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we also fed that retriever over the summer and the coon dogs was getting hot spots, and i was told it was because of the food ,so we went to diamond naturals chicken and rice and they all went away. beagless did good on it, but you can feed them anything.

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Hate to break it to everyone, but most the feed we feed our dogs is Junk according to someone.

You have the people who say no corn is best, but I have researched where most vets agree Corn is 99% digestible and if dogs get allergies its most likely caused by beef or wheat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If the feed youre feeding works for you, by all means feed it.

I got in trouble last year for saying hi-standard and ultra and joy was the same feed, yes Wade called me. Problem is noone denied it!! Like I stated last year, look up ultra 26-18, Joy 26-18, hi-standard 26-18 then compare ingredients!! They all read the same, and are all manufactured by PRO-PET in st.Marys, OHIo, but I'm suppoesed to be stupid and not put that together and expect, owners of these companies to call and BULLY me.

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you said it, everyone has a different opinion. and yes feed what your dog looks good on. i just wish i find one soon. seems like every time you find one they raise the price so high you cant afford it.

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i was just wondering if anyone was having badluck with it

that normally was satisfied with it. i was o.k. with the 26/18 (not saying it was best but atleast o.k. for the$$) but the last batch which(josh) came from st. naz. a couple months ago

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Ummmm........

If you have been through a dozen feeds trying to find atleast one that makes your dogs look good or perform well, I hate to break it to you but chances are it isn't the feed that ain't doing the job. There is more to feeding than simply tossing a coffee can full of kibble in a feed pan. When guys can't seem to find one that works, most likely it is a result of them not being as knowledgeable about their dogs as they think they are. Those who shift from one junk feed to the next, I get a kick out of. Those who have their act together as houndsmen and the owners of performance dogs aren't on here asking about feed. If you are not achieving the synergistic effect of the performance aspects and biochemistry, you will never find a feed that works, only one that is destined to be changed again in a month. One junk formula to the next.

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yea cause they are so much smarter then the rest of us right, more like they dont give a **** what they feed ...get real

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Re: i was just wondering if anyone was having badluck with it

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that normally was satisfied with it. i was o.k. with the 26/18 (not saying it was best but atleast o.k. for the$$) but the last batch which(josh) came from st. naz. a couple months ago
ronald dont know if they sale it in your area or not try the prime made by red flannel its 26 percent protien 18 per fat they also sell adult mantince that is a little lower in fat and protien for when you not hunting them hard but i feed the prime all year but i only have 3 beagles left sold my hounds due to health problems lot less clean up thight stools

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Dog Food

I have fed most of them listed on here, In my thoughts, the Diamond 24/20, Ol'Roy, Pride, Joy, Hi-Standard, Sexton Brothers, Ultra Advantage, Red Flannel, Retriever, etc, etc,......Are ALL a lower grade dog food than regular old Purina Dog Chow, I would rather feed Dog Chow than ANY of these.

If you want a better dog food, you have to pay the price, but in the long run you spend less and your hounds will look, and perform alot better, and you will have 3/4 less clean up in your pen.

I feed Purina One and Diamond Extreme Athelete, they work for my dogs,...........just feed what you can afford, and something your dogs like........................Tim

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I fed diamond hi energy and cleaned out the pen 3 times a day. I have only one dog at a time and it looked like there were 3 dogs in there. I went to diamond naturals after one back of hi energy was dryed out (almost white) and the next smelt rank. Naturals cut down cleaning the pen to one time. Her coat seemed to look a little better and performance did not change. She started getting a little heavy so I reduced the amount I feed. After cutting back a little, the 40 lb bag will last one dog about 7 1/2 weeks. Normal cost is $31 and is on sale alot for $29. They were out last time I needed feed so I got the diamond extreme for $34 for 40 lbs. The bag says to feed less than the naturals. Just started feeding it so I can't say much yet.

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yea cause they are so much smarter then the rest of us right, more like they dont give a **** what they feed ...get real


That must be it. Numbnuts.

