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I just found more on their web site. NZ based co. You can only track your dogs on the map with a lap top. I carry enough stuff in the woods don't think I want to carry my lap top too. LOL! Always a catch.

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I just found more on their web site. NZ based co. You can only track your dogs on the map with a lap top. I carry enough stuff in the woods don't think I want to carry my lap top too. LOL! Always a catch.

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I'll bet there handlers are are more honest to the owners if they knew the owner was setting at home watching them dogs go from their personal computer. ( I guess they could always put it it on another dog though)

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you guys better hope your wives dont see this lol

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The hold up is not the technology....shoot technology is abundant.

Here is the real issue. The Garmins operate by sending GPS coordinates of the collars back to the hand held. It does this via GMRS radio frequencies....no go buy the most expensive GMRS radios you can find....none of them are rated more than about a mile and a half.

So put a "stronger" radio in you say....well that is easy enough to do....HERE IS THE PROBLEM....

The FCC (Federal Communications Commission) will not allow for stronger radios to be used. They control the power and the available frequencies that can be broadcast without a license. There are also restrictions on transmitting GPS coordinates, and having a receiver (GPS) and a transmitter(collar) in the same device.

So you can blame Garmin, you can say that Marshall is dragging their feet...but the truth of the matter is that the government is standing in the way of progress....

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Easy fix, just get your ham radio license and send your dog out with a radio if you want more than garmin is giveing. LOL

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So you can blame Garmin, you can say that Marshall is dragging their feet...but the truth of the matter is that the government is standing in the way of progress....

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Originally posted by Oak Ridge
The hold up is not the technology....shoot technology is abundant.

Here is the real issue. The Garmins operate by sending GPS coordinates of the collars back to the hand held. It does this via GMRS radio frequencies....no go buy the most expensive GMRS radios you can find....none of them are rated more than about a mile and a half.

So put a "stronger" radio in you say....well that is easy enough to do....HERE IS THE PROBLEM....

The FCC (Federal Communications Commission) will not allow for stronger radios to be used. They control the power and the available frequencies that can be broadcast without a license. There are also restrictions on transmitting GPS coordinates, and having a receiver (GPS) and a transmitter(collar) in the same
device.

So you can blame Garmin, you can say that Marshall is dragging their feet...but the truth of the matter is that the government is standing in the way of progress....

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Your "beep beep...is operating somewhere in the 154 to 220 Mhz...most likely between 216 and 220... They are different than the GMRS that is operating in the 462 to 467 Mhz. The physics are different.

You can not transmit "data" across the 462 to 467 Mhz legally in the united states.

I know a guy that makes tracking collars (beep beep). He made a prototype collar for use in Europe...in the 462 Mhz frequency range. He took a tracker, and altered it to recieve 462 Mhz.... He was getting 10 miles EASY with his collar.....until the FCC showed up and told him to "cease and desist"...Big brother is in the middle of this. You tell me how the FCC knew he was using that frequency for something other than what it was intended for?

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ok i understand what your sayin joe.i just dont understand why they cant use the same frequncy the beep beeps use JUST to send signal from collar to hand held then go from there to establish a blip on a map from the satelite,maybe thats asking too much of the technology or the money it would take to that is not worth the effort.
anyhow as a deer hunter who's hounds routinley get out of garmins range,i have to say on a coon dog they are the greatest thing straped to a hound but on one of my deer hounds the garmin system dont make a pimple on the arse of my beep beep system

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