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Knox
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I wonder.........

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Originally posted by Lee Stocking
You and Trackdriver need not be in the woods, yall need to be downtown DC with thre rest of the greedy sob's trying to run your lives. You two are blind as a bat.

If I could coon hunt around D.C ?............LOL,

Maybe I could be the Czar over coon-hunting, yeah...........LOL

..................................Tim

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john nannemann
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Re: I wonder.........

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Originally posted by Knox
If I could coon hunt around D.C ?............LOL,

Maybe I could be the Czar over coon-hunting, yeah...........LOL

..................................Tim

not possible tim, czar sustein wants to ban ALL HUNTING. B.O. PUT HIM IN FIRST.

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Well I am glad my vote for Obama counted....

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john nannemann
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quote:
Originally posted by berger
Well I am glad my vote for Obama counted....

why, do you dislike hunting also? do you, being from iowa, dislike folks to buy ya'lls pork for consumption? are you a collectivist? why?

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09-26-2009 06:35 PM

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Sure hope what that internet tough fool said about President Obama don't happen? Where's racist creek? He stole creek's line!

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quote:
Originally posted by trackdriver
Sure hope what that internet tough fool said about President Obama don't happen? Where's racist creek? He stole creek's line!

what line you talking about, track? who?

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trackdriver
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Steve something! Maybe i took it wrong but don't dead people have holidays named after them?

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are you a collectivist?

No I am a Independant Conservative. The Republicans have become to corrupt and liberal for my taste. An you keep voting them in, unless we quit voting for them they will never be conservative and make good decisions for the Citizens of the USA.

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both major parties are bought and pd. for by the big vested interest groups, they prosper-the citizen shoulders the burden... the parties propogate propoganda, party loyals drink the koolaid, argue-bicker-blame-name call, but the play goes on, sometimes the cast changes, but the plot remains the same... nothing will change as long as big $$ controls the parties... sometimes a bit is dribbled to the citizens to keep them complacent, give a little to keep a lot philosophy... voting-supporting either major party just insures more of the same... spewing hate as some do toward either party, political idealology only keeps the status quo intact... real change is needed, but will never happen as long as the play that has been on stage for quite awhile continues its run...

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john nannemann
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quote:
Originally posted by berger
No I am a Independant Conservative. The Republicans have become to corrupt and liberal for my taste. An you keep voting them in, unless we quit voting for them they will never be conservative and make good decisions for the Citizens of the USA.

good answer again berger. i think you may be an even more principled man then me. i think i like you. teach me how to not be so pragmatic in this corrupt world.

did you primary for ron paul?

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Originally posted by trackdriver
Steve something! Maybe i took it wrong but don't dead people have holidays named after them?

i should have went back and read all the posts. that IS not the way of change of the position i desire or advocate. i disapprove steve something's message. but i don't think lc would ever write something like that, i haven't seen it anyway.

besides the national tragedy this would be, and if you have read all me posts you would know i've never used this word concerning b.o., but biden is an idiot, plain and simple.

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i don't think the republicans are as corrupt as the democrates. of course some are. there are also degrees of corruption too. taking a cup of coffee from a lobbiest is not the same as taking a $10,000 bribe. the msm will crucify a republican for the slightest slip of the tonge and not mention a bleatant screwup by a demoncrate. republicans are more conservative and the democrates or more liberal. that means they, the democrates want to go a different way. the problem is that the different way is untried and unproven and government run. the msm has a dual standard. a stringent one for the republicnas and a loose, or liberal one, for the democrates. until we had fox news, conservative talk radio, and the internet, we didn't know how misinformed and uninformed we were. even the liberals were misinformed. if we had had fox news in the late 50s and early 60s, we would have won the vietnam war. now we come to the van jones debacle, william ayers, the so called rev. wright, and cass sunstein. together, they clearly and convinceingly prove to most of us that nobama is either crazy, a fool and perhaps unamerican and definitely unsaved.
i remember how the msm feasted on the possibility that bush may have lied about his national guard experience. nothing negative was said about nobama having no military experience and instead he was credited with having experience with acorn as community organizer. btw, what neighborhood was it that wasn't organized. where was this neighborhood that didn't have a mayor, a town hall, board of commisioners, etc.? did nobama establish some neighborhood somewhere, like deadwood?

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Of course you wouldn't think that tricky dick. Fox new need he say more!

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Rem700
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Al Capone was also a community organizer.

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Hitler and stalin were conseratives.

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quote:
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Hitler and stalin were conseratives.

Hitler come out of the Democrat progressive party of Germany and m by his voiced beliefs about govt, was a full blown socialist.

