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just wait till they try to slap you with a lawsuit i got some implants about 2 yrs ago that tried that to sue me but i was told nobody would take his case.

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Glad you've lived in the same place for 41 years, the post was not directed at you. The issue of dealing with transplants is becoming a bigger issue in rural america. They by 5/10/15 acres and suddenly think they should pass zoning ordinances/dictate the way of life for families that have been stewards of the land for generations. The majority of the time these individuals are the ones that want to deny you from catching you dogs if they happen to tree on them, even if you ask. They are the ones that post their property every 100 feet and put in a 100'x100' food plot and think the belong to the quality deer management movement while putting their stand in your fence line facing away from their property. I'm sorry, I may be an azz, but that kind of neighbor I can do without.
Government continues to try to infringe on landowner rights as it is. As far as I would be concerned he'd learn to live with it and if he complained again, he learn there are worse things than dogs barking to deal with. I would exercise my right to fertilize my fields adjacent to his house. In my neighborhood we all visit with each other/swap farm work back and forth and mutually support each other, not whine about a dog barking every once in a while.

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Feller moved in from somewhere a while back and called the Police out, told them a guy was out here destroying a mans crop, a friend of mine was topping tobacco.

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Glad you've lived in the same place for 41 years, the post was not directed at you. The issue of dealing with transplants is becoming a bigger issue in rural america. They by 5/10/15 acres and suddenly think they should pass zoning ordinances/dictate the way of life for families that have been stewards of the land for generations. The majority of the time these individuals are the ones that want to deny you from catching you dogs if they happen to tree on them, even if you ask. They are the ones that post their property every 100 feet and put in a 100'x100' food plot and think the belong to the quality deer management movement while putting their stand in your fence line facing away from their property. I'm sorry, I may be an azz, but that kind of neighbor I can do without.
Government continues to try to infringe on landowner rights as it is. As far as I would be concerned he'd learn to live with it and if he complained again, he learn there are worse things than dogs barking to deal with. I would exercise my right to fertilize my fields adjacent to his house. In my neighborhood we all visit with each other/swap farm work back and forth and mutually support each other, not whine about a dog barking every once in a while.


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Glad you've lived in the same place for 41 years, the post was not directed at you. The issue of dealing with transplants is becoming a bigger issue in rural america. They by 5/10/15 acres and suddenly think they should pass zoning ordinances/dictate the way of life for families that have been stewards of the land for generations. The majority of the time these individuals are the ones that want to deny you from catching you dogs if they happen to tree on them, even if you ask. They are the ones that post their property every 100 feet and put in a 100'x100' food plot and think the belong to the quality deer management movement while putting their stand in your fence line facing away from their property. I'm sorry, I may be an azz, but that kind of neighbor I can do without.
Government continues to try to infringe on landowner rights as it is. As far as I would be concerned he'd learn to live with it and if he complained again, he learn there are worse things than dogs barking to deal with. I would exercise my right to fertilize my fields adjacent to his house. In my neighborhood we all visit with each other/swap farm work back and forth and mutually support each other, not whine about a dog barking every once in a while.



LOL A real estate salesman knew the comunity and knew that a looker was not going to fit in well on that five acres. He told the guy that every deer for thousands of acres around ran through there and would have dogs chasing it. Also, since it was a corner tract all the deer hunters gathered in front of it to catch up their dogs. The fellow said he wanted to move to the country for piece and quiet and little to no crime . The agent told him that's what everybody says but this place does not come with a "moving in kit". The fellow asked what a moving in kit included. The agent told him a chainlink fence, a bad dog, a security light and no tresspassing signs. The fellow got his drift and said lets go look for another place.

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Glad you've lived in the same place for 41 years, the post was not directed at you. The issue of dealing with transplants is becoming a bigger issue in rural america. They by 5/10/15 acres and suddenly think they should pass zoning ordinances/dictate the way of life for families that have been stewards of the land for generations. The majority of the time these individuals are the ones that want to deny you from catching you dogs if they happen to tree on them, even if you ask. They are the ones that post their property every 100 feet and put in a 100'x100' food plot and think the belong to the quality deer management movement while putting their stand in your fence line facing away from their property. I'm sorry, I may be an azz, but that kind of neighbor I can do without.
Government continues to try to infringe on landowner rights as it is. As far as I would be concerned he'd learn to live with it and if he complained again, he learn there are worse things than dogs barking to deal with. I would exercise my right to fertilize my fields adjacent to his house. In my neighborhood we all visit with each other/swap farm work back and forth and mutually support each other, not whine about a dog barking every once in a while.



