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Here is another e-mail address to contact sports iluustrated.

eileen_masio@timeinc.com

e-mail her about why they are involved with HSUS

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HOUND HUNTING

Hound Hunting
A Few Comments...
I'd like to say a few things on this subject...

By Mr. John Price


The first item is that the hound hunting ban on cougar and bears that is in place now in Oregon is the result of a campaign of misinformation and deliberate falsehoods on the part of the HSUS in the 1994 election. Their description of hound hunting practices is so inaccurate it would be laughable if the results weren't so tragic. There are bad apples in any human endeavor, but to paint all people in that endeavor with the same brush is dishonest. Typical hound hunters do not starve their dogs, nor abandon them in the woods at the end of the hunting season. They do not use locating collars to leisurely drive to the treed game once the hounds have done their work. They do not want their hounds in close contact, or fighting with the game that is pursued. They do not purposely wound animals so the dogs can fight them. All of these things were claimed to be standard practices in hound hunting by HSUS during the election. Indeed you can find those same lies promoted on their websites today.

The big lie, told often enough and loudly enough, becomes widely accepted as the truth. The reality is that my dogs, and those of the people I know lead the life of pampered athletes. Instead of the 25 cents per pound grocery store food most dogs get, with 14% protein and 8% fat content, my dogs get a 68 cents per pound premium food with 34% protein and 24% fat content. They live in a heated, insulated kennel with electricity and running water. They are members of the family with human contact, exercise, and free roaming time every day. A dog in which I have invested countless hours of training, and thousands of dollars in purchase price and veterinary care is not about to be abandoned in the woods when hunting season is over, nor am I unnecessarily going to risk its safety by letting it fight a big game animal. My dogs are outfitted with locating collars when they are in the woods precisely because they are so valuable to me. A good hound can be heard baying for a couple of miles under good conditions, but when the dogs get out of earshot the only way to find them is with a tracking collar. I knew one friend who took a week off from work to find his lost hound. Hound hunting for lions is all about being there with the hounds as they work out a trail, and track down and tree a lion. If I am allowed to take one lion per season, why would I sit in a truck and wait for the dogs to tree and then leisurely walk in and shoot it? Where is there any enjoyment in that? In that example my whole hunting season is over in a few minutes. No, I follow the dogs. I catch up with them at the tree. I determine that this cat is not the one I want because it is a lactating female, a young tom, or because I just don't want to end my season yet. I put leashes on the dogs and leave after taking some spectacular pictures. I go find another lion track and do it all over again. The dogs are not abused. They are doing what they were designed to do, what they love to do, what they do according to instinct. The lion is not abused. It gains some healthy respect for human beings and dogs, and lives to run and climb another day. No hunter I know deliberately acts unethically, or intentionally breaks laws. If I knew of such people I would turn them in myself. No ethical hunter purposely wounds game, or wastes it. Every sport has rules that make it enjoyable and are essential to it. Hunting is no different.

As for the lion situation in Oregon, in 1994 there were about 3000 lions in the state, hound hunting was legal, predation of livestock was tolerable, and there were plenty of deer and elk. Since the hound hunting ban the lion population has grown at a rate of 5% each year, doubling to approximately 6000 lions in 2006. Oregon's land area is 97,000 square miles. About 5% of Oregon's land is urbanized and unsuitable at all for habitat. That means that of the other 95% of the land, each of the 6000 lions in Oregon has about 15 square miles of territory. That includes the 1/3 of the state that comprises the dense western evergreen forests resembling California, and the 2/3 of the state that is the eastern high desert which greatly resembles western Texas. According to the Mountain Lion Foundation, "The American lion is very territorial and their home areas can range from 25 square miles in Idaho and California to 1000 square miles in western Texas." At a population of 6000 lions there is only about half the needed habitat to go around in Oregon, even if we assume that every non-urbanized acre is the best possible habitat. Since lions are so territorial, is it any wonder that the immature, young cats are being pushed onto the least suitable habitat; your back yard, with the least suitable food supply; your poodle or your sheep? Is it any wonder that the deer and elk herd recruitment is very low, and that these herds are dwindling measurably since 1994? According to a research paper by Bickner at UNC, the average number of deer kills per year per cougar in a healthy cougar population is about 33 to 35. This means that presently lions in Oregon are taking about 210,000 deer per year, about 105,000 more than in 1994. From the ODFW website: "In 1979, the Department estimated the statewide black-tailed deer population at 452,000. Population estimates during the next 10 years, based on computer modeling, varied between 400,000 and 500,000. In 2004 [10 years into the lion population increase due to banned hound hunting], the black-tailed deer population estimate for Oregon was 320,000." That is a 25% decline in 10 years. That extra 105,000 deer kills starts to look pretty significant.