Saying someone is a "conservative" means nothing. Someone can be a "conservative" in any aspect of their life.

Track, I noticed you accused me of being a racist again. Please show proof as to why you say that. You have been called put numerous times but you refuse to show proof.

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Marion E. Lee
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trackdriver and knox

i hope you know that if these dangerous people in power at this time get what they are after you will be going to those trees looking over your shoulders hoping to not be seen and climbing trees to get the coon out because your old trusty coonhunting rifle will be a distant memory or you will not be able to afford the shells one or the other but im figuring on both.............but get to climbing and practice up boys those coon may be all you can get ahold of to put in those empty stomachs of yours soon............keep supporting him as this country goes belly up........you two are unbelievably blind and ignorant to your immediate surroundings........just wake up admit you got fooled and made a critical error and try to do something about it you are destined to be eating with chopsticks soon if you can beg a bag of rice off your new landlords

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Knox
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Re: trackdriver and knox

quote:
Originally posted by Marion E. Lee
i hope you know that if these dangerous people in power at this time get what they are after you will be going to those trees looking over your shoulders hoping to not be seen and climbing trees to get the coon out because your old trusty coonhunting rifle will be a distant memory or you will not be able to afford the shells one or the other but im figuring on both.............but get to climbing and practice up boys those coon may be all you can get ahold of to put in those empty stomachs of yours soon............keep supporting him as this country goes belly up........you two are unbelievably blind and ignorant to your immediate surroundings........just wake up admit you got fooled and made a critical error and try to do something about it you are destined to be eating with chopsticks soon if you can beg a bag of rice off your new landlords

The only time I was fooled is when I voted for Bush the 2nd term, what a mistake.
At the end of Obama'a term I will know then if I made a mistake in voting for him. Bush has us so far in debt with China its not even being talked about any more. I can think and judge for my self, dont need any help from you or liberalcreek. Thanks for trying to bring me to your guys way of thinking though, nice to see your being so considerate..........LOL.......

Have a good day.........Tim

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Re: trackdriver and knox

quote:
Originally posted by Marion E. Lee
i hope you know that if these dangerous people in power at this time get what they are after you will be going to those trees looking over your shoulders hoping to not be seen and climbing trees to get the coon out because your old trusty coonhunting rifle will be a distant memory or you will not be able to afford the shells one or the other but im figuring on both.............but get to climbing and practice up boys those coon may be all you can get ahold of to put in those empty stomachs of yours soon............keep supporting him as this country goes belly up........you two are unbelievably blind and ignorant to your immediate surroundings........just wake up admit you got fooled and made a critical error and try to do something about it you are destined to be eating with chopsticks soon if you can beg a bag of rice off your new landlords

Marion...How many times have you seen an idiot admit they are an idiot....

Knox and Trackdriver...Case in point.

Knox says GW Bush pout us in debt...TRUE...but he never mentions the spending policies of the Democrats that they denied investigations into.

Knox never mentions the fact that Obama has already spent more money than every other President and war combined. His spending bills will cost us over $90 TRILLION in interest alone. Yet he never mentions it.

He overlooks the radicals Obama has placed as bill writers and policy makers that have noone to answer to but him alone.

When Knox says he will see at the bend of his first term, he is lying. He would support Obama if Obama himself come to his house and said he wanted to murder the firstborn in every household.

Trackdriver never offers any reasons as to why he supports Obama, he just calls those who oppose him a racist.

Like Obama's favorite radical author, Saul Alinsky, Trackdriver uses terms and accusations to keep from having to post facts and truth. When he cant defend himself or his views he calls you as racist and runs like a scalded dog. He is the epitome of a blind Obama supporter and coward.

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Marion E. Lee
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Bush had us so far in debt? wow that is laughable and buddy if it takes you three more years to realize your mistake god help us all ..................maybe there truly are americans that are that slow to see whats directly in front of them...............thats how that man was elected to start with i suppose .........couldn't understand how people could be so blind until now after witnessing your outlook on this matter. You surely realize the economy is completely tanking while Obama is saying we are improving every day what a joke that is. He doesnt have a clue or he believes we retarded americans will take whatever he says as gospel. A restaurant opened here locally in a town of 10000 people and they had almost 700 applications for $8 an hour jobs....... if that isnt dismal to you im done wasting my time trying to get you to open your eyes....tilt your head down man its pouring rain and youre drowning

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Knox
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I understand.....

