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Majestic Tree H
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I got A Question ?? Would this Amp work on the Collar Side ???

•Frequency Range: 50-160 MHz

•Gain: 55dB

•P1dB: +27dBm

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•Noise Figure: 2.5dB

•DC Power: 12V

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This Amp above eats about 450 mil amps which is abit much to use the very small 12 volt Alk batterys they do have some as low as 45 mil amp. but with much lower db Gains .. I guess I'l exp,,,

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I would like to thank those of you who have helped myself an others understand what the real world limits of the Garmin system seem to be. I can see a pretty consistent pattern here and it looks like this system is falling short of what would satisfy most of us. I encourage everyone to post what they have experienced in their hunting terrain with their Garmin equipment. We can never have too much good, honest, factual information when trying to troubleshoot a problem and come up with the best solution. Thanks everyone, have a good season and see you at the hunts next year....Shane Maxey

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quote:
Originally posted by Hoosier Outlaw
I would like to thank those of you who have helped myself an others understand what the real world limits of the Garmin system seem to be. I can see a pretty consistent pattern here and it looks like this system is falling short of what would satisfy most of us. I encourage everyone to post what they have experienced in their hunting terrain with their Garmin equipment. We can never have too much good, honest, factual information when trying to troubleshoot a problem and come up with the best solution. Thanks everyone, have a good season and see you at the hunts next year....Shane Maxey

I would disagree that this small sampling you have taken here on this thread would indicate the system is falling short of what would satisfy most of us. Most users are already satisfied. They will always say they would like to get a mile or two more but to say most users are not satisfied would be a gross neglegent statement!
When you have the confidence in your new proprietary antenna to get an honest open review, pm me and I will give you my details. I assure you, I do not hide behind anything!
Good luck and I hope you have a hum dinger in the works. I have been wrong before, and I have openly admitted that right here on this forum, so there is no reason to believe that I would not extend you the same courtesy. I would smash this computer and donate every piece of hunting equipment I own before I would lie to you or anybody else!

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quote:
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I would disagree that this small sampling you have taken here on this thread would indicate the system is falling short of what would satisfy most of us. Most users are already satisfied. They will always say they would like to get a mile or two more but to say most users are not satisfied would be a gross neglegent statement!
When you have the confidence in your new proprietary antenna to get an honest open review, pm me and I will give you my details. I assure you, I do not hide behind anything!
Good luck and I hope you have a hum dinger in the works. I have been wrong before, and I have openly admitted that right here on this forum, so there is no reason to believe that I would not extend you the same courtesy. I would smash this computer and donate every piece of hunting equipment I own before I would lie to you or anybody else!

I still don't see you identifying yourself....
I still don't see you denying that you have ties to Garmin...
Even if you did deny your connection to Garmin....without you revealing your identity...how would people know if it were true?
Your right that this post has shown only a small sampling....but what you don't know is that I hunt all over this country in competition. I am at a hunt somewhere almost every weekend and I deal with hundreds of houndsmen on a regular basis....and we all know that we are by and large not satisfied with the range we are getting with our Garmin systems...especially after seeing all of Garmins advertisements that lead people to believe they get 7-9 miles of range out of the box. The only way they might come close to that as they come from the factory is line of sight from an airplane.
If it wasn't obvious to the readers of this post yet that you have some kind of affiliation with Garmin....your last post leaves little doubt about that.
If you talked to as many real houndsmen as I do and listened to their concerns instead of preaching the praises of the Garmin system and how you feel that it should more than meet their needs, well then you might understand that improvement is needed and wanted by most who have purchased the system.
I doubt that your true motives will ever be revealed unless and until you stop hiding behind an alias and making excuses for what the Garmin system lacks.
Just so everyone understands....I like my Garmin system and never turn my dogs loose without one. They are a great improvement over telemetry systems of the past....but just think, if we never tried to improve upon those antiquated systems...we wouldn't be using advanced systems like the Garmin today.
The Garmin system is great, but it can and will be improved. I am sure Garmin is trying to do that as we speak. But this is America and anyone can try and nobody should be discouraged from trying. I am spending my money and time on this project and only someone who has a connection to Garmin or another competitor would try as hard as you to discourage someone like me, while at the same time writing so many posts that try to make people feel like they should be happy with the system the way it is.
Be smart people....guys like this have an agenda....and they will try very hard to keep you from finding out what it really is. Don't fall for it!
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I never asked for all the details.... All I asked for was data that indicated what the performance was over another 3 element yagi.
How do you figure performance data is going to reveal to me anything that would allow me to steal your "proprietary information or materials"? How can you even relate the two?
Where did I say how little you or others know about Garmins???
You keep putting words in my mouth regarding these posts that I have never said. Why do you keep doing that? Why do you keep saying that I have said something which I havent?
Who did I tell that the garmin range was good enough to just deal with it? Are you reading the same posts that I have made?
I have not denounced your antenna nor did I say it was impossible! Where did you get that? If you are going to continually say that I have said something that I have not, then this dialogue is on a dead end course. I count at least seven remarks in your last post that you say I have said, which in reality I have not!
I can tell you right now, and you may not want to believe it because I am skeptical of your "proprietary design and materials", but you will not never get anthing short of a true, honest, and reliable antenna assessment out of me.