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I fed diamond hi energy and cleaned out the pen 3 times a day. I have only one dog at a time and it looked like there were 3 dogs in there. I went to diamond naturals after one back of hi energy was dryed out (almost white) and the next smelt rank. Naturals cut down cleaning the pen to one time. Her coat seemed to look a little better and performance did not change. She started getting a little heavy so I reduced the amount I feed. After cutting back a little, the 40 lb bag will last one dog about 7 1/2 weeks. Normal cost is $31 and is on sale alot for $29. They were out last time I needed feed so I got the diamond extreme for $34 for 40 lbs. The bag says to feed less than the naturals. Just started feeding it so I can't say much yet.


I too have alot of mess to clean up. Hows the extreme working? Price doesnt really matter to me as long as the dogs like it and it keeps them fat and slick. My biggest problem is finding a feed that a store doesnt quit carryn after a couple months. I used to feed black gold but i can no longer find it around here. I tried Iams Eukanuba but that feed tore my hounds stomachs up!

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prime by red flannel

i pay 32dollars for a 50lb bag of prime but i feed less and my dogs stay fat and has lots of energy i can feed 1-1/2 cups to my beagles in running season they stay plenty fat maybe a little to fat summer i cut them back to 1 cup they stay just as fat but everyone on here has there own opion i want the best for my dogs if it gets to where i cant feed them right and keep them in good health i will give them to soneone that will give them a good home and right care not saying folks on here dont care for thier dogs like they should just what i would do if i coundnt care for my dogs like i think they need

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I too have alot of mess to clean up. Hows the extreme working? Price doesnt really matter to me as long as the dogs like it and it keeps them fat and slick. My biggest problem is finding a feed that a store doesnt quit carryn after a couple months. I used to feed black gold but i can no longer find it around here. I tried Iams Eukanuba but that feed tore my hounds stomachs up!


I've only been feeding the extreme for 3 days now but i fed the diamond naturals chicken and rice for a year and It is far better than the diamond hi energy. I'll let you know about the extreme in few weeks. I'm not sure i will keep feeding it when I run out of this bag. 32% protein might be too much. I'm going to do some research to better understand about it.

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I've only been feeding the extreme for 3 days now but i fed the diamond naturals chicken and rice for a year and It is far better than the diamond hi energy. I'll let you know about the extreme in few weeks. I'm not sure i will keep feeding it when I run out of this bag. 32% protein might be too much. I'm going to do some research to better understand about it.


Yeah I hear alotta folks say that alot of protien will burn a dog up. Diamond dog food is just easy for me to get around here. I may try the sportdog feed and maybe even the Hi tech rations feed that tractor supply carries. they do carry some purina feed but the switch it out so much its hard to get the same kind from week to week.

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i feed diamond extreme athlete or pro plan its higher but a good food exspecially when your huntin your dogs hard.

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just wanted to let you know if you feed enhance dog food, that the company has sold out and the new owner is changing the recipe and the bag size. The dealer that carried it is not going to carry it any moore due to the changes.

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I had heard they were only changing the rice they use in it who knows. And they are putting it in a different bag and the price is going up about $7.00 a bag according to the guy I was getting it from. So sick of finding something that works and is easy to get and then the idiots decide to change everything.

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just wanted to let you know if you feed enhance dog food, that the company has sold out and the new owner is changing the recipe and the bag size. The dealer that carried it is not going to carry it any moore due to the changes.

The recipe only changed on the Hunter's Edge 24/18 they made a premium and a regular.The premium reads better,the regular looks like junk.Thanks to partnered with ducks unlimited the price jumped dramatically. Karl

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Enhanced has been with ducks unlimited dads pet czre out of pennsylvania bought them out the professsional athlete is a really good feed even if it goes up 7 a bag its, still probally cheaper too feec than alot of the other junk feeds

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I am going to stick with it. I really like it just ticks me off I am only feeding one dog so it isnt so bad.

