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mike aylesworth
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Registered: Jul 2003
Location: columbus,ny
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I would like to see:

Rocky ( Ask the people who know about it.
He lost a lot of casts because Rev. Moore was a wealthy black man in a predominantly white man's sport. This dog was one of the best hounds ever.)

Boyd's Little Joe ( Competitors went to great lengths just to try and keep this dog from making it to the hunts.)

Tree Spike ( This dog did most of his winning before most dogs are even in the hunts.)

Main St. Roy ( Still going strong and winning a very high % of his casts. And go ahead and tell me how he doesn't have to have + points. Any dog that wins that many casts is treeing a few coons. And like Tree Spike, he is very young.)

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hatchett
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Registered: Apr 2004
Location: zephyr tx
Posts: 97

suprised to see thunder j.r.on her just once i had heard he was super nice

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Driveshaft
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Registered: Dec 2003
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 2962

what about

BATES BLUE CASH
SMITHS HARDTIME ROCKY
VANZANTS SAM
HAYES HARDTIME SPECK

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Englishdog1
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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: Lawrence, Michigan
Posts: 167

Dream cast

1. Boyds Little Joe
2. Nicely's Black Face Red
3. Wilcox's Thunder Bingo
4. Bates Blue Kash

I am lucky enough to have hunted with most of Larry Wilcox's Dogs during the past 20 years, I have hunted with Black Face Red(a world hunt final four dog), and wish I could have hunted with Little Joe and Kash, as they both have blood running through my dogs veins. (all four dogs are in my dogs pedigree)

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Randy Holtmeyer
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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: Iberia, MO
Posts: 577

Past:

Vanzant's Sam
Maggard's Hot Shot II
Smith's Hardtime Rocky
Beasher's Blue Boy II

Current:

Herd's Barder Creek Ace
Moore's Hardtime Rocky II
Stono River Lucky
Southeastern's Lost River Stoney

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Leonard Bishop
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Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Blacksburg Va.
Posts: 258

Tell me something about the black face red dog.I hear he is for real

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Bill Britt
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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: North Carolina
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Beech River Sputnik
Neuse River Dooley
Neuse River Dooley II
Neuse River Wild Willie

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Driveshaft
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Registered: Dec 2003
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 2962

dont know much about english

hounds but i know a guy that hunted against bates blue cash, absolutely the quickest tree dog he ever drew in a hunt . never took anything other than first tree. this is comin from a die hard walker man so i think he wasnt jokin.

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Nathaniel Powel
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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: Randolph, VA.
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Cast from past

Rocky
Redman
Hillbilly Mike
Hardtime Speck

Nat Powell

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Doug Robinson
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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: Warsaw, New York
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Southern Style

I don't get into these pissing matches cause there were just too many nice English Dogs that were gooduns.

But one thing I wuill tell you is Va. SwampRooster didn't hold a candle to Michigan Swamp Rooster. Not just on hearsay either.

I recall a few years back in 1999 when Wyatt Wright owned Va Rooster, Michigan Rooster , and Longs Crossroad Dan all at the same time he was advertising all three in the Bloodlines. The pic he advertised Va Rooster showed him on the back of a blue pickup truck with 9 coon layed across the tailgate. The gentleman that took the picture told me that another dog had treed all nine coon the night before and they just posed Va Rooster with them.
Ask Wyatt or anyone else that hunted both dogs they will agree.

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Leonard Bishop
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If i remember correctley Trip My Trigger treed those coon.Came from the HORSES MOUTH.

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English Rule
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Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Gadsden, AL
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Heres my 2 cents!

Past Favorites
1)Jolliffe's Cujo
2)Raffles Billie Jo
3)Hardtime Rocky
4)Tenbrooks Blue Queen
5)Wilcox Thunder Bingo
Present (Alabama dogs)
1)Webbs Hobo
2)Wades Shinbone Ridge Red Hot Cocoa
3)" " " Blue Moon
4)Elrods Hardtime Blue
5)Creek Bottom High Bawl

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heidimarty
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I hope he can hunt Doug.. I have a pup that has Mich as a grand sire on top and Virginia as a grand sire on bottom.

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engman99
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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: Indiana
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All time greatest cast ever alive,dead,or in between.

Boyds Little Joe.

Mad Marge.(won PKC world back around 98. Gayle drew her at English days in 98 and I spectated on the cast.She looked good that night.)

Houdini.

Bashams Sue.( I am a little ashamed to see nobody has mentioned Sue yet.Come on ya'll! She won big at Autumn Oaks 3 years in a row,got hit by a car,layed up a year,then came back and won big again on 3 legs and 1 eye.Talk about True Grit!)

