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One of the hardest dogs to beat that I hunted with was a straight line hunter that never came back, I saw her go more than 10 miles many times, I turned her loose several times that I knew she was smelling a coon when I released her just to wait about 6 minutes for her to strike a mile deep, she broke me from demanding a socalled deep hunting dog.

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Or have an imprint of a toyota symbol on it's side when it gets whacked crossing roads. I dont like that kinda dog either. It limits where you can hunt, and even when you can hunt. For me, I enjoy walking out with the dogs...hearing the strike, the trail, and the change over to tree. My idea of fun isn't going back to the truck and driving around until you track them down and walk into a barking dog on a tree. I miss all the good part when that happens. I've actually never had one, but if I had a dog that would go out 200 or 300 yards max from me and never be gone more than 20 minutes I'd actually hunt more. I cant take the chance of being out all night on a work night. That's just what I like...not saying it's right or wrong ...but I sure would ike to find one like that. Actually, I may have found it...we'll see lol.

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Originally posted by burdette
my black dogs tree coon as they come across them. it could be 50 yds or 3 miles away. thats the way i like them!!!

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Most roads here in my area are one mile apart and now that i have started hunting again and with my new world champion pups i wonder how long they will live if they hunt like their Sir's.

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Well, where Im from there are roads every mile... highways are always close. Its the chance you take but if big hunting is a trait in the pups you are working it will cause more harm than good to change that. You dont always end up with exactly what you want. Personally I love a big hunting dog. I am very careful where I turn them but thats what I enjoy hunting. Ive had a couple hit on the road. Its not a good feeling but I've seen more dogs hit on old gravel roads with hardly any traffic than I have on the paved roads surrounding me. Bottom line is, when you freecast a hound you are taking a chance whether its in a 100,000 acre state forest or a 10 acre patch.

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I like for my dogs to run the first coon they come across and tree it. Could be 30 yards could be 2 miles. I want my dog to go as deep as it takes, I DO NOT WANT MY DOG TO COME BACK, some people do and I understand, but I want to get mine off the tree some where. We have no patches of woods where I hunt, it's all WOODS. I have permission to hunt about everywhere I go, but there are times where I've had to ask permission. I don't have to worry about my dogs getting hit if they get deep but it could happen. Anything can happen, it's a risk you take every time you go hunting.

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Old guy once said to me "Do you want to hunt with your dogs or for your dogs?" Took me a while to figure that out, but after climbing mountains 2 or 3 times a hunt, I decided I wanted to hunt WITH my dogs, not for them.

My male is what I would call a patch dog, but if need be, he will go further, just never really had the need to do so, he can tree coon in the 67 acres we hunt on every night and we don't have to walk that far. We have 100's of acres open to us to hunt, a new place every night if we want, we just stick to what we know works for us and will save us the extra walking time when they tree.

Knock on wood....we have never lost a dog to the road and hope to keep it that way.

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My bojangles dog hunts out close and goes as far as he needs......but that doesn't make him a super hard hunter. Sometimes he does. Sometimes he don't. You never know where your gona find him.

He Does not and never does come back unless he can hear me......hen spoils meafter having a goooo yonder dog. But I still prefer the go yonder hound. There is somethin about Deep and Lonely every drop with a coon that attracts me.

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I know I'm the minority but.....
In our area a true go yonder type dog would create issues I'm not crazy about dealing with. The areas we can hunt are shrinking at an incredible rate. In the past few years I have been charged for no written permission which turned into over 200 dollars in fines, a court appearance, 10 days suspended sentence, and 6 months probation. I had a gun held to my head when attempting to retrieve my dogs. I have also had a dog shot and dumped under a bridge in a black trash bag along with 2 other hounds who belonged to others. To this point I know of 14 other dogs missing in this area.
Times they are a changing and what I want in a dog is changing with it.....
I want a dog that will hunt out, find a track, finish the track (don't be offended) silently, get treed, stay treed, and shut up when I get to the tree. He also needs to respond to tone instantly and I don't want to use a lead.

I know there are hounds out there who would fit the bill but I have not had the opportunity to hunt with them. That's why I have and will countinue to hunt curdawgs and enjoy them as much as I can for as long as I can. The way things are in our area....I'm just not sure how long that may be.

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You can hunt what you chose to hunt theres nothing wrong with that. Unfortunatly you can't hunt where you want. you are so right about hunting areas shrinking very fast. I try to offer land owners a hand at some work of some sort if their property is important to me.

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What do you mean by that?

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You can hunt what you chose to hunt theres nothing wrong with that. Unfortunatly you can't hunt where you want. you are so right about hunting areas shrinking very fast. I try to offer land owners a hand at some work of some sort if their property is important to me.