Given the pressure from deer and elk hunters to do something, ODFW opened up the season on lions to nearly year round and issued lion tags automatically with every hunting license. This was a dismal failure on two counts. Number one, the success rate for these opportunistic lion hunters is about 1%. Number two, these kills tend to be indiscriminate, with lactating females and yearling cubs being taken as often as any other lion. A deer hunter who happens upon a cougar does not have time to inspect it to see if it is a suitable specimen. Unable to deal with the problem by that means, ODFW then decided to contract with the federal government to hire bounty hunters to hunt and trap 3000 lions and return the population to historical levels. While somewhat successful, this strategy also has its flaws. Number one, the vast majority of these kills are with snares. Snares are indiscriminate. They catch and kill anything and everything that happens along, including female lions with nursing cubs, pregnant females, deer, raccoons, wolves, coyotes, dogs, etc. Number two, when dogs are used by federal agents, how is that different from sport hunters using dogs when it comes to being humane, etc? The only difference here is that it costs the state money to contract for an activity that sport hunters used to pay for the privilege of performing. Does the state government have money to throw away?

I have been a hunter, a trapper, a professional fishing guide, and a farmer off and on for most of my 60+ years on the planet. I'm not a wildlife biologist, but I have decades of practical experience and first hand observation. I'm also a college graduate and my profession is data analysis. As you can see from the above, if you've waded in this far, this is a very complex and complicated issue. The truth lies somewhere in reams of research studies and lists of numbers. For HSUS to win the day with 30 second sound bites reinforcing the big lie, all it takes is money, and they get plenty of that from the folks who don't realize who HSUS really is. It's tempting to say, "Well, I don't like hunting anyway." But realize that once they've disposed of hound hunters nation-wide, their next target will be bird hunters and their dogs, then all hunting, then dogs in general, then livestock in general, including your sheep.

"We are going to use the ballot box and the democratic process to stop all hunting in the United States ... We will take it species by species until all hunting is stopped in California. Then we will take it state by state.Wayne Pacelle, president and CEO of Humane Society of the US (HSUS), formerly of Friends of Animals and Fund for Animals, Full Cry Magazine, October 1, 1990.

"We have no ethical obligation to preserve the different breeds of livestock produced through selective breeding. . One generation and out. We have no problem with the extinction of domestic animals. They are creations of human selective breeding." Wayne Pacelle, president and CEO of Humane Society of the US, formerly of Friends of Animals and Fund for Animals, Animal People, May, 1993

"My goal is the abolition of all animal agriculture." JP Goodwin, employed at the Humane Society of the US, formerly at Coalition to Abolish the Fur Trade, as quoted on AR-Views, an animal rights Internet discussion group in 1996.

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HSUS & Virginia Hound Hunting

Virginia: Hounded to Death

The Humane Society of the United States




The HSUS
The practice of hound hunting—using packs of dogs, some equipped with radio transmitters—to chase and hunt deer, bears and other wildlife has become an increasingly controversial and hotly-debated issue in many areas, particularly in Virginia. And rightly so.

After receiving hundreds of complaints from landowners, animal advocates and even hunters, the Virginia Department of Game and Inland Fisheries (VDGIF) created a Stakeholder Advisory Committee to analyze the situation and develop a solution. Unfortunately, half the committee is composed of hound hunters and its proposed recommendations are mainly voluntary, unenforceable, heavily biased in favor of hunting with packs of dogs, and fail to address the serious animal welfare issues involved.

