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Whose got the show dogs? Maybe you saw something I missed

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Yalll should move to Texas it was 72 at my house today.

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Actually Marc is correct it is harder on a dog's physiology to bring them in and out during cold spells than to just leave them outside.
Fact of the matter is if you want to bring the dogs into the house to make you feel better than do it, but biologically it is not necessary.



Isn't that what I said? LOL!

That was the point I was trying to make. I think they're better off outside fulltime.

My other point was that if you insist on bringing them inside be consistent, because we both know some folks are going to insist that it is too cold for them outside... probably someone in NC or TN vs. the 2 guys in MN and MI. I think it would be better for the dogs if they were consistent. If they were determined to let the dogs sleep in the house at night but kicked them out during the day while at work, I think it would better that they stick to that routine vs. leaving them out a couple nights a week when they are away for a weekend or if it warmed up 10-15 degrees.

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I think half of you guys missed the question. The question was not "do you think the cold weather would kill a dog?", it was "do you think bringing a dog in during below average temps and then taking him back out the next day would kill a dog?!"

We are experiencing unseasonably cold temps here, and while my houses are good with plenty of bedding, I am still bringing mine in even though I think he could probably handle it.
The only thing that scares me is hearing about those dogs I mentioned earlier being found dead.
Don't you guys remember long about this time last year during a severe cold snap all those guys posting about finding dogs dead?
I am not saying they had crappie houses or poor bedding, but isnt it strange that all those dogs died during that same period, right when most of the country had a really bad cold spell.
That does not mean EVERY dog is going to die, but some certantly could.

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I understood the question. Although I can't speak in absolute terms saying all dogs would be ok doing this i've let 3 or 4 different dogs sleep in the house and chained them back outside the next morning and it didn't seem to affect them at all.

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if you have a real old hound you might want to keep a close eye on them but as about everybody on here agrees that if you keep them in good boxes and make sure they have plenty dry straw in thier boxes good feed and water they gonna be alright like i say i soak my feed in hot water so they have something warm in thier belly for the night some times i heat beef broth up and pour over there feed but thats me everbody has thier own opion

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i would think it would be harder on a dog to get used to being inside then. put out side . my vet has always stated good bedding good house and plenty of fresh water and food and your will be as happy as a lark. never heard of a healthy dog freezing to death.


How do you quantify that last statement?

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Cold won't kill a dog and nor will bringing it in the house at night. Years ago I had three beagles. Two lived outside and one was my buddy and lived inside by the wood stove. Typical weekend in winter was 15 degrees, deep snow and a few hours running cottontails until the four of us were so tired and cold we could hardly drag ourselves back to the jeep. Those pups collars would be ringed with solid ice buildup and chucks of ice and snow between their toes and frost and snow balls hanging from their bellies. When we'd get back home i'd rub the ice off all of them, feed them and two would go back to their cold houses and one would curl up by the fire. All lived long lives, AND WERE HAPPY. Why aren't you guys?

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if you have a real old hound you might want to keep a close eye on them but as about everybody on here agrees that if you keep them in good boxes and make sure they have plenty dry straw in thier boxes good feed and water they gonna be alright like i say i soak my feed in hot water so they have something warm in thier belly for the night some times i heat beef broth up and pour over there feed but thats me everbody has thier own opion


You are still answering a question that was not asked!

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I understood the question. Although I can't speak in absolute terms saying all dogs would be ok doing this i've let 3 or 4 different dogs sleep in the house and chained them back outside the next morning and it didn't seem to affect them at all.


I am glad you understood the question, but I am having a hard time finding where you posted a response prior to me pointing out that some people did not understand the question. Maybe I overlooked your response by accident.

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I told a fellow hunter that I was going to bring my dog in during these single digit temps and he said the most silliest thing I think I have ever heard. He said if I was not careful that I would KILL the dog. Who else thinks this is rediculous? Not only has it been cold but the wind has been howling too.
I am sure bringing the dog in at say 7pm when it is 12 degrees and then taking it back out at midnite when it is 5 degrees would be pretty stupid but who in their right mind would do that?
Does anyone on here agree with him?
I know of 7 puppies, one mama dog, one 5 year old beardog, one 10 year old walker, and one three month old dog that has died in the past five days and I do not think that this is a coincidence! The folks whom these dogs belong to will go to their graves swearing there is no way these dogs froze to death because of the quality of their houses and bedding!
As for me, I am not taking a chance!

well i not being smart but but yes i do think it is ridiculous if your dog is healthy hunting breed of dogs are bred to hunt and stay out side thats the way the good lord made them if dog outside dog frezee to death outside it is from owener neglect jmo like i say not being smart

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well i not being smart but but yes i do think it is ridiculous if your dog is healthy hunting breed of dogs are bred to hunt and stay out side thats the way the good lord made them if dog outside dog frezee to death outside it is from owener neglect jmo like i say not being smart


That's fine and dandy if you live in an area where there are no dog laws that state how many you can own that live outside.

Unfortunately I live where there is an outside dog limit law.

These type of laws are popping up all around the country.

I have adapted to the law and so have the dogs -- what works for me may not work for others.

I have my limit of 3 already kenneled outside and the rest stay at night in the inside kennel.

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this is what i know, my family have raised dogs for years, dachshunds, brittany's, pug's, all akc and shown. the bird dogs were out, but were brought in. yes, there is a risk of pneumonia in dogs, in and out. you take the chance. either in or out til the weather breaks.
most people that reply to this are the one's asking you about parvo and how to cure it with clorox. point made.
it will come down to your best judgement. i am personally glad i brought mine in til the weather breaks. spring. til then, you will have the dogs you want to hunt with and a good mind set you did the right thing for you and yours. that is all that counts.
remember one thing, cant keep the carpet new forever or keep the plastic on the furniture, eventually, no matter what, it will be used and have to be replaced, hopefully, long before your dog.
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intellectualist, I got to thinking. Over near my folks house, their building a new high school. Weather here has dropped down to teens and low 20's at night.

