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Wat about this I had a 7 yr old male that would locate and treea couple minutes check hisself then tree again. I dont recall him ever pulling over it. He was just trying to be accurate.I done ok in ukc hunts with this dog also.

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Where I hunt you will almost as many times as not be running multiple coon. I need a dog to tree the first one up, not the last one.
I cant stand a dog that locates and goes on, locates and goes on.

You do not need to sacrafice speed for accuracy.

The majority of the time a good quick accurate locator trees the coon from the body scent of the coon drifting down to it and the only time it needs to run a track is to get to the tree the coon is in. Many times I have wittnessed a dog locate a coon before it got to the tree.It trees because it smells the coon itself and knows its up there, not because it ran a track up the side of a tree.

Think about it, I believe i read somewhere that they believe a hounds sense of smell is a million times better than a humans. A coon stinks. heck if an old smelly one is down low you can catch a whiff of it yourself.

I consider the dog described to be a trailer to a fault and a very slow locator. He will only tree as a last resort. He will have a coon when he trees, but you are gonna see a lot of coon behind him, at least in my country.

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In the right weather conditions they can tell with out checking the trunk of the tree weather they are up there or not. Even then a smart dog will run a circle to see if it is in the center of the scent pool before he commits.
Another thing a dog can tell one coon from another and just becouse he checks doesn't mean he won't seatle. As long as the coon he was running is up he should stay. Even if there were others that come back down and ran.

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i would say the dog has got to much track on its mind..a dog should locate with its nose in the air, not on the ground..i agree with elvis, this type will not tree the first coon up..

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Hey Matt Marshall, want to sell this dog or better yet lets trade dogs?

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Hey Matt Marshall, want to sell this dog or better yet lets trade dogs?

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Originally posted by cwheeler
Wat about this I had a 7 yr old male that would locate and treea couple minutes check hisself then tree again. I dont recall him ever pulling over it. He was just trying to be accurate.I done ok in ukc hunts with this dog also.

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i have a female enghish that will circle give a locate and i can count useing the fingers on one hand the times she didn't have the coon if the coon moves to the edge of the tree she will sit down under the coon she the kind of a dog that will tree to you get there or the sun comes up whichever is first.

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Here is a little more info. I think the dog was first introduced to a coon on the ground and that is where his mind is at from time to time. When he was a pup we gave half of him to a friend to get started. The first couple of coon that he saw came out of a cage and he caught them on the ground. We got him back and it took a little while for him to realize that coons do climb. I really don't think it is a trait of his breeding ,but rather a learned habit. I was looking to see if this had happened to anyone else before I said what I thought the problem was. Like I said before he does not do it a lot now, but he did when he was a little younger and still does from time to time. I really believe people turn way too many coon out to the young dogs rather than letting the dog use and develop their nose and own natural ability. Just my thoughts.

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Here is a little more info. I think the dog was first introduced to a coon on the ground and that is where his mind is at from time to time. When he was a pup we gave half of him to a friend to get started. The first couple of coon that he saw came out of a cage and he caught them on the ground. We got him back and it took a little while for him to realize that coons do climb. I really don't think it is a trait of his breeding ,but rather a learned habit. I was looking to see if this had happened to anyone else before I said what I thought the problem was. Like I said before he does not do it a lot now, but he did when he was a little younger and still does from time to time. I really believe people turn way too many coon out to the young dogs rather than letting the dog use and develop their nose and own natural ability. Just my thoughts.

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Originally posted by elvis
I agree Matt.
also,"jumping" coon out of a tree to run again will get a young dog "milling" a tree faster than anything i know of.

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my HI-LO dog does it I think its a good thing in pleasure or comp hunting.
You gotta see the coon to get +points
i want my dog to make one circle and lock down

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you should be proud of the dog you have he is doing what alot of the old stock done checking to see if the coon tapt the tree or is still up there sounds like he may be a little slower than the old blood but if he was mine i would be proud to own him just my thoughts big b

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