were both top hounds and producers .

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Okie Dawg
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Re: Semen Dogs

quote:
Originally posted by Charles Pullen
Do you think the semen pups turn out to be as good as their sire ?

Depends on what the semen gets put in. The semen is only half of the mix you know. Then the pup would have to have the same chance as the sire to be hunted by good hands.
I would say the averages would say no. Just because of the percentages of top bitches bred but if you just counted top bitches bred. I would say the averages would have to be verry high.
To me semen is the only way to go if you have top hounds to breed. If nothing else but for saftey sake.

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bigdavidbeebe
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Originally posted by oklared
when you freeze semen it changes it. Look at Lipper semen, there is no dening that it has NOT produced what he did live. That is why Thorobred horses have to be cover and not frozen semen. Look at all the past studs at what they produced live, then look at their semen production, im not saying you cant get a good or even great hound but not nearly the numbers.

the best and the worse dogs i ever hunted with was from lipper,, the fact is he just had a ton of pups out there to many with really sorry females and even some of those made it,, i hear tell of a female that never barked at a coon till she was 3 and she went and became a nite ch,

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GA DAWG
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Wow. We've got Cade I guess. I wonder how many semen pups Rat has now. We all know how much his pups have won in the past. Well some of you might not but its a couple million! Anyhow. Since his death. I've really not heard anything outta any semen pups from him. Good news is. Im going with a semen pup tonight. He just might be the next big thing.

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barrelmaker
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Lipper semen

I don't see how Lipper semen could produce much worse than his live breedings, approximately 300 titled dogs out of 5000 pups!!

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Harry Plotter
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Re: Lipper semen

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Originally posted by barrelmaker
I don't see how Lipper semen could produce much worse than his live breedings, approximately 300 titled dogs out of 5000 pups!!

now you know its not fair to compare reproduction of lipper to current day studs or contemporaries. hunts were longer and there was more pleasure hunters and other stuff. stud dog owners and breeders are two different things. both are needed but shouldn't be confused. also semen pups should be better because i am sure that the females being bred aren't brood bitches. unless someone is a fool they aren't gonna spend good money to buy semen and put it in a worthless bitch. your average joe isn't buying semen nor can afford to. it's expensive to buy semen then ai a female and all the other tests and delivery. plus you can't get 1000$ out of plain jane bred to whatever. most people with that kind of money to buy a pup or dog are picky.

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03-22-2012 05:10 AM