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I got a nocturnal attict and love it the only thing I have hunted with so far is regular belt lights with 5100 heads and a predator and they dont come close. I am thinking about ordering one of Nocturnal addicts lights that plug into my belt light for a backup light. Dont know as though I could strap that belt around me again though, having it all on my head is nice. Get in the truck set my light beside me and put on my regular hat no cords no belt. Everyone that has seen my light has liked it.

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Not even in same league..............you'll need a whole new board for the led's and etc... if you are planning to get that head in the same league.

Right now compared to these others, that nite lite led head is in the Tball league while VC, KL, and BE's are in the Pro league.

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So which heads are made in the USA? Did everyone just not read this or does just nobody want to say their head is built overseas?

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OUR HEAD IS MACHINED AND ASSEMBLED IN THE USA! I BELIEVE THE ACTUAL LEDS HAVE TO BE SHIPPED IN THOUGH! I BELIEVE OURS AND BRIGHT EYES ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT ARE THIS WAY!MOST EVERYONE ELSES OUT THERE I BELIEVE ARE MADE IN CHINA!

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Guys, I read this banter about LED heads and I am glad that so many people are interested because my business is providing top quality leading edge products. The truth of the matter is there are two properly engineered heads on the market at this time. Yes anyone can purchase some LED's and apply current to them and make them illuminate but beware there is much more to it than that. There are critical temperatures that cannot be exceeded. Proper heat-sinking is a must also the method of driving is very important to ensure LED reliability. Then there are optics to talk about. At This time we use the brightest LED's available that have optics that will give a resonable spot. Yes there are brighter LED's out but there are no good optics at this time. I could make a head twice as bright as we have but it would not spot at all. If you overdrive or dont properly heat-sink these LED's they WILL!!!!! fail prematurely. We are building you a product to last for years not a few weeks or months. Also realize that right now the only way for us to get brighter is to add LED's due to the optics issue. Therefore it is mathematically and electrically impossible for a head with 3 LED's to be as bright as a head with 5 LED's when both heads are using the same LED and drive current. If you have questions please give me a call I will be glad to help. I promise that when brighter LED's that will work well in our application are available I will have them for my customers. Thanks for the business, Bright Eyes

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Guys, I read this banter about LED heads and I am glad that so many people are interested because my business is providing top quality leading edge products. The truth of the matter is there are two properly engineered heads on the market at this time. Yes anyone can purchase some LED's and apply current to them and make them illuminate but beware there is much more to it than that. There are critical temperatures that cannot be exceeded. Proper heat-sinking is a must also the method of driving is very important to ensure LED reliability. Then there are optics to talk about. At This time we use the brightest LED's available that have optics that will give a resonable spot. Yes there are brighter LED's out but there are no good optics at this time. I could make a head twice as bright as we have but it would not spot at all. If you overdrive or dont properly heat-sink these LED's they WILL!!!!! fail prematurely. We are building you a product to last for years not a few weeks or months. Also realize that right now the only way for us to get brighter is to add LED's due to the optics issue. Therefore it is mathematically and electrically impossible for a head with 3 LED's to be as bright as a head with 5 LED's when both heads are using the same LED and drive current. If you have questions please give me a call I will be glad to help. I promise that when brighter LED's that will work well in our application are available I will have them for my customers. Thanks for the business, Bright Eyes

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LOL, building own head???????? Thought you bought a nite lite LED head to supe up?

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Sir, I was not aiming a post at anyone, I was just stating some facts to try and clear up some misconceptions that are present concerning LED's. I welcome your innovations and wish you luck with them. The other LED's you mention are good LED's but do not have adequate optics. If you just want a flood light they will be ok. Your other specifications I dont really understand but as long as you do I'm ok with them. Take care and good luck. Ray

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well im using ther case i pulled all the internals out literally it is a crappy designed head i must say i have it all apart im just wainting for all my parts to get here i ordered a single 900 alleged lumen p7 led and the 1200 lumen 5 r2 drop in but also ordered a better driver for it and ordered a led that is allegedly capable of 1500lumens at 2.3amps it looks huge tho well see all of this was still under 140dollars

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well im using ther case i pulled all the internals out literally it is a crappy designed head i must say i have it all apart im just wainting for all my parts to get here i ordered a single 900 alleged lumen p7 led and the 1200 lumen 5 r2 drop in but also ordered a better driver for it and ordered a led that is allegedly capable of 1500lumens at 2.3amps it looks huge tho well see all of this was still under 140dollars

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i didnt buy any of my stuff at radio shack i ordered it all through a hong kong company and its not too expensive to resell it as thats under 140 dollars for 3 led heads when one costs 175-225 depending on where you buy it but my goal is honestly not to resell them i just want a really nice one for me myself and i and if so hapens a couple freinds want one ill make em one

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Well looks like you got two choices...Bright Eyes and Valley Creek!

