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pamjohnson
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i used opossum scent to break one it worked great. that was after i tried almost everything else that was mentioned.maybe it was all of them combined. but she still treed them till i used the scent.

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gladerunkennels
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Originally posted by Justin Smith
It boils down to the dog understanding what you want ... and know he has no choice but to give it to you ...


Folks can mess up and still get that point across to the dog ... which kinda makes the dog smarter than his trainer ... it happens alot , lol.

As a general rule ... dog behavior and this issue have long since been ironed out ... the main things that apply are :



Consistency - if it's ok to trail them , why isn't it ok to tree them ? The dog has to know it's not ok to trail them , tree them , look at them or think about it ... dogs can't understand why it's only bad some of the time .


Never .. ever , ever !!! Ever !! .... shoot or handle game you don't want your dog to chase ... they cannot understand why their master wants a possum but then gets mad when they find them one ... it's beyond a dog's understanding and it's an old school , foundational philosophy that has been proven for hundreds of years.


Punishment - dogs are still dogs ... the can't understand English , electricity or clubs ... those or human punishments that make sense to us . When you do those things to a dog ... they panic and cannot reason , think or remember what happend afterwards .

Punishment has to revolve around non-adrenaline rush methods that a dog undertands .... typically top trainers use "scruffing or choking' type punishment that mimic what the pack leader does to keep the pack in order ... dogs respond to it and can remember it ... unlike most blitzes of clubs , hollering or shocking.

Which is also why the e-collar true experts preach the low settings ... and hardly or never the high settings that actually blitz a dog ...


Memory - dogs and people tend to remember the highlights and ending minutes of a lesson .. so keep training short and sweet ... go home when you get your point across or you will bump it out with new information and the lesson is lost.

Also ... it takes time for short term memory to be moved to long term ... the term ' sleep on it " comes from this understanding.

Give a short lesson ... go home and sleep on it .. pick up again the next time .. that is science and pysiology at work.


If you implement these basics into your training in the way that best fits you and your dog ... you'll get stuff done and things will be less frustrating.





Well Said!

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im old school if 1 get's to tree a possum i get 1 out and beat it with the thing till dog think's he gonna die always work for me jmo

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shadinc
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treeing possums

Too many people think if they hurt a dog bad enough, he will stop whatever he's doing at the time. Repetition is the key. That's how dogs learn. If high voltage was the answer, we could put our collars on high, tell the dog to sit, then "burn his head off" and he would be trained sit for the rest of his life. You're probably not going to break a dog from anything in one lesson. If you make it unpleasant for him to tree possums, enough times, he will get the message.

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I shock mine 1 time when he grab 1.i thank it ran all the way threw the dog and brought the possum back to life.

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When he trees one knock it out to him, tie him back, use a double lead strap, cut a hole in possum foot, use one side for dog , one for possum, walk the dog with possum hitting, on his neck, bump the shock collar, when u get back to your truck, leave possum on lead strap going home, bump it while u are going home. no more possum dog........ need more help call me at 336 399 1427.

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I shock mine 1 time when he grab 1.i thank it ran all the way threw the dog and brought the possum back to life.


that is freaking hilarious!

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recon
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More than likely, whipping a dog at a tree for treeing a opossum will not stop him from treeing them. It will simply keep him from being caught under a tree with a opossum in it.

If you use this method you will probably start having your dog get treed, and leaving when he knows you are close. You can bet those trees had opossums in them.

You may want to have your dog checked for the tick diseases. Have a buddy whose old dog started treeing opossums out of the blue. Went and had him checked and found he had a tick disease.

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Shoot it out cook it make him eat it every day till he won't eat it no more my mom made me eat canned hominy every day I can't even stand to look at the stuff worked on me !!! Lol

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Alot of posts in this thread need to be deleted...

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