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Originally posted by l.lyle
Was it Old Yeller? Or Where the Red Fern Grows? In one of them the boys had an incling of where the coon was going, they just did not know how he did it. Those boys did not gain that insight by sitting their lazy buttocxes on the tailagate playing video games. Once they got enough dog pressure it all became clear.

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Where I hunt, I have to kill coons. Either do what I tell you or don't come back is what the manager says. I have beeen back for 30 years, Which proves I have no problems with following simple directives. I'm sorry the coonhunters before me Had their own Ideas but that is not my fault. I have not come close to running out of coons to kill yet. It's a big place and I do the best i can do.
However, They put tracking collars on BobWhite Quail. They put tracking collars on Eastern Diamond Backs. Tracking collars on Deer that helped in the research of dogs and deer further down the road. I don't guide casts there because ( you can bet your sweet bippy), I am gonna kill every coon me and my guest tree. I have been known to guide casts when push comes to shove ,like the Grand American. And had my boys hang out with their lights off trailing us to trees . then score them and get another one with another feller to do the same thing. THEN, when the time ran out on the hunt, I figured the hunt was over so therefore I could blow a horn after the hunt was over and the comp hunters had done hit the road and I would be leagle on both accounts. Don't you see? Then it was up to me for the rewarding of my incognito fellows to hang around, mosquito bit , and thirsty , till all the Comp hunters were gone , gone, gone,. But we managed. No coon was killed on a comp hunt and none of my guestes got me into trouble for not eventually killing coons. Ain't Life Wonderfull if you just use a little Common Sense?

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Originally posted by Chiggers
With a garmin you know where he went and how he did it.

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I used to run both together, and I finally learned to trust it, I sold my beep beep.

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I used to run both together, and I finally learned to trust it, I sold my beep beep.

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Lol lyle, nothin better watchin the garmin, next thing u know there 175 yrds out, and then wham straight line 450 smokin that whitetails a$$!!!!! Now thats the thrill of a garmin for me! Lol dog gets outa hearin but there movin that sucker, next thing ya know u better get into the truck and cut them off before they cross the section.

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Lol lyle, nothin better watchin the garmin, next thing u know there 175 yrds out, and then wham straight line 450 smokin that whitetails a$$!!!!! Now thats the thrill of a garmin for me! Lol dog gets outa hearin but there movin that sucker, next thing ya know u better get into the truck and cut them off before they cross the section.

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I dont need the garmin, thats not the point, its funny watchin the dog on the garmin chase crap. why be the blind guy listening, when u can watch the screen and listen to the dog at the same time?What a sense of humor u have gosh LOL!!! I like my liar pos dog. Lol

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I trust my Garmin. I won't turn loose without one. To me its better than a BEEPBEEP. I know for a fact its more convenient. As far as trusting that a dog is treed I don't. I know what it sounds like when my dog gets treed not what's on the screen.
l.lyle you need to change your handle to SPACECADET because I don't think anybody can make beans out of your posts.

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Well you used to kind of guess at Direction with beepbeep. Now you also know Distance. Sounds like you are narrowing down. Sounds like you are narrowing down two of the fifth dimensions LOL. Why would you prefer not to know where the coon is actually at at a given time in place? Why Why Why???? Either you desire to become a poet and don't yet knowit, or you want the thrill of a fox chase from the 1930's where a foxhound might scream a little dream for me with a briar in his crotch. Obviously I am not impressed. Even though I rely on my dogs toungue to tell me more than a Garmin ever could, I want to know if my dog got excited and failed or got excited and came to the forefront. I believe a Garmin on a coon would help very much in answering those questions. Given one, put the Garmin on the coon. In the best of both worlds put a Garmin on the coon and the dog scheduled in "real time".

Watch this thread fade away with no responses. Garmin, Answer how far along you are in this reseach or forever hold you piece when I put in my claim for having invented knowing where and when the coon is is necessary to keep limpwrists from spouting "feelings" and points and degrees and such so they can possibly "feelgood" about their dog.

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l.lyle - think putting collar on coon and dog both would be interesting, would give a history of the coons movements over a period of time. Just add a shock collar and turn it in to a video game to play off the tailgate !You would get a clue when the dog hit that den tree if he was going foward or backward on his trail !

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I trust my Garmin. I won't turn loose without one. To me its better than a BEEPBEEP. I know for a fact its more convenient. As far as trusting that a dog is treed I don't. I know what it sounds like when my dog gets treed not what's on the screen.
l.lyle you need to change your handle to SPACECADET because I don't think anybody can make beans out of your posts.

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Hunting a wide ranger like Bellar's Lumber with a soft tree mouth, My Garmin is a must. I dubble check my battery supply often and make sure collar is charge. Lots of times I watch him track when i can't here him in there. You right don't turn him loose without the DC-40 collar on him. My Grandson Said he would LIKE to be able to see Lumber hunt from a plane in day light he covers so much ground extremely fast. HOOKED MY GARMIN!!

