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quote: Originally posted by Oak Ridge
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Use my own stud.. I feed him, I trained him, I campaigned him....and I pay him up in "programs" to the tune of several hundred dollars each year. Use my own female...I feed her, I trained her, I campaigned her....and I raise a litter off her ever couple of years. There is a "cost of ownership" factor that you are not taking into account. As a breeder, I keep more breeding age dogs than I can hunt, and I'm usually hunting a young dog anyway. Why keep them if I'm not going to breed them? Not any different than a cattle farmer keeping a bull, and a herd of cows...there is "cost of ownership".
Okay..next...Shots.
My current vaccination schedule is a straight Parvo shot at 5 weeks old. I get these in a 10 dose bottle for $35.00 plus shipping, so round it up to $40.00....that right there is $4.00 a shot. At 6, 8, 10, and 12 weeks...my pups get a 5 way vaccine. I buy these in a 25 dose pack, $71.29, shipping another $20.00 (next day air). That makes it just over $3.65 a dose, times 4, for a grand total of $14.60, plus the $4.00 for Parvo....I've got $18.60 in vaccine for each pup.
Next, wormer. I start worming my pups at 2 weeks old. I start them on Nemex...$59.99 for 16 ounces. Pups are wormed at 2,3,4,5,6 weeks with Nemex. Average litter uses a whole bottle, then I switch to Panacur at 8, 10, and 12 weeks. Safeguard goat wormer is $25.00 a bottle for 150CC, and this will do an average litter for 3 doses. I have $84.99 in worming the litter. Using your average litter of 8, that is $10.62 per pup in worming.
So now...I have about $30.00 in worming and vaccine in each pup....time to register them.
UKC litter registration :$20.00
UKC Performance Nomination : $25.00
Another $45.00 total. Or $5.62 per pup. Total per pup so far.....$35.62
AKC Registration: $25.00 Processing fee, plus $2.00 Per pup
AKC "program" $25.00
Total: $66.00
PKC Registration: $7.00 + $3.00 per pup
Total: $31.00, or $3.87 per pup.
(This does not include PKC SS registrations)
When I raise a litter of pups, there are some expenses for the female. She gets a good worming before she is bred, two, four, and six weeks after she is bred with the same Panacur. That means another $25.00. I feed the female puppy chow, and give her Nutri-tabs every day from the time she is bred ($24.99 for Vitamins, and $104.97 for gestational puppy chow.)
Total for Momma: $154.96
Add in the Brucellosis test: $45.00 and we are up to $199.96
Stud Fee: $400.00.
I now have $996.72 invested in this litter of 8 pups and I've not fed them a kernel of feed. I don't sell pups before they are at the VERY YOUNGEST 8 weeks old, and prefer to keep them until they are 12 weeks old. I feed Purina Puppy chow, at a minimum, and at $34.00 a bag, I'll use five bags total from the time they are ready to eat, until 8 pups are delivered to new owners. Rougly another $170.00.
If they are all healthy, don't need a trip to the vet and we don't count the other expenses involved as "incidental"...I have $1165.72 invested in this litter of pups, or $145.71 per pup.
Now...I don't sell very many pups out of a litter of 8 pups for $400.00, more along the lines of $250 to $300.
Are you telling me that I'm not entitled to make a profit on pups after I have all of the time and expense invested. Sure you can raise pups "on the cheap"....but as has been shown here, you can raise a litter of unregisterable pups, give them one shot, one worming, and charge $100.00 for em....Give me a break.
I have no problem at all with folks making money off pups, the way you did it is the right way, yes it does cost more and no its not all necessary, but the better way to go...but people that sell pups, that may or may not have had all that money sunk in them, and put big prices on them, and then get indignant and claim they have that much money in the pups...that is what I believe is BS...
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