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jmg
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Terry & Randy i support this 1oo%.

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lightning1
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Registered: Oct 2007
Location: Iowa
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quote:
Originally posted by Randy Tallon
UKC, PKC, AKC all have a vested interest in this issue. We shouldn't need to "suggest" to them to increase their fees for this. As a vested interest they should be informing us that fifty cents or even a dollar from every entry will be placed towards this issue. If these domestic terrorists are allowed to continue in their ways I lose a piece of my way of life. UKC, PKC, and AKC lose.....period. C'mon UKC, ask for $1.00 from every entry to go towards a legal fund for this fight.


I agree with this but better yet the KC's should try to form a unified force aligned with the sportsman alliance and be talking to the NRA to form a group big enough to matter. When bo said he supported AR he knew he blew the 10% homo population out of the water, unlike klinton.

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Guys

this would help in a way you couldnt amagin.I'll tell ya me and Sherry support it.We all need a entity to help all of us who own a pet.


DOES ukc agree to be supportive of this.If not they should be and any one else that has a intrest in pets.

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skyblu
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Location: Texas
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H$U$ Misleads the public

Not convinced about HSUS misleading the public?
http://www.v-abs.com/HSUS.htm and
http://www.humanewatch.org What kind
of group besides PETA— wants to hire convicted felons?
HSUS. Yet, HSUS contributed $$ toward the proposed law against
radical extremists targeting scientists and their families in
CA. Why? Because HSUS is attempting to make it look like
they don’t condone violence, yet HSUS does fundraisers for
convicted eco-terrorists, one of which was on 12/13/08.

In 2005 Pacelle announced the formation of a new “Animal
Protection Litigation Section” within HSUS, dedicated to “the process of researching, preparing, and prosecuting anima protection lawsuits in state and federal court.”

What this really means is HSUS becomes involved in
LEGISLATION aimed at stopping the selling of pets, notably
dogs; HSUS puts videos on mainstream TV and then tells the
public to donate, while saying HSUS is busting dog kennels—but behind the scenes, they are advising cities to implement
sterilization of all pets, no buying, no breeding of animals,
and forced adoption of shelter animals, not buying from stores;
HSUS attempts to help pass laws pushing MSN, forfeiture of
dogs, and restrictions of pets including no tethering, etc]

2000………….HSUS uses convicted felon, avowed member of Animal
Liberation Front (ALF), JP Goodwin (2008)–Goodwin is claimed
to be an “expert” in dogfighting by HSUS, however when in court
to testify as such, the court found he was NOT an expert. He may have experience being in prison, but he’s not an expert on dogs In addition to the HSUS flagship offices in Maryland and DC,
the organization’s global network includes control over the
following legal corporations (this list is evolving as new
information becomes available):

Nonprofit affiliates:

Alice Morgan Wright-Edith Goode Fund (DC);
Alternative Congress Trust (DC);
Animal Channel (DC);
Association Humanataria De Costa Rica;
Center for the Respect of Life and Environment (DC);
Charlotte and William Parks Foundation for Animal Welfare (DC);
Conservation Endowment Fund (see ICEC) (CA);
Earth Restoration Corps. (DC);
Earthkind Inc. (DC);
Earthkind International Inc. (DC);
Earthkind USA (DC);
Earthkind USA (MT);
Earthkind UK [ also affiliated with the International Fund for
Animal Welfare];
Earthvoice (DC);
Earthvoice International (DC);
Eating with a Conscience Campaign (DC);
HSUS Hollywood Office (formerly The Ark Trust Inc.) (CA);
Humane Society International (DC), which also operates
the International Center for Earth Concerns (ICEC) in Ojai,
California,
the Center for Earth Concerns in Costa Rica, and
the Conservation Endowment Fund in California;
Humane Society International Australian Office Inc.;
Humane Society International of Latin America;
Humane Society of the United States (DE);
Humane Society of the United States (MD);
Humane Society of the United States (MT);
Humane Society of the United States (PA);
Humane Society of the United States (VT);
Humane Society of=2
0the United States California Branch Inc.
(CA);
Humane Society of the United States New Jersey Branch Inc.
(NJ);
Humane Society of the United States Wildlife Land Trust (DC);
Humane Society of the United States Wildlife Land Trust (KS);
Humane Society of the United States Wildlife Land Trust (OK);
Humane Society of the United States Utah State Branch (UT);
Humane Society University (DC);
Institute for the Study of Animal Problems (DC);
Interfaith Council for the Protection of Animals and Nature
(GA);
International Society for the Protection of Animals (UK);
International Wilderness Leadership Wild Foundation Inc. [d/b/a
The WILD Foundation] (CA);
Kindness Club International Inc. (DC);
Meadowcreek Project Inc. (AR);
Meadowcreek Inc. (AR);
National Association for Humane and Environmental Education
(DC);
National Humane Education Center (VA);
Species Survival Network (MI);
Valerie Sheppard Humane Society University (DC);
Wildlife Rehabilitation Training Center (MA);
World Federation for the Protection of Animals Inc. (DC);
World Society for the Protection of Animals (DC);
World Society for the Protection of Animals (IA);
World Society for the Protection of Animals (ND);
World Society for the Protection of Animals (VT);
World Society for the Protection of Animals - Canada;
World Society for the Protection of Animals - Deutschland;
World Society for the Protection of Animals International (UK);
World Society for the Protection of Animals UK (UK); and
Worldwide Network Inc. (DC).
For
-profit affiliates:
The Humane Catalog (VA);
Humane Equity Fund [defunct] (DC);
Humane Society Press (DC);
Humane Society of the United States Connecticut Branch Inc.
(CT);
Humane Society of the United States Virginia Branch Inc. (VA);
World Society for the Protection of Animals (MA);
World Society for the Protection of Animals - Australia;
World Society for the Protection of Animals Executor Services
(UK);
World Society for the Protection of Animals Trading Company
(UK).