I actually agree with alot of what you are saying here, but what you are saying goes well beyond the topic of having a nuisance barking dog! Most normal people do not complain about a dog barking once in a while although there are a few abnormal people who will. If you had to live next to what I have, you would complain too. You sound like a fine neighbor that someone would love to have next door. Yeah right!!!
I was raised to respect my neighbors and not subject them torments such as nuisance barking. I am not talking about a dog that barks for 10-15 minutes and then shuts up. Neighbors who whine about that are butts for sure. I am talking about dogs that keep neighbors awake at night and actually reduce the quality of life for those subjected to the onslaught of perpetual barking.
I don't know how your rant got off on stuff that was not even being talked about or had nothing to do with the subject.

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Glad you've lived in the same place for 41 years, the post was not directed at you. The issue of dealing with transplants is becoming a bigger issue in rural america. They by 5/10/15 acres and suddenly think they should pass zoning ordinances/dictate the way of life for families that have been stewards of the land for generations. The majority of the time these individuals are the ones that want to deny you from catching you dogs if they happen to tree on them, even if you ask. They are the ones that post their property every 100 feet and put in a 100'x100' food plot and think the belong to the quality deer management movement while putting their stand in your fence line facing away from their property. I'm sorry, I may be an azz, but that kind of neighbor I can do without.
Government continues to try to infringe on landowner rights as it is. As far as I would be concerned he'd learn to live with it and if he complained again, he learn there are worse things than dogs barking to deal with. I would exercise my right to fertilize my fields adjacent to his house. In my neighborhood we all visit with each other/swap farm work back and forth and mutually support each other, not whine about a dog barking every once in a while.



Lets see, you say this today that I have quoted above and not long ago you said this

"It all boils down courtesy, too many guys with dogs think they can just do whatever the hell they want to. I keep my place posted because of deer poachers. The same with the neighbor across the road, plus he allows no coon hunting because he caught a couple guys cutting holes in his brand new hog wire fence about every 200 yards so their dog's would be able to get through. Even though both sides are posted we have people cut loose all the time because we live on a creek.
If they would simply ask, I'd let anyone hunt, but no one seems to have the balls to do that. I've got permission to hunt more places than I have time to hunt. I always call the landowner the day before and let them know we'll be on their place. It gets great results.
If stealing and theft is anything like it is here, you had better try to get ahold of a landowner, farmers around here are sick and tired of getting ripped off. In Missouri you don't even have to have signs up, if you don't have permission, your trespassing. If I have to go in on strange property I'll do my best to find the landowner's house before going in, if your marching across my place without permission, your going to get met, and yes, I'll have a gun, your won't see it.
Too much crime in our area to just let people come and go.

You sound like the transplant to me!

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If your county has a noise ordinance, I am sure a couple $50 fines would motivate you to put the bark collars back on!


For our county I was told it is a $1000.00 per dog fine. I have 12 dogs. You do the math.

Mine wear bark collars and I stay a nervous wreck. Now how fun is that? Here's the kicker ~ we live 12 miles in any direction from a town limit. I moved this far out because of my hounds. Yep. I have one neighbor just a wee bit too close.

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For our county I was told it is a $1000.00 per dog fine. I have 12 dogs. You do the math.

Mine wear bark collars and I stay a nervous wreck. Now how fun is that? Here's the kicker ~ we live 12 miles in any direction from a town limit. I moved this far out because of my hounds. Yep. I have one neighbor just a wee bit too close.



Wow, that is obscene. The town is one thing, but the county can adopt these same ordinances too as is the case where I live.
In most instances, it will take a few complaints to get a citation.
The officer has to roll up and hear the nuisance barking for himself before he can issue a citation. Just explain to your neighbor what steps you have taken to minimize the barking and if there are any problems not to hesitate to call you.
That is exactly what I told my new neighbors just the other day.

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The theft and crime rate isn't attributed to people who live in my neighbor, sure there are some rural kids who do, most of the ones that have been caught are tweakers coming out from town to steal copper, batteries out of tractors, anything they can turn into a buck. I'll let any neighbor hunt my place, we've all agreed to to let each other coon/coyote/dove hunt on each others places. We do treat our neighbors with respect, and we get it back. The family as a whole runs over 1k acres and have only had one issue with one azzjack who moved in from a city on an adjoining twenty. The rest are the folks who come in from urban areas to float the creeks, raise hell, leave their trash for landowners to pick up. In all truthfulness we have had some hunters come in from other areas that do not ask permission, cut holes for dogs, like I said anyone could hunt, all they have to is ask. It sure doesn't sound like GA Dawg's hounds are nuisance barkers, it sound more like a nuisance neighbor, face it dogs are going to bark, it's part of owning dogs. At feeding time, mine will bark and I make no apologies for it and my neighbors don't expect one either