If you keep going back and editing your post's ....eventually you can remove or change the words from everything you have said and make it look like I am misquoting you....but these people on here are not going to fall for tricks like that. Just give it up...your caught....move on and hi jack another post.....

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quote:
Originally posted by Hoosier Outlaw
If you keep going back and editing your post's ....eventually you can remove or change the words from everything you have said and make it look like I am misquoting you....but these people on here are not going to fall for tricks like that. Just give it up...your caught....move on and hi jack another post.....

Actually, you are the one that is caught or you would be happy to send me an antenna for review. The only editing I have done is when I have caught some bad spelling due to typing too fast!
Every post I have made is in its original form except for a minor typo here and there so yes, you are saying that I have said alot of things that I have not!

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1. what brand or type of antenna?
I use the new long ant that Garmin sends with the 320.

2. what model of garmin system are you using?
Astro 320 and 2 DC30 collars

3. what type of terrain do you hunt...flat, rolling, hilly, mountains, swamps, etc?
Rolling hills

4. what kind of actual range do you really get on a consistent basis? (what can you count on most of the time?) at what distance does the ? mark pop up because you have lost the comm. signal?
with the new ant I get 900 yards before its drops the collar at all and most times it picks it back up pretty quick. I have gotten a little over a mle with it.

5. how much of an increase in distance did you actually see after you replaced your original garmin antenna with an aftermarket antenna?
Not real sure which helps. Either the tuff skin ant I got from Bruce K or the longer ant from Garmin. the range went from 700 yards to over 900

6. Finally, what distance would you really be satisfied with that could be consistently attained using your garmin under real world conditions...remember I said consistently. (please don't say as much as you can get)

I'd like to get a mile to mile half out of them. I'd feel pretty safe with that.

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quote:
Originally posted by Hoosier Outlaw
I still don't see you identifying yourself....
I still don't see you denying that you have ties to Garmin...
Even if you did deny your connection to Garmin....without you revealing your identity...how would people know if it were true?
Your right that this post has shown only a small sampling....but what you don't know is that I hunt all over this country in competition. I am at a hunt somewhere almost every weekend and I deal with hundreds of houndsmen on a regular basis....and we all know that we are by and large not satisfied with the range we are getting with our Garmin systems...especially after seeing all of Garmins advertisements that lead people to believe they get 7-9 miles of range out of the box. The only way they might come close to that as they come from the factory is line of sight from an airplane.
If it wasn't obvious to the readers of this post yet that you have some kind of affiliation with Garmin....your last post leaves little doubt about that.
If you talked to as many real houndsmen as I do and listened to their concerns instead of preaching the praises of the Garmin system and how you feel that it should more than meet their needs, well then you might understand that improvement is needed and wanted by most who have purchased the system.
I doubt that your true motives will ever be revealed unless and until you stop hiding behind an alias and making excuses for what the Garmin system lacks.
Just so everyone understands....I like my Garmin system and never turn my dogs loose without one. They are a great improvement over telemetry systems of the past....but just think, if we never tried to improve upon those antiquated systems...we wouldn't be using advanced systems like the Garmin today.
The Garmin system is great, but it can and will be improved. I am sure Garmin is trying to do that as we speak. But this is America and anyone can try and nobody should be discouraged from trying. I am spending my money and time on this project and only someone who has a connection to Garmin or another competitor would try as hard as you to discourage someone like me, while at the same time writing so many posts that try to make people feel like they should be happy with the system the way it is.
Be smart people....guys like this have an agenda....and they will try very hard to keep you from finding out what it really is. Don't fall for it!
Shane Maxey