HSUS members submitted more than two thousand comments to the Stakeholder Advisory Committee and the VDGIF, condemning the current regulations which allow for the gross mistreatment of both hounds and wildlife. The HSUS also submitted extensive comments.

Dozens of HSUS members report hound hunters hunting illegally on their property, damaging their property and crops, and clearing roads on their land posted with no hunting signs. Packs of hunting dogs—sometimes containing 40 or more hounds—terrorize landowners in and out of legal hunting season at all hours of the day and night, harassing livestock, wildlife and pets. When confronted, some hound hunters have become verbally abusive.

Our members are most concerned about the treatment of the dogs used for hunting. In particular, hunters routinely abandon their dogs when they fail to perform well, become old, or sometimes even if they become pregnant, leaving them to starve, be hit by cars, be picked up by a kind-hearted neighbor, or fill up local animal shelters. Hound hunters often fail to provide proper veterinary care, treat wounds or vaccinate their dogs. Hounds are most commonly severely emaciated and are kept in small kennels all but a few weeks a year.

Our members and supporters in Virginia provide shocking details of their experiences.

"Emaciated dogs come onto my property, dogs with ribs sticking out so far they collapse-gasping for air; some have even died here...I pull dead or dying dogs off the roads—this year alone I removed nine, last year 14."



"I am a volunteer with a humane society and more than 50 percent of our intake results from irresponsible owners of hunting dogs. They release old, diseased or poor performing animals into the wild...Over 80 percent are heartworm positive."



"Many of the dogs that I see running through fields are emaciated, have untreated wounds and their living conditions are horrible...When they do not perform well...they are shot. If they go missing, the hunters rarely care."



"I rescued a hunting dog that came into my yard five years ago. I called the owner and he said 'Aw...she'll be alright. Just leave her.' I told him I would hold her until he picked her up and he never came to get her."



"The hounds all have been undernourished and extremely skinny, some downright emaciated, with their bones sticking out at hips, ribs, chest, etc."



"Their poor feet are cut and bruised from running through brambles."



"The majority of them do not feed the dogs adequately so that they are hunting because they are starving. They make no real effort to find the dogs but rely on the animal shelter to pick them up or someone (like me) to find them...I just adopted a very old female beagle from the shelter. She had a hunter's ID on her collar but, when the shelter called him, he said she was not his. In reality, she wasn't useful to him any more so he didn't care what happened to her."



"Hunting dogs often show up on my doorstep. They are malnourished, scared, and covered with ticks and fleas!"



"Following deer season I routinely see starving deer dogs by the side of the road and often DEAD deer dogs IN the road."



"My Maggie, a foxhound, was left to die on a busy interstate outside of Petersburg...She was so emaciated that you could count each of her bones. Years later, when she needed x-rays the veterinarian said, 'You do know she's been shot.'...He then produced the films and showed me (to my horror) that pellets were throughout her entire body, from skull to tail! Too many to even count."

Dogs are often injured during the chase as well, particularly during bear hunts. Some bears do not meekly scamper away but turn and fight, and reports of bears injuring or killing one or all of the dogs are not uncommon.

Hunting with packs of dogs is particularly inhumane for wildlife as well. Animals are often run repeatedly until the point of exhaustion, and if the dogs reach their quarry before the hunter does, they can tear apart the animal. According to one hunter who contacted The HSUS, "Two years ago I found two black bear cubs that had been killed. Both weighed approximately 20 to 30 pounds...The cub looked to have been chewed up pretty badly by the dogs and had apparently been hit with a rock, likely to kill the cub after the dogs had seriously wounded it."

It is clear that Virginia needs a sound solution to the problem of hunting with packs of dogs, one that recognizes the abundant problems associated with the welfare of the dogs, the treatment of wildlife and respect for others' property rights.

What You Can Do
Send your comments to the Virginia Department of Game and Inland Fisheries, letting them know that hound hunting is cruel to both hounds and wildlife.
Virginia Department of Game and Inland Fisheries

4010 West Broad Street

P.O. Box 11104

Richmond, VA 23230
dgifweb@dgif.virginia.gov[/email]

If you live in an area where hound hunting is practiced and need to report a wildlife crime, call: 1-800-237-5712. For non-emergency, 24-hour dispatch call: 804-367-1258.