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Well looks like you got two choices...Bright Eyes and Valley Creek!

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i have the g2 and am very satisfied with it. i've put them side by side with vc, bright eyes, and tim's and there isnt a dimes difference in brightness to me. thing i like best about g2 is the dimmer adjustment on the head.

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Man I have really enjoyed it. Nice long burn time. Have had no complaints what so ever. Its a world of difference from the old light. That being said I wouldnt hesitate to get a Valley Creek either as I have nothing but good experiences with them. Haleys light needs a new head and might be trying out VC light. Thats a ways off though.

It can turn way down and it can burn the tree. Its all up to you but I try to support those who still make things in the USA. I know not everything in it is from here but beats complete units coming from overseas. Dont see how those overseas heads cost as much as ones made here?


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The G2 is also an american made head.
Time will tell if the G2 is inferior in design with its deep draw aluminum case as some have stated.
The 5 LED design was first intriduced to the coonhunting public in the G2

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well im using ther case i pulled all the internals out literally it is a crappy designed head i must say i have it all apart im just wainting for all my parts to get here i ordered a single 900 alleged lumen p7 led and the 1200 lumen 5 r2 drop in but also ordered a better driver for it and ordered a led that is allegedly capable of 1500lumens at 2.3amps it looks huge tho well see all of this was still under 140dollars

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you use the whole head basically as a heat sink with copper dissapators and they have a 21mm heat sink attached to the LED just as any CREE style LED the heat sink that is attached is basically all you need see what the problem is to properly use a heat sink you need to have air flow in the head and ive looked the g2 and bright eyes over i dont see any holes in there heads for heat dissipation

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I guess I thought that head was plastic.

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Can the Valley Creek head be used on any light over 17 volts or does it have to be just certian kind?

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i didnt buy any of my stuff at radio shack i ordered it all through a hong kong company and its not too expensive to resell it as thats under 140 dollars for 3 led heads when one costs 175-225 depending on where you buy it but my goal is honestly not to resell them i just want a really nice one for me myself and i and if so hapens a couple freinds want one ill make em one

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Just ordered my VC light yesterday. Redgy was more than helpful to answer my questions. I have a Bright Eyes Terminator and nothing is wrong with it. Just wanted a belt light and for about thirty dollars more I got a led light. Makes no sense to me to spend $360 on a 26-28 volt light when you can spend a few more dollars and get the top of the line. I looked at all the new LED heads and in my opinion, VC has one of the nicest, with a very affordable price. I have read several posts on here and other sites and VC seems to be the most liked. Not saying any of the other heads are garbage. It makes more sense to me to buy it as a package. Get the battery pack the head was designed for. I can't wait to get mine and "burn the leaves off of the trees." I like fall better anyway, I know if my dog is telling the truth or not. LOL

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i get a kick out of people calling their lights 26-28 volt lights,,
how many people have seen a light bulb that can stand 28volts,,lol

most lights used to have heavy motocycle batterys ,then they went to d-cell batterys ,then c-cell ,then sub c cell and now they went to 2 AA batterys per d- cell to get the size and weight down futher and last the same time of the d-cell..

so what i'm saying most lights are wired as 12-14volt with double the little batterys that drive the 12 volt bulbs

i got one of them 5 led lights that clip onto the hat bill(uses watch batterys) and have found more eyes without even trying,,lol and they only cost around $5-$7...but in the night hunts i guess you have to burn the leaves off so the poor sports can see the coon when they dont want to..lol

i wonder if it would be legal to carry a didigal cam and zoom in on the coon and get its picture to show the non seeing people and the master hounds when taking ? back to the clubhouse???

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