This is actually becoming funny! I see you are still putting words in my mouth!
The only agenda I have is to not see any more of my fellow hunters get it broke off in them. That is why I am asking and challenging you here now for an antenna for me to review! If the many folks I have dealt with will come on here and read this, I think they will tell you it will be an honest and unbiased review!
Who do you think it was that turned many fellow hunters onto a magnet mount antenna that was at a fraction of the cost of the one that Garmin sells with the same performance? I actually sent money back to some buyers because it did not cost as much to send them as I thought it would. For that matter, I did not even break even on that second batch of antennas I destributed!
I guess Garmin is going to fire me now that I let the cat out of the bag!
I will be happy to identify myself to you as soon as you agree to send me a prototype for evaluation!

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220 with dc40 all stock, if the engineers at garmin thought my collars needed different antennas - they would supply them. if I need more range I get my 155 ats yagi and get 5 mile.

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quote:
Originally posted by HOBO
1. what brand or type of antenna?
I use the new long ant that Garmin sends with the 320.

2. what model of garmin system are you using?
Astro 320 and 2 DC30 collars

3. what type of terrain do you hunt...flat, rolling, hilly, mountains, swamps, etc?
Rolling hills

4. what kind of actual range do you really get on a consistent basis? (what can you count on most of the time?) at what distance does the ? mark pop up because you have lost the comm. signal?
with the new ant I get 900 yards before its drops the collar at all and most times it picks it back up pretty quick. I have gotten a little over a mle with it.

5. how much of an increase in distance did you actually see after you replaced your original garmin antenna with an aftermarket antenna?
Not real sure which helps. Either the tuff skin ant I got from Bruce K or the longer ant from Garmin. the range went from 700 yards to over 900

6. Finally, what distance would you really be satisfied with that could be consistently attained using your garmin under real world conditions...remember I said consistently. (please don't say as much as you can get)

I'd like to get a mile to mile half out of them. I'd feel pretty safe with that.

I just got in from gathering dogs that got scattered. With my 320 with the long antenna that came with it and a standard DC30, I was getting almost a mile and a half line of site across the river bottom. When I was driving around to come in from the other side, it dropped to about 700 yards because of hills between the dog and I.

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quote:
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220 with dc40 all stock, if the engineers at garmin thought my collars needed different antennas - they would supply them. if I need more range I get my 155 ats yagi and get 5 mile.

Thank you!!!!

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quote:
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220 with dc40 all stock, if the engineers at garmin thought my collars needed different antennas - they would supply them. if I need more range I get my 155 ats yagi and get 5 mile.

LOL, that may be in the works.............if you look at when the system first came out and look at them now.........they have consistently made upgrades (just look back at the DC20 to now) and you can bet that when that before the latest upgrades were released, the plans for the next upgrade was already on the drawing board.

Here is a different spin on your comment of "if the engineers at garmin thought my collars needed different antennas - they would supply them" -- have you ever upgraded a vehicle such as change the stock tires to better tires for your hunting truck, add a different fuel injector system, and etc.... even though the automobile maker did not supply them?