Document the hound hunting you see! Take pictures and videos and send them to us, particularly of abused hunting dogs. You can contact us or receive more information by email at [email]huntingissues@humanesociety.org.


Write a letter to the editor of your local paper, informing readers about this issue. Urge the state to take action to stop the inhumane treatment of both hunting dogs and wildlife.
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HELP THE VIRGINIA HOUNDSMAN

Houndsman Help Virginia Hunters
The HSUS web site has the following address on there web site about Virginia Hound hunting, they are asking all to send letters and e-mail to the Virginia department of fish and game asking to do away with hound hunting.

Well we all need to write them a letter or e-mail them telling them we hunt with hounds and that we are tired of the lies that HSUS spreads about us. DO IT NOW TO HELP THE VIRGINIA HOUNDSMAN.

VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF GAME AND INLAND FISHERIES
4010 WEST BROAD STREET
PO BOX 11104
RICHMOND VIRGINIA 23230

OR
dgifweb@dgif.virginia.gov

E_MAIL them now and tell everyone you know to do it.

This is another attempt by Megan Sewell and HSUS to spread more lies. Let us get after them now

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WOLVES AND HOUNDS

WOLVES KILL DOGS

Wolves kill dogs. It’s a simple fact that was overlooked in the wolf reintroduction scheme, but it’s become heartbreakingly too familiar to many ranchers, pet owners and hound hunters in the region.

The environmental impact statement for the wolf reintroduction program had little to say about wolves preying on dogs, other than to note that it would be "a fairly uncommon event" and was expected to be "very infrequent."

That’s no comfort for those who have such an experience.

Because it’s become an all-too-frequent event that wolves kill hunting dogs, each winter, press releases are issued by state management agencies like this one from Montana Fish, Wildlife & Parks, issued Dec. 1, 2006:
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Mountain Lion Hunters Need To Be Aware Of Wolves On the Landscape
Montana Fish, Wildlife & Parks, Dec. 1, 2006
With the winter season for mountain lion hunting with hounds opening Dec. 1, lion hunters need to be wolf-aware to avoid conflicts between hounds and wolves.

"Wolves look at all domestic dogs as competitors," said Carolyn Sime, FWP wolf coordinator. "Competition for territory, food or a mate drives wolves to be aggressive toward dogs."

Sime said that in Montana only a few cases of wolves killing domestic dogs are reported each year, though some incidents may go unreported.?Mountain lion hunting hounds could risk a wolf attack if houndsmen release them to track lions for long distances in wolf territory.

The risk is compounded by the fact that the Montana lion harvest and chase season is open during the wolf-breeding season, which generally begins in February. At this time, wolves are especially territorial and aggressive toward any canid—wolf, dog or coyote.

While one can’t fully protect lion hunting dogs from wolves, lion hunters in states where wolves are well established have developed the following precautions that can reduce the hunting dog’s exposure to wolves.

* check the area for wolf sign. Don’t release hounds if there are fresh wolf tracks, a recent wolf kill, or wolves howling nearby.
* release hounds only on fresh mountain lion tracks to shorten the chase time.
* use bells on hound collars and yelling periodically to signal a human is with the hounds.
* run more hounds to discourage lone wolves from attacking dogs.
* use radio telemetry tracking collars to help relocate lost dogs quickly.
* howl to see if any wolves in the immediate area respond. If they do, hunt elsewhere.
* use protective dog vests. The vest may shield hunting hounds from a wolf attack long enough for the hunter to reach the dog before a wolf can kill it.
* use spiked collars. Spikes have helped reduce injuries in some wolf attacks on herding and guarding dogs in Montana.
* be aware of wolf pack locations in Montana.

A map is available on the FWP web site. Mountain lion hunters need to keep in mind that federal regulations determine what a lion hunter can do to protect hounds during a wolf encounter.

