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Bill Clinton came from humble roots and used to attend coon suppers at coon clubs. I don't think he forgot where he came from.

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Yeah. I guess thats why he now lives in New York City. They now list their State residency in New York. I wonder when he was last in Arkansas????Ken Grant

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Arkansas won't take him.

I hunt on a mans property in Crofton Ky, That has told me he was friends with Bill Clintons father. Bill never knew his real father, he lived in Cadiz Ky, He owned a feed mill just outside of town on hyway 68.

I don't remember what his name was but he used to go down to Arkansas hunting, anyway he was married and had extramarrital affairs with a woman who worked on the plantation {like father like son}. She became pregnate and had Bill, The man sent her money for 18 years {secretly}, untill Bill was out of High School.

I am just repeating what this man told me now, I would say he is very creditable. He told me it was obvious if you ever seen this mans other children.

Just a little tidbit of info on old SLICK WILLIE!

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??? What possible difference could this make? Redticks post just pointed out that Clinton had common roots when compared to the current candidates. Growing up and moving away doesn't erase his past. Ken, are you so anti-Clinton that you have blinded yourself?

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Many people are complaining about Bush havingour troops in Iraq, would they prefer the war be over here on US soil? The US has had wars here, where brother fought against brother. The civil war divided the country in half. Bush did not make a knee jerk reaction on 9/11. When he had to make a decision he made it and stood by it, not waffling. He has stood up to the terrorist and they don't like it. I don't believe that Kerry has the strenght or moral caracter that Bush has. Kerry is no more than a bully on the playground who tries to undermine others and will say the other guy is wrong no matter which way they act or decide. There is no right way for Kerry. He does not have stranght in his convections.

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The last thing we need is a liberal in charge.Kerry has a record of 20 years of being The (most liberal). And most of the time changes his mind on what side hes on. YA!!!!WE really need a guy like that.(LOL)....Hes not doing to change at all.What hes tell you at the debates is a( bunch of bull) just to be (President)..........About ((BILL Clinton)) thats his adopted name he got from his step father.His REAL father s LAST name was (Blith).I think thats how you spell it I could be wrong..I really thought it was funny when he was over seas looking for his relitives named Clinton...LOL.......((John Kerry)) is a JOKE if you know all the facts about him and his past.The only ones going to vote for him is a liberal and the ones that vote the strait democratic ticket.They vote that way nomatter who the (guy) is...(The plain and simple truth)................CHET

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you sumed it up quite nicely JOHN KERRY is the better man
every thing bush does is wrong !!!!!!!!
his mom and dad should have raised a HOG that year
if BUSH is re-elected i will have to sell every thing i own
and go on welfare witch can't be that bad i know BUSH will
be paying for it all or should i say you will ether way i will
have a big belly and so will my childrend !!!!!
and the nice thing is i don't have to pay TAX'S

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you sumed it up quite nicely JOHN KERRY is the better man
every thing bush does is wrong !!!!!!!!
his mom and dad should have raised a HOG that year
if BUSH is re-elected i will have to sell every thing i own
and go on welfare witch can't be that bad i know BUSH will
be paying for it all or should i say you will ether way i will
have a big belly and so will my childrend !!!!!
and the nice thing is i don't have to pay TAX'S

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If you listen to all the liberals. (WHEN) Bush wins their whole world is going to come to a end..They are all going to sell everything they own and live in a hole somewhere.((WOW))....What a way to think!!!!((WELL)) Maybe that would be a good thing..LOL............................................CHET

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WHO SAID I WAS A LIBERAL ? HHHHMMMMMMM
all i know is that the jobs around my area don't pay
more than $7.00 to $ 9.00 hr and thats not bad if you can find
one that is hirering ! all the companys here are laying off
or closing down the last place i worked i was there 11 years
and it was family owned and run well but when time got tuff
around 2001 they sold it to park ohio they also own 63 other
companys and like so many others they closed us down to
send our jobs to one of there low wage plants (10.00 hr)
i know they saved money because we made 11.00 hr !!!
wow now thats good we only lost 200 jobs i can't see
4 more years of what i have been going through

IF WE THE U.S.A CAN'T TAKE CARE OF OURSELFS
HOW CAN WE HELP OTHER COUNTRYS !!!!!!!!!