The reason there are add-ons/enhancement products on all kind of products we use is because the stock version was lacking and we are able to getter better improved use out it with the add-ons/enhancement products.

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Here is an example.......Remember the DC20 with little stubby antenna, all of the non Garmin products for it such as the whip antenna upgrade, counter weight, and etc.. to improve the DC20 and get better range on it even though the engineers didn't supply them.

After the DC20, what style collar replaced it? The radio style collar as they created the DC30 to what folks were doing with the DC20 with the after market products to improve the issues with it.............just because an engineers designed it, doesnt mean it's absolute and no room or need or for improvement -- the DC20 disproves that theory.

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When I said thank you, I was referring to the ATS yagi that he used to increase his range.
The problem with the DC20 is not so much the antenna, but the abuse it received by hanging "down" rather than up or off to the side.
I am not sure the makers of the Garmin ever intended for the DC20 to be placed on a hard running, wide ranging hound. Most of the Garmin pictures as well as the manual lend one to relate to bird dogs more than hounds. I think the market use is what demanded immediate upgrades from the DC20.
And yes, the DC30 and 40 antennas "OEM" are completely adequate. They are not very durable though.

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quote:
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Here is an example.......Remember the DC20 with little stubby antenna, all of the non Garmin products for it such as the whip antenna upgrade, counter weight, and etc.. to improve the DC20 and get better range on it even though the engineers didn't supply them.

After the DC20, what style collar replaced it? The radio style collar as they created the DC30 to what folks were doing with the DC20 with the after market products to improve the issues with it.............just because an engineers designed it, doesnt mean it's absolute and no room or need or for improvement -- the DC20 disproves that theory.

In most things there are always room for improvement. Bear in mind, when the garmin was developed the target audience was for bird dogs, and the system worked as designed for that audience. The garmin was adapted by tree dog enthusiasts for their use, not meeting our standards, we configured it to suit our needs. When our needs was met from adating the dc 20, garmin in turn tried to accomodate the hound hunters with the dc30 collar, the roof mount antenna and a few other options.

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quote:
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LOL, that may be in the works.............if you look at when the system first came out and look at them now.........they have consistently made upgrades (just look back at the DC20 to now) and you can bet that when that before the latest upgrades were released, the plans for the next upgrade was already on the drawing board.

Here is a different spin on your comment of "if the engineers at garmin thought my collars needed different antennas - they would supply them" -- have you ever upgraded a vehicle such as change the stock tires to better tires for your hunting truck, add a different fuel injector system, and etc.... even though the automobile maker did not supply them?

The reason there are add-ons/enhancement products on all kind of products we use is because the stock version was lacking and we are able to getter better improved use out it with the add-ons/enhancement products.

What is better? That is kind of subjective is it not? A better tire for you may not be a better tire for me? You may be mudding, I may never get off road. I may want better fuel mileage, you may not!
I must say I am ignorant to what a "better" fuel injector system would do. Would you get better gas mileage or more power?
As far as better antennas go for the Garmin, there is pretty much one thing in mind and that is range! Ease of use and durability would have to be a given!
I am not saying these things can't be improved upon and that is why I am willing to test this "proprietary antenna".

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hoosier outlaw unfortunately i see your side and intellectionalists i am a ham radio licensed operator and i will tell you by doing a longer antenna or one that is not got the right wind on it or too much static letback i will laugh when they come back to you in 5-20mnths wanting you to replace there collars please research ALL the garmin collar outputs and exact data because you can fry their ollars with the littlest micro decible miss calculation and get in trouble with the fcc for certain ranges and such if you accidentally hack into another frequency i have done alot of research on different antennas and most on the market for the collar are just rigidity upgrades or are actually bad for your 40's health now as for the handheld there VERY tempermental and i have blown three 220s just foolin with yagis and diferent expandable antennas i dont know anything or even close to everything as far as antennas but i will tell you this i know enough to be dangerous as the saying goes and i think majic tree hound is on the right track with a amp collar side but i would assume it needs to be handheld side as if you think about it all the antennas hand held upgraded are getting better signals collar wise not so much i would be happ to try and help you with your antennas but i am blunt and to the point if i think itll work or not

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srry if i offend i would just rather it get done right and protects the collar board as well

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"different antennas and most on the market for the collar are just rigidity upgrades or are actually bad for your 40's health"

I couldn't agree more!!!!!!!!!!!

