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josh
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I have always liked purina but have been looking for an alternative since the price seems to go up every week....

I started feeding diamond a couple months ago, I have noticed looser stools and one dog started shaking her head also, I never attributed it to the feed, but after reading this.....

ill probably go back to purina, till I find somthing Im happier with.

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Lee Stocking
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For those that dont like Diamond(im not 100% on them either) look this thread over, it is a good thread about feeds.

http://forum.prohound.com/viewtopic...asc&start=0

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im feedin diamond 24/20 now, notice alot of loose stool, and my old dog does do the head shaking thing, never would have thought it was from the feed? im going to switch back to black gold when i run out and see if they do any better as i can get diamond 24/20 for $20 a bag and black gold for $24, both locally

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I like Diamond Chicken & Rice or Lamb and Rice. I fed it half and half with Extreme Athelete to the dogs I hunted every night. They always looked good on it to me. Just a little pricey thats the only complaint I have with it. No by products....floor sweepings ect...

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I wonder how many do as much research on the food they feed there kids as what they do on there dogs. LOL

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Thats a good one. We have allready done research for feeding our kids. Its McDonalds, Hardees, Wendys, Pizza Hut, Taco Bell, Subway and the list goes on. Even corn based dog feeds are better than the crap we eat!!!!!

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Funny thing about feed. Just last month I switched to a higher quality (at least I thought) feed with no corn. First ingredient was fresh chicken then chicken meal, then on down the line.

Prior to this I was using Black Gold and before that Hi-Standard. I think the dogs produced less waste on the feed with corn than no corn. I am just going to go back to my hi-standard 24/20. It is cheaper, less waste, and the dogs look exactly the same as the $10 a more bag stuff....

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What is funny is the fact that what the experts say is good for them today will be differant tomorrow and everyone will jump to that food. To me an expert is a cross between a person full of himself and a liar. LOL
But then most of the child experts don't have a child. Never worked in a child care BUT THEY DID READ A BOOK.

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Either way you slice it dogs are Carnivores. I have never seen a wild dog out in the corn patch eating corn. I have seen them eating road kill. I understand the way some think I have been feeding the same feed you have for years too. Understand the feed fads too, not kean on that crap. Didnt the dog feed industry sky rocket cost when the horse killing stop?

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hey lee, how you been? havent heard from ron in a long time, is he still huntin, i asked him a few weeks ago but never got a responce on here. i gotta few fair hounds, got one 14 mo. old dog that is goin to be extremely tough, just hope i can do him justice in the hunts

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I have seen dogs 'grazing' and seen them eat corn. Yes, they are meat eaters, but they do like their 'veggies' too.

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HAVE U FEED THIS KIND OF FOOD ? IF SO, HOW DID YOUR DOGS DO WHEN HUNTED HARD ? U CAN PM ME IF U WANT. THANKS, MARTY..........

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Experiment.

I think it would be neat to take five male pups out of a litter, raise them for two years, hunt them the same amount of time, and feed them each a different type of food, and making sure each food had the same xx% protien & xx% fat.

I wonder if there would be a noticable difference in performance, coat etc....

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B Downing
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Diamond Premium! (green bag)
wouldn't feed anything else.

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What is funny is the fact that what the experts say is good for them today will be differant tomorrow and everyone will jump to that food. To me an expert is a cross between a person full of himself and a liar. LOL
But then most of the child experts don't have a child. Never worked in a child care BUT THEY DID READ A BOOK.




You tickle me at how old I am. Awhile ago, we ate food and what scraps were left over was called feed called dogfeed. I used to be an expert when we topped out hogs and calves based on extractable N nitrogen called crude protein, digestible protein and Total Digestible Nutrients. N X 2.5= digestible , N X 6.25 = crude, and X times TDN included fat a essential elements. And all that depended on whether it was a simple stomacked animal or a ruminant. SO!!! it sho has bin funny watching the nutritionist trying to put their brain in reverse (I got a brain like a 8N ford Tractor, Got 3 forwards and a High and low reverse) such as trying to develop a ration to make a fat woman get curvey. But i believe that it is still as simple now as it was back then, What makes a fat woman get fat is laying around on her fat as-. We take too good care of them for a moments pleasure. She no longer has to get up and pull the taters for her carbos, no longer has to chase the cow and pull tits for dairy producks and tone out them fatty muscles splitting wood to keep me warm. What part of a woman contains the most fat? If it's more than a handfull I figure I got to cut her back a bit. And that means the dogs get more tablescraps. The old lady happy, the dogs are happy and I's happy.

I have fed Yellow Diamond (Maintenace) for twenty years, I n the summer they get a handfull, In the winter when hunting hard, they get more. Just how much more depends on the fact that crops grow best in the shade of the farmer.

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I have fed the Green bag of Diamond for more year's than I can remember. When it's time to start feedin a litter that's what they get from the first meal to their last.

My pup's are alway's big & healthy with muscle on not just fat & full of p!$$ & vinegar. Some are of equal quality but very few, if you look around at some of the rat's on here for sale you'll see.

Gave up that over priced puppy food decade's ago & have absolutely no desire to switch feed's. I don't know 'bout this head shakin suposedly caused by feeding Diamond either & it carry's "0" weight to me. Never & I mean never have I had to deal with any ear issue's.

You can check out our thread's to see what some 100% diamond raised hound's look like. Glossy coat's,muscle,energetic This list goes on...............

We got a hound or two that can tree a coon when condition's are just perfect & everyone is a Gr.Ch. or is on their way. Not the kind you have to show for two year's to get the title's either & most born here & if not raised from pup's here.

Lost track of how many time's we won with one during the purty contest & then again at nite.

Point finger's at whatever ya need to but ever stop & think that maybe there is a genetic reason for some of these issue's? Some dawg's you just flat can't get weight on to stay. We have eliminated them model's from our gene pool year's ago & not dealin with health issue's or givin the vet money to build a new wing.

If they need babied along & you constantly gotta be givin them this or that to keep them healthy they will not be at my place & chance's are no one else' either.

Just my experience with a steady 8-15 around at a time for thirty plus year's...

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been feeding diamond for years there was a time they didn't like i guess they changed the formula then changed it back to the old formula i have never had any loose stools from diamond.
for you that say your getting loose stools on diamond i would venture to say you made an abrubt change in the food and i don't care what your feeding if you abrubtly change your food the stools will be loose.

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