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Are people going ot put anymore stock in a HTX than they do Nitech or Grnitech after a dogs name? Constantly people are saying that titles don't tree coon, so what is the difference. Are people more likely to buy pups out of HTX dogs than competition titled dogs?


I do like the idea of NITECH requiring the passing of HTX.

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I'm sure there are some out there that would give extra consideration to the HTX when breeding or buying a pup. I have never met any of them, never actually heard anyone say that, but I'm sure they are out there.


If UKC required an HTX to hunt in nite hunts, UKC nite hunts would go down the drain in one year because 95% of the guys that are actually out there paying entry fees don't give a crap about HTX and never will.

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I can assure there is no jealousy. Like usual, all you rocket scientists missed my point. I have no problem with the HTX hunts. In fact, I think they were long over due. The big question is how many times do you need to prove your dog can tree a coon? Do you really need to do it THIRTY TIMES? I mean, REALLY? They're supposed to be COONDOGS. I know all the bla, bla, bla about "me too dogs", I've seen more than my share of them. But the question is: Is a HTX10 dog more capable of treeing coon than a HTX3 dog?
Hey, I agree that if that's your thing then knock yourself out - drive all over the state and prove once again your dog can tree a coon. Keep racking up HTX numbers. My only point is after HTX3 it's pointless. If my dogs can't tree their own coon they don't live here.

Sorry if I offended one of your "prominent" dudes. I could care less if he's considered "prominent" or just a guy with a dog on a rope in the backyard. You have nothing to prove by making a dog HTX10 or HTX10,000,000. Once a dog makes HTX3 he's shown me everything I need to see.

I will say this, all you guys with your panties in a bunch over my comment are right, It's none of my business how a guy decides to spend his money. Let me rephrase it, if you think that HTX10 is better than HTX3 you have a small brain.

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And some folks hunt them so they don't have to listen to all the bickering by comp hunters. Just look at this thread ! LOL

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...... Let me rephrase it, if you think that HTX10 is better than HTX3 you have a small brain.

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by JiM
I'm sure there are some out there that would give extra consideration to the HTX when breeding or buying a pup. I have never met any of them, never actually heard anyone say that, but I'm sure they are out there.


If UKC required an HTX to hunt in nite hunts, UKC nite hunts would go down the drain in one year because 95 of the guys that are actually out there paying entry fees don't give a crap about HTX and never will. [/QUOTE

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i like the HTX hunts. the reason being is that i have been in the woods with several Grands that would not leave the truck without company. some of these 12 month old grand nites are just real good at snagging a tree or two and pulling out with enough to win. to me that is not a coon dog. i don't do much of the hunts anymore, been there and done that. but i do hit a few here and there. i have been beat by some great dogs and i have been beat by some that can not tree a coon alone. then again i have won my share. i personally would not show up at a hunt with a dog that can not tree his own coon consistantly.

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i like the HTX hunts. the reason being is that i have been in the woods with several Grands that would not leave the truck without company. some of these 12 month old grand nites are just real good at snagging a tree or two and pulling out with enough to win. to me that is not a coon dog.

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I've heard this one too.... Htx's are for mean dogs that cant hunt with anything.

It dont matter what you do ,, people are gonna bitch


I've always thought bench show should be after the hunt only cast winners can enter ... but that will never happen

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Good job Natalie on winning Best Male of Show at Kentucky State and Abe got another pass last nite toward # 6 on the HTX. Made 5 trees and look at 2 coon not bad for 11 and half year old dog.

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I'm sure there are some out there that would give extra consideration to the HTX when breeding or buying a pup. I have never met any of them, never actually heard anyone say that, but I'm sure they are out there.


If UKC required an HTX to hunt in nite hunts, UKC nite hunts would go down the drain in one year because 95% of the guys that are actually out there paying entry fees don't give a crap about HTX and never will.

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Big wallet, small brain.

I can see it now... 4 years from now nobody will breed to your stud dog if it's not HTX100.

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I SEE ON THE WEB SITE THAT PA IS ADDING ALOT OF HUNT TESTS TO THE SCHEDULE. GLAD TO SEE IT.

I LIKE THEM. I ALSO LIKE THE HUNTS.

REMEMBER UKC HAS A CAST AT WORLD HUNT WHERE YOU HUNT ALONE. DO YOU THINK THEY COULD HAVE DONE THIS HTX THING ON PURPOSE?

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Being able to tree a coon makes a dog a coondog?

I don't know what you guys are used to hunting but im not going to feed a dog (except pups etc...) if it can't tree coon consistently.

There is a biggggggg difference between a dog that trees coon and a real coondog.

There is no doubt that there are grntch dogs that aren't the best coondogs. I've owned a couple. But you don't make a dog a grntch at 12 months old by not being able to tree a coon, bottom line.

All of you guys with all this wisdom about how the nite hunts really are and how many crap dogs there are in them make me wonder. How many hunts do you actually go too? I've been to literally hundreds and have failed to see the huge numbers of junk dogs, me too dogs, and mean dogs that gets beat to death on this board.

Bottom line is, a coonhound that can tree a coon in an hour shouldn't be celebrated. Its not a big deal.. its a dog doing what its bred to do. But to each his own, I would rather practice through the week and prove my dog can tree coon when there is something at stake.

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I, personally, like the idea of the Hunt Tests. I feel like they are an excellent oportunity for older hunters that don't want to slow casts down, for newcomer's to get a feel for the sport, and for pups to get their feet wet traveling somewhere diff to hunt with a judge, ect.

Also for example, I have a "show" bred Redbone. Is she on her way to treeing coons ? Yes, she's just a little over a year old and I like what she's showing me. Am I going to put my national level winning show dog in a hunt to possibly be chewed up ? That would be a HUGE NO, and that's my decision. Would I like her to have a title at the end of her name showing she can run & tree a coon in addition to everything else she does ? Yep, I would be very pleased to add HTX to the end of her name.

I'll be extremely proud of any of our hounds or any of their pups that achieve their HTX titles. That being said I wouldn't not breed to or buy a pup from dogs just because they don't have a HTX title.

We compete in ALOT of diff dog events. In addition to the bench shows & nite hunts we run field trials, water races, conformation shows, weight pulls, obedience trials, dock jumping contests, & competition hog bays. Anything our dogs want to do, we do it !! & they enjoy competing. Having a good time ourselves & bringing home a truckload of tired, happy dogs is what its all about for us.

Personally, I'll be happy with a HTX title. But if anyone wants to get more passes, more power to them and good luck !! It's all about enjoying the sport.

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well it for the dog when u go too the htx hunts u dnt have no one tryin to fight with u handlers think the hunts r for u and its nt its too show who has the better dog nt who i cn **** someone just too get a tittle on there dog

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Congrats to Vallen for another HTX win on Abe. It is truly inspirational what you and Abe are accomplishing, with Abe being 11 years old. I would rather see Abe being hunted by himself than being with other dogs that MIGHT get rough with him.

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HTX means a dog can tree his own coon. I would like to also see how many times a dog tried it to get the title, for example, a dog gets in his three hunts and gets a title. Another dog takes six hunts to make it. Start classifying the first title as HTX 3. The first dog would be HTX3/3. The second dog would be HTX 3 for 6.

Of course I would like to see how many hunts a dog is in to make NT CH but I reckon I'm opening a can of worms now.LOL

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