Regulations differ depending on whether the incident takes place in the endangered area (north half of Montana) or the experimental area (south half of Montana) and whether the encounter takes place on public land or private land.

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READ THIS AND RESPOND
coonsmen is right
I just wrote a reply on the wall-mart thread up a few threads from this one read my post.
I watched the history cannel on how HITLER and the NAZI'S came into power and its a lot like these s.o.bs are opperating think about it .
check it out !
Obma has this guy in charge of u.s. wildlife and forrest or what ever trying to pass a law animals can SUE I SAID SUE people, well it din't get past this time.
I don't know who to get a holed of but I would like to have it checked out to see if there is a atachment on the health ins. bill outlawing hunting with hounds I'll bet there is. we need a repersentative to check it out for us,any idea's call on them please and fast! Megan Sewell told me in a e-mail that they would have all hound hunting outlawed in the near future and we
couldn't stop them it was in the bag!!!! Thats what she said!!!!
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New memeber from the H$US
ladies and gentlemen we have a new member on the UKC board.

masa1- megan sewell.

she is the driving force behind the CB issue and H$U$'s drive to end hound hunting.

make sure everyone gives her a warm welcome~!! she has come out of the closet to join in the fun. guess she got tired of just reading our post.


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HSUS has a bill here in Missouri now that is trying to stop the breeding of puppies in our state. It will affect anyone who raises any kind of puppy. If they pass it in our state who will be next on their aganda? I have the bumper stickers that Jimmy Leach posted above. We are selling these to raise money to fight this bill! 100 % of the money is being put in a fund to hel[p fight these bogus bills HSUS put on any of us! They are $5.00 if you would like one send me the money and I will mail you one. We need these nation wide! I will also have them at NHBA Days. This is one time the Hunters need to band together! I am sure glad someone else in another state is watching what HSUS is trying to do in every state! Hsus are NOT the good guys they try to make their selves out to be!
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Here is the web site guys. Check it out. It will make you sick and make your blood boil. Make sure you watch the video.

www.humane society.org/issues/hound_hunting/ MAKE SURE TO CHECK IT OUT.

Tell veryone you know to check it out. Let us here what you think.

Also Sara who writes for UKC wants our responses so she can publish our views and what we think. Let her know. E-mail her at ( SChisnell-Voigt@ukcdogs.com)


*** they really are targetting the big game hounds. ***

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Michigan Hunters-Take Action Against HSUS
The nation's largest anti-hunting group is at it again. The Humane Society of the United States (HSUS) has been lobbying Michigan lawmakers over the past few weeks about legislation that would authorize the NRC to issue orders for a science-based, limited harvest Moose season in Michigan. The reason? Because HSUS is opposed to any type of hunting (and food animal agriculture).

HSUS has issued an action alert asking members of the Michigan House of Representatives to vote "no" on Senate Bill 1013 (Sen. Allen, R-Traverse City). The worst part is not that HSUS is based in Washington, D.C. and has hired a lobbyist and staff member in Michigan to defeat bills like S.B. 1013 that promote science-based wildlife management, nor the fact that they categorize their anti-hunting action alert under "animal abuse," but that they are intentionally lying to legislators about the bill.