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I've been agreeing with you and Intelectuallist but it seems he has caught you dead to rights but I never saw what he quoted you said. But if you said what he said you said kind of like He said she said and I have been through a D vorce then he has got you dead to rights . That part he quoted you said could be explained though as far as I am concerned . Also, Intellectualist could further his statements because 100 years aint jack to how long my family has occupied this remnant piece of land originally granted by the Big KIng and lost and regained and lost in the Civil War, and lost and regained after the Great Depression And lost to the IRS recently and regained by my hard working kids buying back their inheritance that was stolen from me and them . There is no No trespassing sign on the place. To train and behave yourself and get your dog and bee gone. The neighborhood kids train dogs out here and i know it and they got a thing going that they feel something is watching them, spooky like, and guess what? They are correct. But I like kids having free range to come and go as they please> it reminds me of when I was a kid.

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I've not taken any steps to minimize mines barking. I hope he does call the law. My folks show horses with the head knocker of animal control. He even comes out here. He would know if I have dogs barking all the time. They don't bark anymore than any other dogs. Just this evening I stood out side. Heard a dog barking in that subdivision like crazy. Maybe they gave the collar away to soon??? Plus the closest house is pretty dang far away. We own 8ac in between us. My kennels are closest to us. Maybe 75 yards from the house.I know dang well if I can't hear them they can't. Its not like they are barking while Im gone either. My parents are retired a seldom are gone during the day. Maybe they need a hearing aid or something? Our renters are home a lot to. He's a fireman and has lots of off days. He ain't heard em.. Just now I heard my boston terrier bark on the porch. They must be hearing him? I'll tell ya what it is. They want to move to the country and make it like it was where they came from. That ain't happening here! How many of you have had the law called for shooting on your own land? I have. Its ridiculous. Yet these folks think its fine and dandy to take strolls on your land. Ride 4 wheelers and let the kids swim without permission. Fine for them to let dogs run all over every where. Mine bark a little though and some COWARD leaves a note on my mailbox. I really hope to run into him soon.

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The theft and crime rate isn't attributed to people who live in my neighbor, sure there are some rural kids who do, most of the ones that have been caught are tweakers coming out from town to steal copper, batteries out of tractors, anything they can turn into a buck. I'll let any neighbor hunt my place, we've all agreed to to let each other coon/coyote/dove hunt on each others places. We do treat our neighbors with respect, and we get it back. The family as a whole runs over 1k acres and have only had one issue with one azzjack who moved in from a city on an adjoining twenty. The rest are the folks who come in from urban areas to float the creeks, raise hell, leave their trash for landowners to pick up. In all truthfulness we have had some hunters come in from other areas that do not ask permission, cut holes for dogs, like I said anyone could hunt, all they have to is ask. It sure doesn't sound like GA Dawg's hounds are nuisance barkers, it sound more like a nuisance neighbor, face it dogs are going to bark, it's part of owning dogs. At feeding time, mine will bark and I make no apologies for it and my neighbors don't expect one either


I never said his dogs were nuisance barkers but normal people, who are not mental, do not complain or leave bark collars at your house if your dogs bark "just at feeding time" or "when someone pulls up in the yard".
As a dog owner, it is your responsibility to keep your dog from barking to the point that it is a nuisance.
The point I was making with the quote, was in this thread you were griping about people having an acre and not letting you catch your dog, even if you asked and therefore thought that land owner was pretty sorry. That could be determined by the tenor of your post. Then, just the other day you talk about meeting someone on your property with a gun. So I guess in your own eyes, not mine, you are of the same character as the land owner you were griping about earlier in this thread!
So which is it dude? Are landowners low down because they will not let you get your dog or does that logic not apply to you?

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I've not taken any steps to minimize mines barking. I hope he does call the law. My folks show horses with the head knocker of animal control. He even comes out here. He would know if I have dogs barking all the time. They don't bark anymore than any other dogs. Just this evening I stood out side. Heard a dog barking in that subdivision like crazy. Maybe they gave the collar away to soon??? Plus the closest house is pretty dang far away. We own 8ac in between us. My kennels are closest to us. Maybe 75 yards from the house.I know dang well if I can't hear them they can't. Its not like they are barking while Im gone either. My parents are retired a seldom are gone during the day. Maybe they need a hearing aid or something? Our renters are home a lot to. He's a fireman and has lots of off days. He ain't heard em.. Just now I heard my boston terrier bark on the porch. They must be hearing him? I'll tell ya what it is. They want to move to the country and make it like it was where they came from. That ain't happening here! How many of you have had the law called for shooting on your own land? I have. Its ridiculous. Yet these folks think its fine and dandy to take strolls on your land. Ride 4 wheelers and let the kids swim without permission. Fine for them to let dogs run all over every where. Mine bark a little though and some COWARD leaves a note on my mailbox. I really hope to run into him soon.