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give it another 10 yrs and those of us that are still able to hunt may be hunting jack russells or tacobell dogs,lol

carry them to the coffieshop in your coat pocket,lol

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Deep and Lonely types win some hunts, but too many that are deep and lonely actually jealous and hot nosed pop up tree dogs.

I want a dog that goes as deep as it needs to, but if I'm consistently driving around to cut it off on a road or driving around because it is always getting too far out of pocket, I'm going to find something else to hunt.

Close and lonely can win some hunts too. Give me a dog that hunts the woods I put it in whether 20 acre patch or a 300 acre river bottom or valley of hardwoods. It it has the ability to show me coons consistently without getting out of pocket, yet still independent enough to win some hunts, I'll take that kind any night.

Thank the Lord we have Garmins. It sure shows the true style of how a dog is getting it done.

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all my dogs are big woods dogs that will go deep but then again they also hunt patch woods to and i have no problems with them at all if a coon is there they are gonna tree it, if they went 5 miles deep it would not bother me, but they dont go that far. they go as far as they have to. my dogs run the first track they come across no matter if its hot or cold.

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I like a dog that is smart enough to adapt to the areas hunted. I had an AKC AFC MH GSP female that was this type of dog. I could mount a horse and she'd run 1/2 mile ahead in a field trial. I could walk hunt the thickest nastiest woodcock and grouse covers and she'd be 30 yards in front pointing birds.

I like my coon hounds the same. When hunting patch woods I expect them to hunt it thoroughly not run straight through it. When hunting big timber I expect them to go until they find game.

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we like ours to hunt out 20 to 40 minutes and then come back. we don't always have the opportunity to drive around like alot of folks do in the block woods type terrain. around here if your dog gets deep.......you most likely will not hear him.......don't care how loud he/she is. if they get over two or three big ridges.......most likely the hour will get you, every time. if you have a dog that will not honor other dogs and has to be by himself.....then by the time he gets under his own coon........he is most likely so far away and around and over ridges that the hour will get him in that situation too.

I guess I would rather hunt a patch type dog.

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we like ours to hunt out 20 to 40 minutes and then come back. we don't always have the opportunity to drive around like alot of folks do in the block woods type terrain. around here if your dog gets deep.......you most likely will not hear him.......don't care how loud he/she is. if they get over two or three big ridges.......most likely the hour will get you, every time. if you have a dog that will not honor other dogs and has to be by himself.....then by the time he gets under his own coon........he is most likely so far away and around and over ridges that the hour will get him in that situation too.

I guess I would rather hunt a patch type dog.

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How about both? Hunts out 20-30 min, comes by and gives you a muligan. Pick him up and move then or let them continue and they get very deep.

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deep with the meat or hunt close n tree the most different dogs for diff areas is way i look at it

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deep with the meat or hunt close n tree the most different dogs for diff areas is way i look at it

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mine to hunt his way deep, he doesnt get 2 miles in 5 minutes, so he doesnt just straight line out, very few coon where i live so most of the time he ends up deep with a coon. But then again he is a walker and I promise u if u dump him down a road he is gone!LOL!! you have to keep him in the woods.

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What are these "patch woods" u gentlemen speak of? We have patch woods here in NW Alabama, but it's 40-50 acres of hardwoods, then a couple hundred cutover, then maybe 75 acres of hardwoods, followed by 3-400 acres of set-out pines, and on & on & on... A few big bottoms, but mostly small creeks, beaver ponds, & ditches scattered amongst a bunch of roughness. These small patches might hold 3-4 coons, or just 1, & sometimes none cause he's left it to go across through the rough crap to get to the next patch of woods. If I turn-out & tree a coon 100-150yds deep, I realize it maybe 1/2 mile before there's another coon to get under. If they're gonna win here or live with me then they better learn how to tree me as many coons as they can, as fast as they can.

If I had small patches of hardwoods that are loaded-down with the kinda numbers of coons y'all talk about, then I'd get rid of everything but my Mountain Cur, & coonhunt just like I squirrel hunt. Until then, give me a dog that has treeing a coon, & treeing a coon ONLY on his mind!

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i hunt anything from 50 acre blocks to 60,000 acres of woods and i use the same dogs no problems at all

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I like for mine to hunt patch woods..I got patches of woods from 400ac to 28,000ac..I excpect mine to hunt these patches out I got one that hunts about 15 to 20 min and makes it 300 to 400 yards...Shes forsale..That dont begin to be deep enough to tree coon around here.

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I like for mine to hunt patch woods..I got patches of woods from 400ac to 28,000ac..I excpect mine to hunt these patches out I got one that hunts about 15 to 20 min and makes it 300 to 400 yards...Shes forsale..That dont begin to be deep enough to tree coon around here.

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