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My dogs are actually looking decent on the Diamond 24/20, but the kennel clean up is ridiculous.
Especially on my male. I clean kennels every single day. Everyday when I show up it looks like it has been 3-4 days since I've been there. My male looks like his kennel ain't been cleaned in a week. He seems to have a sensitive gut or something anyway, he was the reason I switched to this feed thinking he'd do well on it. It ain't worked out that way and I'll be switching soon.
Condition wise, they look fine. But I'm tired of shoveling dog crap and they're burning through the food faster than they should be.

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Re: enhance dog food

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just wanted to let you know if you feed enhance dog food, that the company has sold out and the new owner is changing the recipe and the bag size. The dealer that carried it is not going to carry it any moore due to the changes.


I fed Enhance till they changed it ,,the place I got my feed from Burkman Mills bought the original recipe from Enhance ,and is now making it by the brand name FORMAX. It looks just like the old enhance feed ,and I'm getting good results from the feed. It cost 19.99 plus tax for 50 lb here in central ky.

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try HIGH STANDARD DOG FOOD AVALIBLE AT CPC COMMODITIES MY DOGS LOOK GREAT LOTS OF ENERGY AND NEVER GET TIRED RUN ALLNIGHT FEED UR DOGS GOOD ENERGY PRODUCING FOOD I LIKE PREFORMANCE NOT SICKNESS HOME OF MOJO JOJO AND MOJOS HARD KNOCKING SWAMP DONKEY

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Rating:

Diamond Naturals dog food receives the Advisorfs second-highest rating of four stars.

The Diamond Naturals product line includes 12 dry dog foodsc seven designed to meet AAFCO nutrient profiles for all life stages and five for adult maintenance.

¡Diamond Naturals Small Breed Adult Chicken and Rice
¡Diamond Naturals Lamb Meal and Rice Lite (3 stars)
¡Diamond Naturals Small Breed Adult Lamb and Rice
¡Diamond Naturals Large Breed Lamb and Rice
¡Diamond Naturals Lamb Meal and Rice Adult
¡Diamond Naturals Beef Meal and Rice Adult
¡Diamond Naturals Large Breed 60+ Adult
¡Diamond Naturals Chicken and Rice Adult
¡Diamond Naturals Senior 8+ Formula
¡Diamond Naturals Large Breed Puppy
¡Diamond Naturals Small Breed Puppy
¡Diamond Naturals Extreme Athlete
Diamond Naturals Small Breed Adult Lamb and Rice Formula was selected to represent the others in the line for this review.


Diamond Naturals Small Breed Adult Lamb and Rice
Dry Dog Food

Estimated Dry Matter Nutrient Content



Ingredients: Lamb, lamb meal, cracked pearled barley, whole grain brown rice, egg product, chicken fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols), millet, beet pulp, potatoes, flaxseed, natural flavor, fish meal, potassium chloride, salt, choline chloride, dried chicory root, Yucca schidigera extract, vitamin E supplement, iron proteinate, zinc proteinate, copper proteinate, ferrous sulfate, zinc sulfate, copper sulfate, potassium iodide, thiamine mononitrate, manganese proteinate, manganous oxide, ascorbic acid, vitamin A supplement, L-Carnitine, biotin, niacin, calcium pantothenate, manganese sulfate, sodium selenite, pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), vitamin B12 supplement, riboflavin, vitamin D supplement, folic acid

Fiber (estimated dry matter content) = 3.3%

Red items when present indicate controversial ingredients

The first ingredient in this dry dog food lists lamb. Although it is a quality item, raw lamb contains about 80% water. After cooking, most of that moisture is lostc reducing the meat content to just a fraction of its original weight.

After processing, this item would probably occupy a lower position on the list.

Which brings us to lamb mealc the second and more likely the dominant meat ingredient in this dog food.

Lamb meal is considered a meat concentrate and contains nearly 300% more protein than fresh lamb.

The third ingredient lists barley. Barley is a starchy carbohydrate supplying fiber and other healthy nutrients. Unlike grains with a higher glycemic index (like rice), barley can help support stable blood sugar levels in dogs.

The fourth item is brown rice. Brown rice is a quality ingredientc a complex carbohydrate that (once cooked) is fairly easy to digest.