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In most things there are always room for improvement. Bear in mind, when the garmin was developed the target audience was for bird dogs, and the system worked as designed for that audience. The garmin was adapted by tree dog enthusiasts for their use, not meeting our standards, we configured it to suit our needs. When our needs was met from adating the dc 20, garmin in turn tried to accomodate the hound hunters with the dc30 collar, the roof mount antenna and a few other options.

I think we must have been responding at about the same time!!! LOL

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hoosier outlaw unfortunately i see your side and intellectionalists i am a ham radio licensed operator and i will tell you by doing a longer antenna or one that is not got the right wind on it or too much static letback i will laugh when they come back to you in 5-20mnths wanting you to replace there collars please research ALL the garmin collar outputs and exact data because you can fry their ollars with the littlest micro decible miss calculation and get in trouble with the fcc for certain ranges and such if you accidentally hack into another frequency i have done alot of research on different antennas and most on the market for the collar are just rigidity upgrades or are actually bad for your 40's health now as for the handheld there VERY tempermental and i have blown three 220s just foolin with yagis and diferent expandable antennas i dont know anything or even close to everything as far as antennas but i will tell you this i know enough to be dangerous as the saying goes and i think majic tree hound is on the right track with a amp collar side but i would assume it needs to be handheld side as if you think about it all the antennas hand held upgraded are getting better signals collar wise not so much i would be happ to try and help you with your antennas but i am blunt and to the point if i think itll work or not

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I appreciate your post....and the fact that you don't hide behind an alias like my critic on this post. But the fact is, you both seem to be assuming that I am using or adapting existing antenna technowlegy to get an increase in range and that may not be the case. I have given very few details as to the type or design of my antenna for the handheld unit. The antenna for the collar gives only a modest boost in range by itself, but is made from more durable and receptive materials than the factory garmin collar antennas....copper, brass, and silver to be exact. It is when the collar antenna is used in conjunction with the new handheld unit antenna that I have seen large gains in range.
I don't doubt that you may know alot more than I when it comes to existing ham radio spectrum antenna design and technowlegy. But just like the light technowlegy that I am developing....it's brand new as far as I have been able to find out through my research. The critic who has attatched himself to my post like a leech has clouded the whole intent of this post and spewed fourth alot of inaccurate data that does not pertain to my design based on his personal assumptions about me, my antenna design, and my intent and future plans for the design after testing. This post was never intended to put my antenna design under the microscope for public scrutiny. If I put this product on the market...then it will be fair game for those who want to evaluate it and give their opinions. But I think with what little detail I have given about it and the conservative claim I have made about what was achieved in testing....it's a little premature for the critics to come out of the woodwork.
I have several product designs in testing and development....this is just one of them and it may not be practical to bring it to market if it will just give the same results you can get with existing technowlogy. But it's my time and money I am pouring into this project so I'm not sure why my critic has become soo alarmed at what I am doing unless he is affiliated with Garmin or a competitor. Bringing a product to market is an area I am familiar with as one of my degrees is in marketing and I wont waste time on a product that wont fill a specific need in a market where such a need exists .
I really want this post to get back to what it was intended for....to get a picture of the range that houndsmen are getting in real world conditions with their garmin systems and whether it's enough to suit their needs. All this other talk on here by my critic is just static that needs to go away so that real, honest houndsmen can help me gather the information I asked for at the beginning of this post. If and when I do offer a new handheld antenna to the hunters out there....they will ultimately decide it's fate. That being said, I may contact you in the future for help and information as I proceed with my testing of these antennas and thank you for offering to help.....Shane Maxey