HSUS's state director has been working overtime in the misinformation department lately. You may recall her Detroit Free Press editorial recently where she suggested that Michigan's wolf population still belongs on the Endangered Species List (despite that they're currently 1,000 percent above the ESA population goal) and that hunters are the reason for the animal's demise. She's also a former employee of another animal-rights group, FARM, which was behind the whole "meat is bad for you - 'Michigan Meatout Day'" we experienced last week. Here are some of HSUS's latest whoppers on Senate Bill 1013 (they were voiced to House lawmakers last week):
• Lie #1: Michigan's moose population is "too fragile" to sustain a hunting season.
o FACT: Wildlife biologists estimate that Michigan has roughly 580 moose in the Upper Peninsula - about 100 in the East U.P. and 480 in the West U.P. This growing population is large enough to sustain about 12 moose harvested each year - most or all of which would occur in the Western U.P.
• Lie #2: Creating a limited-harvest hunting season will harm Michigan's moose population.
o FACT: Additional funding derived from moose hunting applications and kill tags will direct more resources to manage Michigan's moose population. Wildlife management through science-based, wise use principles will eventually lead to a larger, healthy population of game similar to conservation successes in Michigan with wild turkey, bear, and elk.
• Lie #3: Wildlife watchers contribute more to Michigan's economy than sportsmen by a 4:1 ratio; therefore, Michigan's economy will suffer if a limited harvest season is created.
o FACT: Sportsmen and women pay for conservation of our state's wildlife. According to the 2006 National Survey of Fishing, Hunting and Wildlife-Associated Recreation, hunting/fishing expenditures in Michigan by residents and non-residents are roughly $3.5 billion annually ($2,071 per person average), which provides an additional $5.9 billion economic ripple effect on the state's economy. Wildlife watching expenditures are about $1.1 billion annually ($332 per person average). Additionally, hunting/fishing and wildlife watching are not mutually exclusive activities. 23 percent of wildlife watchers in Michigan also fish or hunt and 49 percent of sportspersons enjoy wildlife watching. Further, as evidenced by science-based game management successes, a Michigan moose season will likely improve the management of moose, benefiting both wildlife watchers and hunters.
As you may already know, HSUS is not a fan of the truth. It lied openly and often during the dove bill fight and it's absolutely lying now about the moose and wolf issues.

The worst part? They partly get away with it because their animal rights agenda is hidden with a name like "Humane Society of the United States." HSUS is NOT the same as your local county humane society animal shelters, which actually do great work in taking care of abused and neglected animals. HSUS is an anti-hunting, anti-food agriculture organization based in Washington, D.C. In fact, out of HSUS's $100 million annual budget, less than one half of one percent went to local animal shelters, according to their 2008 tax return. So you can guess where the other 99.5% goes - to pay for deceiving advertisements and paid lobbyists to take away your rights to hunt, fish and trap.

There is great potential for Michigan's growing moose herd under science-based management that has been so successful for other great game species in our state. Senate Bill 1013 will allow state resource managers to provide sustainable hunting opportunities that will further benefit Michigan's economy and improve upon our state's rich outdoor heritage.
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Your post was chilling & representative of HSUS operations. They "get a foot in the door" and expand their power.
While talking with a salesperson for a billboard vendor company I discovered her company already does the billboards in Austin, Texas for HSUS and THLN (Texas Humane Legislation, a legislative branch of HSUS) so she felt her company couldn't do the billboard I proposed. I've contacted another company - waiting for response. Right now I've learned a billboard is possible in Rapid City near Mount Rushmore for $1,200 - $1,500 for one month. That's a small city - but it DOES have many tourists from across the USA. And a billboard in a major city can be as much as $5,000 - $9,000. The goal is to get a billboard where the MEDIA will zoom in on it, carry on with publicity and recognize our cause, realizing HSUS/PETA need to be flushed down the drain.


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BILL BOARD AGAINST HSUS
I wonder if any of the KC's would be interested in donating to the fund. Or even the big light and tracker dealers etc. What about individuual breeders. I mean if alot of hunters donated only $2.00 it would be very possible. Maybe UKC would even start a fund that one could donate to. Just a few ideas to throw out there.

Maybe they would let us have a free ad in the bloodlines with the idea and a form that someone could fill out and send in a donation. With all the hunters and other posibliities this thing is possible and should be done.

Dose anyone that reads this have any thoughts on the idea? If you do get them out here for all of us to see and think about.


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If you have a web site address for the bill board co. that has the HSUS board or e-mail address post them so we can tell them how dissapointed we are that they do anything for an outfit like them.


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JOIN UP NOW

Join up.
Our local paper had this in today.