This list may not be completely updated, but was at time of
initial printing by consumerfreedom.com–however after the huge
merger of many more extremist groups with HSUS, they now own millions of acres of land, and probably can BUY whatever POLITICIAN they can pay… We all know how corporate GREED has ruined this country? Do we want to encourage MORE of the same thing with our animals???!!

HSUS is responsible for helping Louisville KY come up with the
draconian pet laws now the subject of a federal lawsuit (2008),
in which the COURT denied the amicus briefs of HSUS TWICE (in
other words, the Court refused to allow it to be filed) And
WHY did the court twice DENY the briefs?

One reason is because, HSUS used one of the same attorneys
which was formerly representing one of the parties—that is
considered a conflict of interest!! You call that ethical???
HSUS spent lots of $$attorney fees to keep trying to file it,again and again!

HSUS is going around the country offering $5,000 for info
leading to conviction of “dogfighters” and has purposely
helped/engaged in orchestrated raids of large and medium
kennels of dogs, killing ALL the dogs upon seizure, even when the court verdicts led to acquittal of the owners. HSUS has bragged about taking down dog people and made a big deal of it,yet after 3-4 years, the accused are acquitted quickly but their dogs were killed right after the raids. This is becoming a pattern for the HSUS, which is NOT a legal enforcement team. Thought HSUS was about “saving” animals? Think again.

HSUS solicited donations for the Vick dogs when they did not HAVE custody of such dogs–but implied that they did!! In fact HSUS wrote letters advocating the dogs should be killed.Soliciting donations for dogs one doesn’t have amounts to fabrication. Lying.

HSUS purposely engages itself with local humane society groups so that HSUS can be involved in KENNEL RAIDS of small dogs,with the intent being that all such dogs will be seized and taken. HSUS often uses Best Friends, ASPCA, Last Chance for Animals and the like, to help out. No charges of abuse or gross neglect need be filed, in fact in one case, it was set up to seize the animals by saying there was an “environmental”violation of putting dog urine in the river. HSUS then broadcasts such RAIDS across the United States, and then helps groups sell the dogs the week following the RAID.

HSUS purposely has “merged” with other large AR groups (Doris
Day, etc) so they can take over the advocacy of AR issues in all areas (legislate, advocate,lawsuits) and WP admitted, they intend to push hard in several areas, including legislation and gaining donations. Just looking at the huge list of corporations owned by HSUS, do you not see the potential for harm? Do we need to become victims first,like in the mortgage business? Do we need to lose our rights before fighting this cancer?

See http://tinyurl.com/7dkh52 or
http://www.gerryspence.wordpress.com


Please forward to others who will do the same! The truth about
PETA has been out for awhile, but HSUS credibilty needs to be hit with the sledgehammer. And it’s now Hammertime! AB1634 was defeated in CA with massive numbers of opposition. We need to do the same, only MORE–against HSUS. Our work lies before
us. Now we need to do it now!

S. R. White

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Looks like we need a lot of help from people with power.That knows how to get things done.

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btt

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skyblu
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I contacted NRA

I talked with NRA Media Relations & asked if ALL of us with connections to animals (registries, dogfood companies, supply vendors, magazines, etc.) could form an alliance to funnel funds to NRA, would it be possible for NRA to include HSUS/PETA/ASPCA info in their TV and printed ads. The answer was YES, but I would need to contact the NRA Grass Roots department to get instructions for this. Since I'm in Texas, I talked to the TEXAS Grass Roots Rep. and he asked me to email a list of all the Texas bills. He explained that NRA cannot represent a particular group, but if ALL of those we contacted would mention they are funneling funds (donations) to NRA because of the Animal Rights legislation, they could probably help us by putting info in their ads. I emailed a list of the Texas bills for them to see. The Texas Grass Roots person was aware of the "Puppy Mill" bill & everyone I talked with at NRA is aware of the HSUS/PETA goals of ZERO domestic animal ownership. I sent an email to Wayne Cavanaugh asking if UKC could help to rally all of the animal-related entities since UKC has already formed an alliance of registries. I believe, from talking with the SUPER NICE PEOPLE at NRA that there's a GRASS ROOTS division of NRA in every state and I suggest that everyone contact NRA GRASS ROOTS in their state, talk with them & email them the actual "AR" legislative bills being presented, explaining that we'll funnel extra funds for NRA to get the word out to the general public about "AR" goals of ZERO pet ownership.

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