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WHO SAID I WAS A LIBERAL ? HHHHMMMMMMM
all i know is that the jobs around my area don't pay
more than $7.00 to $ 9.00 hr and thats not bad if you can find
one that is hirering ! all the companys here are laying off
or closing down the last place i worked i was there 11 years
and it was family owned and run well but when time got tuff
around 2001 they sold it to park ohio they also own 63 other
companys and like so many others they closed us down to
send our jobs to one of there low wage plants (10.00 hr)
i know they saved money because we made 11.00 hr !!!
wow now thats good we only lost 200 jobs i can't see
4 more years of what i have been going through

IF WE THE U.S.A CAN'T TAKE CARE OF OURSELFS
HOW CAN WE HELP OTHER COUNTRYS !!!!!!!!!

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I think that 40% will vote Republican no matter what. I believe that 40% will vote Democrat no matter what. It's the middle 20% that matter.

I've never voted a straight ticket in my life. I'm considering it this time.

I really believe, that if we have a Democrat controlled Congress, we need a Republican President. If we have a Republican controlled Congress (like we do now), we need a Democratic President. We need to keep our checks and balances in place.

I think it's sad that instead of us having 50 states represented, we are now in a position of having two parties represented.

I wish I could vote for the best man for the job, but that doesn't seem to be the case anymore. I now have to choose between two parties. Given that, and given that I believe in freedom for all, and discrimination toward none (blacks, women, gays, minority religions, minority ethnic groups, etc.) I have to vote for the party of the working class, Democrat.

I have to vote for the party that supports Social Security. The party that supports Medicare. The party that supports healthcare for all Americans (not just those that can afford it). The party that supports higher education opportunities for all (not just the rich). The party that supports our Constitution (and the freedom it provides). The party that supports working class Americans.

I can not support a party (Republican) that wants to make discrimination against minority groups (blacks, women, gays, etc.) legal. I can not support a party that wants to strip legal rights and protections away from America.

In my personal life, I am very conservative, and would fit the Republican profile. My difference with the party is that I don't believe that all of you should be mandated to believe as I do, live as I do, worship God as I do, follow my ideals. You should be free to be you (however different you may be) as long as you don't infringe on my rights.

I don't like what people such as Larry Flynt (pornography purveyor) or Howard Stern (pornography and obscenity) purvey, but I respect their rights, as a free citizen to do so (I don't have to partake). But, to restrict their freedoms is, in a sense, to DISRECT THE ENTIRE CONCEPT OF FREEDOM, Do I respect their positions? NO. But, I do respect their rights to voice their opinions (however disageeable and offensive they may be).

This is the land of the brave, home of the free. Agree or disagree, lets never take FREEDOM AWAY FROM AMERICA!

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Honilia, one of my Sr Residents informed us about the government run healthcare the democrats want to model ours after in Canada. He said you would not like it if you actually had to live there and suffer under the rationed care and extreme high taxes to pay for that same rationed care.

See his sister is an OB/GYN in Canada. Her husband had rectal bleeding, which you get colonoscopy for to rule out malignancy. Well he was put on the list, and it took almost a year for him to get scoped. See the healthcare is rationed, so they only had a certian number of scopes and he was placed in line. That line gave him a death sentence as he had liver metastisis before he was ever diagnosed with colon cancer from the scope.

Now his wife should have had him on a plane to the USA when she learned that he could not get the scope in a timely fashion, but she did not. That's what government healthcare gets you.

As for school only for the rich, I have been in school since 1992 and I can tell you without a doubt it is harder for someone that works to go to college than the sorry bum. They get babysitting paid for, free grants to pay for tuition and books, and mileage just to go to school in addition to their other handouts and not hit a lick at anything. Then they gripe because they have to maintain a C average to keep their school handouts.

EVERY PERSON IN THE US HAS ACCESS TO COLLEGE, if they are willing to do what it takes then the door is wide open for them. There is NO EXCUSE.

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This is the land of the brave, home of the free. Agree or disagree, lets never take FREEDOM AWAY FROM AMERICA!