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Originally posted by Marion E. Lee
Bush had us so far in debt? wow that is laughable and buddy if it takes you three more years to realize your mistake god help us all ..................maybe there truly are americans that are that slow to see whats directly in front of them...............thats how that man was elected to start with i suppose .........couldn't understand how people could be so blind until now after witnessing your outlook on this matter. You surely realize the economy is completely tanking while Obama is saying we are improving every day what a joke that is. He doesnt have a clue or he believes we retarded americans will take whatever he says as gospel. A restaurant opened here locally in a town of 10000 people and they had almost 700 applications for $8 an hour jobs....... if that isnt dismal to you im done wasting my time trying to get you to open your eyes....tilt your head down man its pouring rain and youre drowning

But, Obama cant be blamed for that, the jobs were folding left and right under Bush's 2 terms.
Where I live, the economy is turning around, I work for the City of Peru, they have hired several employees since I started with them, just in my department. My wife is a 2nd grade School teacher in our town, and they too have hired several new teachers this year. I know its bad out there, peoples lives have been ruined, but it started long before Obama.As far as Bush, the wars he put us in are costing multi-millions per month, but most have forgotton about that.

I vote for someone regardless of political status, I have voted for both parties.
Time will tell about Obama, I hope and believe he will do a good job, we will see.
Like it or not,.........Obama is our President, and if the likes of liberalcreek and others dont respect him for the office he holds, that right there is as Anti-American as it gets.
What really got me paying closer attention to Obama was all the lies that were being told about him, him being Muslim, him not being a U.S. citizen, being associated with terrorists, etc.etc...
ALL a lie, even conservitives like Bill O'reilly have debunked all those stories.
Bottom line, think and believe the way you want, I know I dont want my 5 year old little girl growing up and acting , thinking like liberalcreek, to me that is an extremist, pretty close to a Timothy McVeigh.....................................................Tim

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Re: I understand.....

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Like it or not,.........Obama is our President, and if the likes of liberalcreek and others dont respect him for the office he holds, that right there is as Anti-American as it gets.

Really?? You might want to tell the founding fathers that Knox.

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What really got me paying closer attention to Obama was all the lies that were being told about him, him being Muslim, him not being a U.S. citizen, being associated with terrorists, etc.etc...

What lies Knox. You have yet to disprove ANY of the so called "lies" about Obama and his ties to terrorists, racists, communists, etc. YOU CANT DISPROVE THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE TRUE.

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ALL a lie, even conservitives like Bill O'reilly have debunked all those stories.

OReilly a "conservative" ?? LOL! and hitler l.oved the Jewish people.

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Originally posted by Knox

Bottom line, think and believe the way you want, I know I dont want my 5 year old little girl growing up and acting , thinking like liberalcreek, to me that is an extremist, pretty close to a Timothy McVeigh.....................................................Tim

And the slam and accusing me of being a racist or a terrorist always comes back from knox. typical.

Yet Knox wants his daughter to see her father supporting a man who called children "punishments", sentenced her to a HUGE tax burden before she has even got old enough to hold a job, appointed radicals to his administration that has called for the overthrow of America by Socialism. Yeah, your a heck of a parent Knox. Keep brainwashing them. Obama is proud of ya.

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You can blam Bush yes. But you can blame Obama twice over because he is carrying on the tradition. Obama has not done one thing for this country regarding helping out in manufacturing jobs. If he has some one needs to open my eyes, I deal in manufacturing every day.

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quote:
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Hitler and stalin were conseratives.

track, the above statement is true but INCOMPLETE. hitler and stalin were conservative collectivist statists.

the equivalent of the hard left in this country. the hard right in this country i suppose would have to be anarchists, no government at all. somewhere the hard left communists tend to merge with the hard right anarchists.

a true conservative in this country wishes to "conserve" the original constitution and bill of rights(and the amendments) of the united states of america and all the ideals that it encompassed. it is TRUE Liberalism, not the "thing" that is called liberalism today which is really "conservative collectivist statism". which, today's "liberalism", at it's root, is a form of "militarism" i.e., "state" rule.

i suppose a "racist" can encompass ANY of the above range of political ideals, racism and political function really don't have anything to do with each other ideologically, EXCEPT that a TRUE CONSERVATIVE of this country could never TRULY be a racist and truly follow the original intent, it would violate the tenets of the constitution. if they claimed or "acted" both, they don't really understand the ideas of this countries founding principals. or they are a hypocrite.

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john nannemann
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turning private debt, liabilities, and risk into PUBLIC debt, liabilities, and risk causes the individual problems and risk to become societal problems and risk. could it be, maybe, IS THIS, why the founders DEMANDED uniform bankruptcy laws IN THE CONSTITUTION?

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