NEW PROGRAM BACKS HUNTERS

The US Sportsmens Alliance has unveiled a dynamic new initiative aimed at building an army of sportsmen from coast to coast to protect Americas outdoor heritage for future generations. The USSA's Sentry Program is free to join and represents the most intense effort ever focussed on attracting sportsmen to become active players in the fight to preserve hunting, fishing and trapping rights whenever they are threatened.
By becoming a Sentry, sportsmen will be notified by instant e-mail about local and national threats to their outdoor rights. They will also be given specific instructions on which public officials to contact. This communication network will enable sportsmen to moblize quicker and more effectivley than ever.
In addition to getting sportsmen engaged in advocacy, the Sentry Program offers additional benefits, giving sportsman a one-stop web site for key information including state hunting regulations, location of shooting ranges and other hunting and fishing tips from recognized leaders in the outdoor community.
"There are many anti-hunting organizations seeking to do away with what we love, " said Bud Pigeon, USSSA president and ceo. " By coming together under the Sentry Program, sportsmen will enhance our ranks and collectively stand tall against those groups."
There is no cost to join the Sentry Program.

Visit USSA's web site at www.ussportsmen.org/BeASentry
or e-mail info@ussportsmen.org

Everyone should join this now so check it out and tell all your friends.


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Join up.
Our local paper had this in today.

NEW PROGRAM BACKS HUNTERS

The US Sportsmens Alliance has unveiled a dynamic new initiative aimed at building an army of sportsmen from coast to coast to protect Americas outdoor heritage for future generations. The USSA's Sentry Program is free to join and represents the most intense effort ever focussed on attracting sportsmen to become active players in the fight to preserve hunting, fishing and trapping rights whenever they are threatened.
By becoming a Sentry, sportsmen will be notified by instant e-mail about local and national threats to their outdoor rights. They will also be given specific instructions on which public officials to contact. This communication network will enable sportsmen to moblize quicker and more effectivley than ever.
In addition to getting sportsmen engaged in advocacy, the Sentry Program offers additional benefits, giving sportsman a one-stop web site for key information including state hunting regulations, location of shooting ranges and other hunting and fishing tips from recognized leaders in the outdoor community.
"There are many anti-hunting organizations seeking to do away with what we love, " said Bud Pigeon, USSSA president and ceo. " By coming together under the Sentry Program, sportsmen will enhance our ranks and collectively stand tall against those groups."
There is no cost to join the Sentry Program.

Visit USSA's web site at www.ussportsmen.org/BeASentry
or e-mail info@ussportsmen.org

Everyone should join this now so check it out and tell all your friends.


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Dog-collar case against worker at PETA dismissed
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By Linda McNatt
The Virginian-Pilot
© March 21, 2008
COURTLAND

A judge on Thursday dismissed a misdemeanor charge against a worker for Norfolk-based People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals who had been accused of stealing a hunting dog’s tracking collar.

The circuit judge overseeing the case of Ondrea Harris , 26, called her a “meddlesome do-gooder” for picking up a foxhound on a Southampton County road that leads to North Carolina.

The incident occurred in October 2006, on the side of Va. 35 between Courtland and Boykins. Harris – who at the time was named Andrea Florence Benoit but has since married and changed her first and last names – was on a call as a community outreach worker. .

Harris and another outreach worker saw the hound on the side of the road. A motorist who witnessed the pickup called Southampton County Sheriff’s Deputy J.T. Cooke Jr., an animal control officer. The hunting dog happened to belong to Cooke.

Harris , who was driving a PETA van, and co-worker Carrie Beth Edwards were accused of stealing the dog and charged with felony theft . The charge against Edwards was later dropped, and the charge against Harris was reduced to misdemeanor petty larceny, for the alleged theft of the collar. She had removed the collar and left it on the roadside.

Harris contended that she was attempting to save a dog that she found on the edge of a road where the speed limit is 55 mph.

Assistant Southampton Commonwealth’s Attorney Steve Edwards said the judge ruled prosecutors failed to prove Harris had intended to permanently deprive the collar’s owner of its possession.

David Perle, a PETA spokesman, praised the decision.

“Resources would have been better spent investigating the poor condition and abandonment of hunting dogs instead of impugning the motives of a decent young woman who tried to help a dog,” he said. “Our employee acted out of a humane desire to try to protect a dog from getting hurt on the highway.”

PETA Vice President Daphna Nachminovitch said the outcome was what the organization expected.

Harris, she said, still works in community outreach.



