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Larry Atherton
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Justin,

The DNA markers used in canine parentage are not good predictors of genetic relatedness either.

Their one and only function is parentage.

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The fast ones catch alot of coon on the ground or put a lot of coons up where coons don't normally climb, small bushes, ect. The rest just sound fast..............................

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K. Singletary
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GrNtCh Awesome Attack, a House bred walker, fastest dog I've ever been in the woods with. May he RIP.

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jeff salyer
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fastest track dogs

PLATINUM CH SWIFT WATER CHEETAH or GRNITE CH STEWARTS SUPER SUNNY these to boys could flat drive a track like driving a car

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Justin Smith
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quote:
Originally posted by Larry Atherton
Justin,

The DNA markers used in canine parentage are not good predictors of genetic relatedness either.

Their one and only function is parentage.

I hear ya' ... but , if you can put together patterns that develop and in turn make predictions that come true .. it's a sign even if you can't go on record and explain it .

Or ... with enough info you can say that there is no pattern.

As it stands ... there is not enough info or data to say ... for sure ... on either side .

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Re: Justin...

quote:
Originally posted by JEFFHESTER
Point taken. I can see how it could benefit the coon hunter. But the only way I've been able to get good pups is trial and error. The walker men have maintained a consistency by line breeding.
There's probably not two walkers in the entire breed that aren't
related one way or another. I'm not saying this good or bad but
it seems to help the breed to some extent.
Jeff

IF ALL BREEDERS OF ALL BREEDS THOUGHT THIS WAY THERE WOULD BE ALOT MORE COONDOGS OUT THERE!!!!!!!!!JMO

LINE BREEDING AND INBREEDING WORKS GREAT IF YOUR WORKING WITH COONDOGS FROM THE GET GO!!!! AND THATS A FACT! IVE SEEN IT FIRST HAND!!!!

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True linebreeding has been one of the best methods of breeding for centuries ... it's crazy to think that there are still folks letting dogs hang up that are so uneducated about animal husbandry and breeding .

Most folks think that inbreeding is linebreeding and can't see a linebred pedigree from an inbred one .... or see closebred dogs and you can't give them a pup .

The old timers that founded our strains of working dogs and horses were alot sharper than we think we are ... the more advanced we get , the less educated the common is ... we got stuff so easy that we stopped thinking for ourselves.

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stinkbait1
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well.........................................there was this dog that marcel ledbetter owned who won the trophy for worlds fastest coondog, seems he could run a track so fast that he always beat the coon to the tree.lol

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ml2543
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What is the fastest English tracking dog out there? Or what line of English?

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GalaxieMan
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DNA

Rip I arree with your post 110%.But dna could do great things for us in the future.

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Steve Raleigh
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quote:
Originally posted by JOHNNY CHAPMAN
WIPEOUT KOY if theres one that can run a track faster than old Koy could bring him / her here and show me and Dewey if they can i will be glad to post about what a great track dog i saw

Johnny....Bellars Styker, arguably the fastest track dog in the history of coonhounds

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Fastest track dog...

It seems we have a bunch of super fast walker dogs out there. Which in my opinion strengthens my idea that your better bred dogs are line bred dogs. Like I said you'd be hard pressed to find
two walker dogs out there that aren't related someway or another.
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JEFFHESTER
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Fast dog...

quote:
Originally posted by stinkbait1
well.........................................there was this dog that marcel ledbetter owned who won the trophy for worlds fastest coondog, seems he could run a track so fast that he always beat the coon to the tree.lol

Now that's a fast dog. Wonder what breed he was?
Jeff

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Tomparsons
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Jeff you're joking right?

Please tell me you're joking. I'm not trying to step on any toes
but I've never seen a plott dog that could do anything
right or should I say two things right. O.k. if you say he's a
fast track dog I believe you. I don't see a thing mentioned
about his treeing ability!? The vast majority of plotts I've seen are fast game runners and couldn't get treed if they were
forced. You know as well as I do that fast game runners
usually end up treeing in a hole or coming back off of the
track. Does the majority of his tracks finish with a tree or a
hole? Does he run a lot of tracks red hot and then for no apparent reason shut up and come back to you? Like I said
I'm not trying to step on any toes just trying to figure out if
the plott is a track and tree dog.
Tom

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JEFFHESTER
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Tom.... no joke

Poacher is a top track and tree dog but thanks for your input.
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TOMPARSONS --- I BRED THE POACHER DOG AND IF HE STRIKES HE PRODUCES A TREED COON WITH PULL PRESSURE TREE POWER!!!!!!!

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Tom Parsons

quote:
Originally posted by RUGGED H PLOTTS
TOMPARSONS --- I BRED THE POACHER DOG AND IF HE STRIKES HE PRODUCES A TREED COON WITH PULL PRESSURE TREE POWER!!!!!!!

Allen also had top hound he called Buckshot I've seen him run
half a mile ahead of other dogs.
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Tomparsons
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O.K. guys

Poacher sounds like a nice hound.
Tom

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Larry Atherton
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Tomparsons,

I knew a shortlegged cowhocked female plott that was a top coon dog that was amazingly fast track dog. Between her size and cow hocked legs one would have thought she would break down fast during the night. Nope, she was as fast at the end of the night as the beginning.

Her name was Buckeye Annie. Look in some old Prohounds and you can see how well she won.

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JEFFHESTER
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Plott female

I hunted with a three legged dog named Zip sometime ago. She
was a good dog very independent that's the way I like them.
Jeff

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Easy on the wipeout dogs...take a look and see whats winnen everything...I own a wipeout dog ..direct son of Wipeout Willie...He`s fast...but he doesn`t over do it.,,EVERY DOG has its day,,thats what we seem to forget.

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I'll give you that!

quote:
Originally posted by amcnhunter
Easy on the wipeout dogs...take a look and see whats winnen everything...I own a wipeout dog ..direct son of Wipeout Willie...He`s fast...but he doesn`t over do it.,,EVERY DOG has its day,,thats what we seem to forget.

Must be something there or they wouldn't be winning.
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