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Hunting a wide ranger like Bellar's Lumber with a soft tree mouth, My Garmin is a must. I dubble check my battery supply often and make sure collar is charge. Lots of times I watch him track when i can't him here he there. You right don't turn him loose with the DC-40 collar on him.

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The soft tree mouth makes the garmin a must but I hunt him close to some farms other people won't hunt with loud mouth dogs won't and since I am more a kill season hunter Garmin and Lumber is my type of hunting.

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I think its rather sad that I feel the need to stare at a screen while Im hunting.

Having said that...My garmin has saved me countless hours of sleep and headaches....I simply dont have those later-than-planned nights looking for a dog treed out of pocket anymore.

I have probably learned as much about what my dog is doing from the garmin as I have in years of hunting without one.

Some of these posts are laughable, Its pretty obvious some either dont hunt much or have no clue.

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I would rather have a Garmin and a good dog than have a beep beep system and a great dog. In my neck of the woods where coons are thin and the dogs have to hunt deep most of the time and houses everywhere, highways, yard dogs, posted land, and cut over. You cannot beat a Garmin. I have only had mine about a year and a half and I cannot count how many times I got home by midnight instead of 6 or 7 in the morning all because of the garmin. I have a BAD sense of direction in the woods, we don't have many coons and hunting places are VERY VERY hard to find . The garmin is the best thing since biscuits.

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Well when Bellar's Treated Lumber winds a coon and goes 700 to 800 yds silent to find it(most the time it's windy here), it's a must. Didn't have Lumber or garmin last kill season I can't wait for Nov 8, 2011. I use google earth to plan my hunts and use the feature to measure the distance from the woods I want to turn in to the nearest house. Mark that woods on my truck garmin and go there. Can mark a woods anywhere. I have hunted so many woods I have never seen except on my puter! (*_*) I will add Lumber will be Two years old in NOV.
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l lyle bring you out a few thousand cage traps and the same amount of modified garmin tracking collars to fit the coon. We will try your idea out in my thick coon test area. I have a spot that probably has 50 coon per acre. How many handhelds can you carry at one time? You can track the coon and I will track my dog.

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That's why I wrote the paragragh about killing coons and the manager even putting trackers on quail. By January I can get the coons thinned down to a workable level here. In your case with 50 coons per acre there is no excuse for a dog to get out of a 208 feet by 208 feet square area. You ought to be able to keep up with a dog by listening to his feet in the dry leaves. LOL. Of course, if you have a dog to run past several hundred coons to get in another county then I reckon you still need the Garmin to track your dog. I think it would work wonders for the fellows in N GA that only have about ten coons in the whole county so they say. They could get to their hunting area and crank up the video to see if a coon on the club was walking or just producing a "deadbird" signal. Then they could drive to within a hundred yards of where the coon crossed 18 minutes and 25 seconds ago and see if their dog could take that cold of a track. LOL

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That's why I wrote the paragragh about killing coons and the manager even putting trackers on quail. By January I can get the coons thinned down to a workable level here. In your case with 50 coons per acre there is no excuse for a dog to get out of a 208 feet by 208 feet square area. You ought to be able to keep up with a dog by listening to his feet in the dry leaves. LOL. Of course, if you have a dog to run past several hundred coons to get in another county then I reckon you still need the Garmin to track your dog. I think it would work wonders for the fellows in N GA that only have about ten coons in the whole county so they say. They could get to their hunting area and crank up the video to see if a coon on the club was walking or just producing a "deadbird" signal. Then they could drive to within a hundred yards of where the coon crossed 18 minutes and 25 seconds ago and see if their dog could take that cold of a track. LOL

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There where coon hunters before competition hunters jack. Dogs are easy to here in open country! 50 coon per acre, sure ant here if so farmers would pay bounty on them too

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Some of the things on this thread kinda Reminds me of Daddy. We miss him dearly. Best Daddy a son could have. But anyway, I remember when I got my first beep beep tracking system. Dad checked it out and here's what he said .................. " this thing is really overpriced. The technology is really really not that high tech. What would be REALLY nice though is if you had a tracking device that both the dog and the coon wore and you could actually watch the coon race on a screen and see the dog tracking the coon ".

Now, keep in mind he said this around 2001 or 2002 and neither one of us had ever heard the word "garmin" before. Also, about 15 or 20 years ago, daddy told me "son one day, you will be able to go to walmart and the grocery store and check yourself out and ring up your OWN groceries ". He worked for NCR for 38 years. I laughed at him then too. Years later, there it is. I miss him dearly. My hunting buddy.

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I miss hunting with my Dad and him telling me don't burn yo self with that light boy. carbide light

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Some of these posts are laughable, Its pretty obvious some either dont hunt much or have no clue.

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