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March 25, 2010

Sierra Club Takes Aim At Hunting Bears With Hounds

From the Mt. Shasta Herald:

The Sierra Club has filed a letter opposing a California Department of Fish and Game proposal to expand the use of dogs by bear hunters. If approved, the DFG proposal will increase the hounding of bears by dog packs, as well as expand black bear hunting into San Luis Obispo County and other areas of the state….

“We strongly oppose uncontrolled hounding of bears, a practice which results in gruesome injuries to bears and dogs,” states a press release from the Sierra Club.


DFG regulations make it a crime to hunt cubs and mother bears. However, according to the Sierra Club, the packs of hounds do not always read or follow those rules…. 


The Sierra Club also said that, in their opinion, legitimizing hounding will lead to more poaching.
 “The use of dogs to hunt bears is the favored method of bear poachers,” states the press release.

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National Headquarters
85 Second Street, 2nd Floor
San Francisco, CA 94105
USA
Phone: 415-977-5500
Fax: 415-977-5799
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408 C St., N.E.
Washington, DC 20002
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Phone: 202-547-1141
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Online merchandise orders: store@sierraclub.org

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Sierra Club Books: books.publishing@sierraclub.org


Sierra Magazine: [email]sierra.magazine@sierraclub.org

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NC HUNTERS NEED HELP NOW!!!!!!!!

NC HUNTERS NEED HELP
POSTED BY CYNTHIA AND DAVID GARDEN. NC HOUND HUNTERS NEED YOUR HELP. E-MAIL THE ADDRESSES BELOW. DO YOUR PART AND HELP THEM OUT. LET US KNOW IF YOU GET A REPLY. TELL ALL YOU KNOW.

Attn Richmond Co NC residents
last night at the county commissioners meeting, Tom Carr and Bill Webb requested to the commissioners that the board petition the General Assembly to add to the existing lands that prohibit hunting deer with dogs to also include the area West of 220 and North of 74. If you know anything about the county that is the northwestern quadrant of the county which includes a lot of the river lands, lots of wildlife lands.

Currently this line runs thru the center of Anson County, borders Montgomery & richmond, then north bordering moore and montgomery.

please call & write:

Sen William Purcell:
office 919-733-5953
home 910-276-7328
email William.Purcell@ncleg.net[/email]

Rep Melanie Goodwin:
office 919-733-5823
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FROM THE WILDLIFE REG BOOK:
from the Local laws section:
Richmond
 Take deer with dogs west of Little River and that portion east of
Little River, bounded by N.C. 73 to the north, by Hough Road to
the east and by Grassy Island Road to the south.
 Hunt deer from a public road.
 Hunt with firearms from the right-of-way of any public road
north of U.S. 74 and west of U.S. 220.

from the Game land section:
Pee Dee River Game Land – Anson, Montgomery, Richmond and
Stanly counties (6,829 acres)
 Six-day-per-week area
 Gun Either-Sex Deer Season: Nov. 14 – Nov. 20 and Dec. 26 –
Jan. 1, except that part in Richmond Co. where the season is
Oct. 17 – 23 and Dec. 26 – Jan. 1 (moderate seasons).
 Use of center fire rifles is prohibited in that portion in Anson
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WISCONSIN HUNTERS LOOK!!!!!!!!

Wisconsin DNR and HSUS
WHAT WERE THEY THINKING---follow the link
http://www.dnr.state.wi.us/news/weekly.asp#art6

though the message is good, the DNR teaming up with the HSUS???????

and they wonder why the sportsmen don't have any trust in the DNR

send an email to Sec. Mat Frank and let him know what you think

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We are getting heat from these wackos about deerhunting with hounds but it will lead to all forms of hound hunting if we let them.I just sent a nice donation in to an organization that fights these people.Its sad to say but money is about the only to fight them the legal way but when they show up on my grounds that might be a little different.The best thing to do is if you are in a club or organization or hunt with bunnies find an organization that fights hound hunting heritage in your state and send in a donation,whatever you can afford.Good luck everyone and keep hunting with hounds alive for furure generations.Take a youngster and get them involved,they are the future.

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