All of this is true, I am certain of it. You are a well respected member of this forum and been here a long time. I have no reason to doubt you.
Let me tell you this though. I have new neighbors. These neighbors work at the same place I do and have for a while now.
I noticed the other day it was windy and my old dog was barking. I soon put a stop to it. My neighbor reported to work on 3rd shift and I asked if he had heard either of my dogs barking and he said no. I then told him to never hesitate to call if he heard them and it was aggravating him. He then said his wife asked him if he had heard them barking because their landlord asked her if she had heard them. She had not heard them barking either but evidently their landlord did who lives about 200 yards from me. My new neighbors live about 35 yards from my kennel.
I tell this story to indicate that just because one hears the dogs barking does not mean everyone will. I heard my dog, my next door neighbors didnt, their landlord who lives much farther away did, and most people who are not mental, do not just arbitrarily leave bark collars laying around.
Do you know this neighbor? Has he always acted relatively normal? The answer to these questions would reveal alot.

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If you claim to be Intelectual, how in the world can you talk in terms of "normal people". ? didn't you learn any thing at college? Take NC Rep James Taylor as an example. I like that nut case of ya'lls . Ya'll got to deal with him,I don't > I just sing his songs when I am trying to get a little "strange" if you know what I mean. "Chicken Chokin --------------- Steam Roller". I see where he hosted a party for Obama during the campaign and I recognised a bunch of NCS professors at the Rally. They were grinning like they weren't even nakid LOL . You don't happen to live within the pubic triangle of education? do you? I don't mind asking, for I went to Clemson." Deep Fat Southern Funky Fried, SteEeEeam Roller Baaa LUUOOSE."

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If you claim to be Intelectual, how in the world can you talk in terms of "normal people". ? didn't you learn any thing at college? Take NC Rep James Taylor as an example. I like that nut case of ya'lls . Ya'll got to deal with him,I don't > I just sing his songs when I am trying to get a little "strange" if you know what I mean. "Chicken Chokin --------------- Steam Roller". I see where he hosted a party for Obama during the campaign and I recognised a bunch of NCS professors at the Rally. They were grinning like they weren't even nakid LOL . You don't happen to live within the pubic triangle of education? do you? I don't mind asking, for I went to Clemson. Deep Fat Southern Funky Fried, SteEeEeam Roller Baaa LUUOOSE.


I must say, there are no posts I enjoy reading more than yours Lyle. I mean that with all honesty.
I do not claim to be intellectual, I just thought it would be a cool username (:
I am not at all familiar with the pubic triangle, thankfully.

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I must say, there are no posts I enjoy reading more than yours Lyle. I mean that with all honesty.
I do not claim to be intellectual, I just thought it would be a cool username (:
I am not at all familiar with the pubic triangle, thankfully.

How bout JT ? I like that crazy rascal most as much as Truly.! I would not fess up that I was not familiar with the PUBIC TRIANGLE . I did omit the L on purpose no matter what Truly thinks.

BTW I had a mathemetician review your brick and half a brick thing and after a couple of hours of serious imbibing , he said after his results of another project were being Peer reviewed before being published, That he would give some additional consideration to your brick a brick problem> I still hold to 1 pound after takin notes from Truly on how to ignore and twist things around though.

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How bout JT ? I like that crazy rascal most as much as Truly.! I would not fess up that I was not familiar with the PUBIC TRIANGLE . I did omit the L on purpose no matter what Truly thinks.

BTW I had a mathemetician review your brick and half a brick thing and after a couple of hours of serious imbibing , he said after his results of another project were being Peer reviewed before being published, That he would give some additional consideration to your brick a brick problem> I still hold to 1 pound after takin notes from Truly on how to ignore and twist things around though.



Truly is truly the master at that! I am sure the left wing progressive liberals would like to create a few federal jobs to review the mathmatical anomaly of the weight of the brick!

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Truly is truly the master at that! I am sure the left wing progressive liberals would like to create a few federal jobs to review the mathmatical anomaly of the weight of the brick!
LOL I appologise, the pubic triangle is my name for it. It is really called on the radio and TV and news papers the "triangle of Education" LOL Starting at Raleigh to Charlotte to some Gawd Forsaken point unknown. Undoubtedly along the Coast though. I still like them pubic triangles though.

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