The fifth item lists dried egg productc a dehydrated form of shell-free eggs. Quality can vary significantly. Lower grade egg product can even come from commercial hatcheriesc from eggs that have failed to hatch.

In any case, eggs are easy to digest and have an exceptionally high biological value.

The sixth ingredient lists chicken fat. Chicken fat is obtained from rendering chickenc a process similar to making soup in which the fat itself is skimmed from the surface of the liquid.

Chicken fat is high in linoleic acidc an omega-6 fatty acid essential for life. Although it doesnft sound very appetizing, chicken fat is actually a quality ingredient.

The seventh ingredient is milletc gluten-free grains harvested from certain seed grasses. Millet is hypoallergenic and naturally rich in B-vitamins and fiberc as well as other essential minerals.

Once cooked, millet can be easily digested by a dog.

The eighth ingredient lists beet pulp. Beet pulp is a controversial ingredientc a high fiber by-product of sugar beet processing.

Some denounce beet pulp as an inexpensive filler while others cite its outstanding intestinal health and blood sugar benefits.

We only call your attention here to the controversy and believe the inclusion of beet pulp in reasonable amounts in most dog foods is entirely acceptable.

The ninth ingredient is potato. Assuming theyfre whole, potatoes are a good source of digestible carbohydrates and other healthy nutrients.

The tenth ingredient is flaxseedc one of the best plant sources of healthy omega-3 fatty acids. Flax seeds are rich in soluble fiber.

However, we find it unusual to see flaxseed here in its whole seed form. Whole flax seeds are almost impossible to digest (at least for us humans) unless they are first ground to a usable powder before they are consumed.

After the natural flavor, we find fish mealc another protein-rich meat concentrate.

Unfortunately, this particular item is anonymous. The term gfishh does little to properly describe this ingredient. What species? What parts?

Fish meal is commonly made from the by-products of commercial fish operations.

We are pleased to note that, unlike many fish meals, this particular item1 appears to be ethoxyquin-free.

From here, the list goes on to include a number of other items.

But to be realistic, ingredients located this far down the list (other than nutritional supplements) are not likely to have much of an effect on the overall rating of this product.

With two notable exceptionsc

First, we find no evidence of probioticsc friendly bacteria applied to the surface of the kibble after processing.

Finally, this food does contain chelated mineralsc minerals that have been chemically attached to protein. This makes them easier to absorb. Chelated minerals are usually found in better dog foods.

Diamond Naturals Dog Food
The Bottom Line

Judging by its ingredients alone, Diamond Naturals appears to be an above-average dry dog food.

But ingredient quality by itself cannot tell the whole story. We still need to estimate the productfs meat content before determining a final rating.

The dashboard displays a dry matter protein reading of 28%, a fat level of 17% and an estimated carbohydrate content of 48%.

If we exclude the lower-rated Lite product, the brand features an average protein content of 29% and a mean fat level of 18%.

Together, these figures suggest a carbohydrate proportion of 45% for the overall product line.

Average protein. Above-average fat. And below carbohydratesc when compared to a typical dry dog food.

With no evidence of any plant-based protein boosters, this looks like the profile of a dry dog food containing a respectable amount of meat.

Bottom line?

Diamond Naturals is a grain-based dry dog food using a notable amount of chicken, beef or lamb meals as its main sources of animal proteinc thus earning the brand four stars.

Highly recommended.

Those looking for a nice wet product from the same company may wish to check out our review of Diamond canned dog food.

A Final Word

This review is designed to help you make a more informed decision when buying dog food. However, our rating system is not intended to suggest feeding a particular product will result in a specific health benefit for your pet.

Remember, no dog food can possibly be appropriate for every life stage, lifestyle or health condition. So, choose wisely. And when in doubt consult a veterinarian for help.

Have an opinion about this dog foodc or maybe the review itself? Please knowc we welcome your comments.

Notes and Updates

01/05/2010 Original review
08/13/2010 Review updated

1.Diamond Pet Foods Customer Service, 8/13/2010 ↩
Tagged as: active, adult, all life stages, dry, growth, large breed, maintenance, puppy, senior, small breed, weight control

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This was the only 4 star feed i could find...

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