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11-23-2011 05:27 AM

xforce6
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well im just tryin to help based on my expierience i may be fresh out of college but i do have an associates in electrical engineering i can take one of my led drivers put it in a bright eyes white lightning head which is a 5 cree led drop in from dealextreme.com and a puck driver it is at 886 lumens with my driver in my white lightning head im at roughly 1200lumens the max potential of the crees so i know a lil about the crees and driver building if your serious about building these antennas and i seen something about a light let me know ill help anyway i can all i ask is im not connected to it in anyway for legal reasons if something goes wrong

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11-23-2011 06:15 AM

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This is actually becoming funny! I see you are still putting words in my mouth!
The only agenda I have is to not see any more of my fellow hunters get it broke off in them. That is why I am asking and challenging you here now for an antenna for me to review! If the many folks I have dealt with will come on here and read this, I think they will tell you it will be an honest and unbiased review!
Who do you think it was that turned many fellow hunters onto a magnet mount antenna that was at a fraction of the cost of the one that Garmin sells with the same performance? I actually sent money back to some buyers because it did not cost as much to send them as I thought it would. For that matter, I did not even break even on that second batch of antennas I destributed!
I guess Garmin is going to fire me now that I let the cat out of the bag!
I will be happy to identify myself to you as soon as you agree to send me a prototype for evaluation!

You truly are rediculous. You will not reveal your true identity until and unless I send you something for free...lol. Why on earth would I do that? Why do I need to do that? What makes you think that your endorcement or denouncement will either make or break the success of my antenna? Do you really consider yourself "the" foremost authority of 151mhz-155mhz frequency antennas? I could really care less what you have to say about my antenna because it would be entirely based on your false assumptions and therefore be wrong. I am sure you are probably a legend in your own mind, but pardon me if I seem less than impressed with you after reading over many of your posts from the past few years. You keep hiding behind your alias and saying that im wrong about all the things you have insinuated about me and my antenna design. Well, people can read back over your posts...at least the ones that you have not edited and decide if I was wrong about the intent of your statements. Maybe they should read back over some of the many other threads and posts by you by searching your alias to find all your previous posts. I just finished reading through as many as I could stand and have come to the conclusion that you truly are a disrespectful piece of work (or maybe it's something else) The way that you talk down to people and try to belittle them and some of their questions or ideas....wow, thats all I can say....no wonder you hide behind an alias! They say you should know your enemy....but I couldn't stomach reading any more of your"know it all" self rightious, and often down right rude posts. I have seen enough to know that what you have done to my post, you have done to many, many others and it would do no good to take it personal.
So I am going to tell you one last time that I will never send you one of my antennas to get your opinion on it. At this point I really would like to ask you in the nicest possible way not to comment or opine on my post anymore. This post is for information gathering for further research and development of my antenna project. I am not asking for nor willing to hear anymore of your comments so please refrain from making anymore and let real houndsmen from around the country post about their garmin systems range performance. Thank you....Shane

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11-23-2011 06:38 AM

Hoosier Outlaw
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quote:
Originally posted by xforce6
well im just tryin to help based on my expierience i may be fresh out of college but i do have an associates in electrical engineering i can take one of my led drivers put it in a bright eyes white lightning head which is a 5 cree led drop in from dealextreme.com and a puck driver it is at 886 lumens with my driver in my white lightning head im at roughly 1200lumens the max potential of the crees so i know a lil about the crees and driver building if your serious about building these antennas and i seen something about a light let me know ill help anyway i can all i ask is im not connected to it in anyway for legal reasons if something goes wrong

Sounds like you have been doing your homework on cutting edge light technowlegy as well. My prototype single led spotlight puts out over 2500 lumens, it and the single led head are both focusable (neither use reflectors) from flood to spot and the battery pack is 7.4 volts @12 amps and very lightwieght. Alot of light builders have not figured out that LED's project about 3 times further than they reflect. I have yet to see even a 28 volt spot that can shine brighter, whiter, or further than my Banshee Light prototype....but lets get back on topic with the Garmin range issue shall we