Come day light, you see those guys on the contruction site hammering away all day after spending a warm night in a warm bed in a warm house.

If we humans can do it, you know dogs can do it.

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intellectualist, I got to thinking. Over near my folks house, their building a new high school. Weather here has dropped down to teens and low 20's at night.

Come day light, you see those guys on the contruction site hammering away all day after spending a warm night in a warm bed in a warm house.

If we humans can do it, you know dogs can do it.



I agree. Simply because a dog is much tougher than me!

I know this is off topic relative to the question I asked, but does anyone besides me remember the incidents that happened last year when all those folks were on this forum posting about how they went and found their dogs dead during the time that severe cold spell hit the country? Anybody? Did I just dream all of that stuff?
Does anyone find that coincidental?

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give me a break buckshot, us humans have a choice when we eat, pi**, and shII. what we eat etc...... you are going to tell me the corn meal supplement that we buy, lord knows that's what coyotes and wolves eat in the wild, will keep them through the night in - 0 degrees. or even 15 with a windchill. good boxes help, but sh(( will happen when that wind comes a whippin. no doubt in my mind.
when you put a dog on a chain and say, ok, i am going to do everything to help you cause i put you on the chain and i know best, we all know what happens after that, these questions . cause sometimes, we dont know what is best. cause we arent canine.

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give me a break buckshot, us humans have a choice when we eat, pi**, and shII. what we eat etc...... you are going to tell me the corn meal supplement that we buy, lord knows that's what coyotes and wolves eat in the wild, will keep them through the night in - 0 degrees. or even 15 with a windchill. good boxes help, but sh(( will happen when that wind comes a whippin. no doubt in my mind.
when you put a dog on a chain and say, ok, i am going to do everything to help you cause i put you on the chain and i know best, we all know what happens after that, these questions . cause sometimes, we dont know what is best. cause we arent canine.




Huh??? I am trying to unpack all of that you just spewed!

I think Buckshot was merely saying that in his opinion, it will not hurt a dog to bring it in during the night when it is really cold and then let it out the next morning when it is warming up.
That was the whole question when I started this thread!

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give me a break buckshot, us humans have a choice when we eat, pi**, and shII. what we eat etc...... you are going to tell me the corn meal supplement that we buy, lord knows that's what coyotes and wolves eat in the wild, will keep them through the night in - 0 degrees. or even 15 with a windchill. good boxes help, but sh(( will happen when that wind comes a whippin. no doubt in my mind.
when you put a dog on a chain and say, ok, i am going to do everything to help you cause i put you on the chain and i know best, we all know what happens after that, these questions . cause sometimes, we dont know what is best. cause we arent canine.



When you sober up in the morning, please re-read all my post again in this thread.

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When you sober up, please read my post again.


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must be an ex of mine, NOT. get over yourself. i can still spell.

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I must say, the entertainment value of this forum is priceless at times!

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intellectualist, some people are not worth the time to explain it to.............the boat has already left the dock.

How she came up with what she fumbled writing on what she got out of my post beats the heck out of me.

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you have a good set up yea we dont have any law on how many dogs you can keep outside in my county yet but you never know when these animal actvist will strike only inside dog we have inside is our little shitzu she is like our little baby spoiled to death now i wouldnt put her outside cause she belongs inside this thread can go on and on like i said everyone has their own opion on how they take care of thier hounds the way they see fit

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I agree. Simply because a dog is much tougher than me!

I know this is off topic relative to the question I asked, but does anyone besides me remember the incidents that happened last year when all those folks were on this forum posting about how they went and found their dogs dead during the time that severe cold spell hit the country? Anybody? Did I just dream all of that stuff?
Does anyone find that coincidental?

We already had a day here on this site recently where at one time there were three threads dedicated to "lost a good one last night". Now one of those three was a 14 or 15 year old dog, but if I remember right two of them were just 9 or 10.
Last year at about this time I started a thread reminding folks to take a little better care of their dogs in the cold. Folks hated it. Too many houndsmen are too prideful to listen to advice, so they let their hounds die instead. If three people posted about the loss of their dogs in the last cold spell, how many dogs died nationwide? My guess is literally thousands!
#2 COLD WILL KILL A DOG. SOmetimes slowly, often dogs slowly get more and more dehydrated with each passing day. It is hard for a dog to take in enough water when it freezes in such a short amount of time. Guys think they can water their dogs once or twice a day and that will be enough. WHEN YOUR DOG IS TRYING TO STAY WARM, IT IS BURNING LOTS OF CALORIES. IT TAKES LOTS OF WATER IN THEIR SYSTEM TO ENABLE THEM TO BURN LOTS OF CALORIES. Bringing your dog inside for a night of warmth will allow it to get fully rehydrated, load up on some much needed calories, and be better prepared to head back out into the cold.
Dogs in a natural setting could survive much colder conditions than many that are kenneled. An off leash dog in a natural setting would be able to find a warm space to sleep in. It would burrow deep into a haymow, or under something in a small space where it's heat would be retained. A dog in a doghouse has no choice of where to sleep other than what you have given it. Have you ever slept in your dogs dog house? Do you know how much wind comes through gap around the flap? Have you felt the straw/hay/bedding and realized how damp it is from blown in snow?
Please people- go put a little more hay in the doghouse, water them more often, feed them a little more, or bring them in. And if you aren't capable of that, go out and sleep with them for a night.

And to the 90% that do know how to take care of dogs properly, may your hound treat you as you treat it.

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I was tinking that thread was back in the late summer/ early fall.

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