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Rusty Johnson
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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: IL.
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Ultimate english cast would be 4 dogs that I own,then maybe I could finally win one!......LOL
Be my luck they'd all minus out and i'd still loose!

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Leonard Bishop
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Location: Blacksburg Va.
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Had two or three dogs in the past that had old sue in their ped.Good ones.

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DAVY FREEMAN
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Registered: Jul 2004
Location: COLLINS MO.
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GRNTCH KELLER'S MIKE
GRNTCH BOYD'S LITTLE JOE
GRNTCH WOODSTOCK RED MAN
GRNTCH DICKEY'S OLD SANDY
MIKE IS IN THE ENGLISH HALL OF FAME AND THREW SEVERAL GRNTCH'S. MOST ANY OF THE LOCAL HUNTERS YOU ASK IN MY AREA WILL STILL TO THIS DAY TELL YOU MIKE WAS THE GREATEST TRACK DOG THEY EVER HUNTED WITH. IN ONE SUMMER IN THE LATE 60'S OR EARLY 70'S WON 19 GRNTCH HUNTS WITH COMP. AND WAS NEVER BEATEN. THE LOCAL LEGEND AND YARD STICK FOR ALL HOUNDS SINCE.

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Tim Hoeck
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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: South Dakota
Posts: 762

How come nobody said anything about Lumis for males and 2x World champ in the same year Buffalo Creek Patch for the females ? I am curious as why nobody picked them as i do know theres not alot of this blood around.
Tim Hoeck

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chip wisecup
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Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Iowa
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current male cast:
All Grand Dan
Main Street Roy
Briar Creek Rat Poison
Briar Creek Zeb

I could name Jesse Adkins' Thunder dog, the Casper Dog, Wilcoxs' Thunder Blue, and others but I have already hunted with them. It is always nice to hunt with these male dogs and see them first hand. We can all read about them on the computer or in the magazines, but there is one good way to form your own opinion about them.... turn em loose... !!!!

Past male cast:

Briar Creek Bush Hog
Wilcoxs' Thunder J.r
Boyds' Little Joe
Beashers Blue Boy II

Current Female cast:

Timber Valley Ten
Briar Creek Patches
Timber Valley Queen
Thompsons Babe
I have hunted with all of these females many nights and it is my DREAM cast..... I would love to turn any one of these females loose .

Past Female Cast

Northridge Willies Jo Jo
Timber Valley Lucky
Northridge Rock Run Zee Zee
Timber Valley Old Bell

As you can see many of these hounds are on the reproducers list, and to me that is the important part of our sport. If we don't produce champions to carry on... we aren't improving our breed.
The reason I put Timber Valley Old Bell on here with these reproducing females is because I followed her many nights and it would be fun to have John tag along on this cast. lol

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COONDOG
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I hear ya on that Tim. Lumis, Blue, Patch, Blue Kash, Meek's John, Old Sandy, indian creek Wendy, Jr,Old Sonny, just to name a few.

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J.J Melin
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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: Monticello Indiana
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Past Males
1.Briar Creek Houdini
2.Briar Creek Snake
3.Briar Creek Max Million
4.blue grass amos

Past Females
1.Dickey's Old Sandy
2.Northridge Willy's Jojo
3.Briar Creek Sandy II
4.Cabin Creek Pukin

Current Males
1.Briar Creek huck-a-buck
2.Briar Creek Zeb
3.Cabin Creek Rowdy
4.All Grand Casper

Current Females

1.Timber Valley Ten
2.Briar Creek Patches
3.Timber Valley Queen
4.Briar Creek Misty

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Southern Style
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Who out there has a good concentration of Lumis blood?

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Tyler Benedict
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get ahold of dave rude. he has an ad in the classifieds. Goes by coondog.

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Timber Ridge
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Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Gobles Michigan
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Leonard Bishop

Your question on Black Face Red: He is owned by Charles Nicely of Lawrence Michigan.
Red is quick strike, open mouthed track dog, quick, hard tree dog. He is very accurate and a reproducer. (as I said, my dog is out of Red)
Red was in the finals of the world hunt 4 years ago I think.
You won't meet a man more honest than Charles. Give him a call and ask about Red if you might consider him in your breeding program.
Reds breeding goes to Wilcox Thunder Kennels on the top side, and to Nicely's breeding (about 30 years of COONDOGS on the bottom side)

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BIG N RICH
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Davy Freeman

Heard alot about Kellers MIKE. Some said he was the best dog they were ever in the woods with. You hunt with him any? If so what did you think of him?

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