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Kerry respects the Bill of Rights, he wouldn't weaken then like Bush did with his "Patriot Act". That includes the Right To Bear Arms.

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Now, Dave that is FUNNY......considering his (Kerry) voting record. You keep on believing that, and one day you'll get what you ask for.

Me, I don't have blinders on so I'll vote for the best man......our current Commander In Chief.....

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Many people seem to forget that 9/11 happened on our President's watch. He had a national crisis (and global) to deal with and he's handling it with the confidence and ability of a qualified leader of this great country. And that incident had far reaching negative impact on ALL lives, jobs and life styles in this country. We have recovered remarkably well from the THOUSANDS of jobs and lifestyles affected by the 9/11 episode.

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I think that 40% will vote Republican no matter what. I believe that 40% will vote Democrat no matter what. It's the middle 20% that matter.


This is the land of the brave, home of the free. Agree or disagree, lets never take FREEDOM AWAY FROM AMERICA!

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I believe that moving to NYC does make you forget. \

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Question for Redtick - if Kerry is for guns and gun ownership then why has he voted to shut down gun shows, in 1990 Kerry's consistant anti-gun votes, a gun ban amendment was passed on 6/28/90, this spring Kerry voted to ban nearly every type of center-fire hunting rifle ammunition in the US? Kerry's wife self proclaimed favorite charity is the Tides Foundation, and has invested a small fortune into anti-gun rights schemes. One of Kerry's largest backers is George Soros (only the 28th rischest man in the US) who has contributed 15 million to the Kerry campaign and also invested millions in schemes to drug legislation and fireare prohibition and was a major backer of the Million Mom March and the International Action Network of Small Arms, which is a cabal of more that 500 anti-gun groups operating in nearly 100 countries. And why does the Humane Society of the US and the Fund for Animals (an extremest group that seeks to end all hunting in America call Kerry an animal protection leader and give him a 100% rating on his voting record on animal issues.

Question for oakridge 1 - I am originally from MI and when I lived there jobs were low, and my county had an extremely high unemployment rate and that was 13 years ago, Bush had nothing to do with it. The us has been losing jobs years before Bush was President, the major factor of jobs going overseas is NAFTA. Americans want MONEY and lots of it, so the unions help employees to get higher salaries, which increases the cost of the products, and the cycle has started. Add into that the number of rediculous extreme lawsuits (some by attorney Edwards) which incfrease the cost of health care. Employers get tired of it and move plants and factories where the labor is less expensive. What is Kerry doing to do to keep business from moving, he can't force then to keep their plants here. Many business are global and I can understand why financially business's move plants and factories overseas, where employees don't need to have the newest, vehicle or the hugh house (the average size house where I live now is 2,000 - 4,000 sq ft) or expensive toys (boats, snowmobiles). Face it to many people in the US all that counts is money and how much you have, the more people have the more then want and they are never satisfied. I work for a small business and we have no health insurance, and this year there were no raises, but I have an job and skills.

Now a question for Honliegh - Kerry is for the freedom of gay marriage which is against the bible. I guess it doesn't matter to many if he is for a style of life that is immoral, and ya talk about the immoral value of Clinton's action while in office, or Kennedy's. Bush feels that gay marriage is wrong (as the bible says) so is God wrong too?

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OK, whatever you say.

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Ken, Bruce has a habit of that I see. Anyone can pull certain parts of a post, quote it - and make them look "bad" or wrong.

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I have to vote for the party that supports Social Security. The party that supports Medicare. The party that supports healthcare for all Americans (not just those that can afford it). The party that supports higher education opportunities for all (not just the rich). The party that supports our Constitution (and the freedom it provides). The party that supports working class Americans.

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Many people seem to forget that 9/11 happened on our President's watch. He had a national crisis (and global) to deal with and he's handling it with the confidence and ability of a qualified leader of this great country. And that incident had far reaching negative impact on ALL lives, jobs and life styles in this country. We have recovered remarkably well from the THOUSANDS of jobs and lifestyles affected by the 9/11 episode.

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Anyone can pull certain parts of a post, quote it - and make them look "bad" or wrong.

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Well, some peoples quotes are a lot easier to work with...

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