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That is why I start my dogs on ivamec at eight weeks old. Start them on it and leave them on it. My dad had a dog that was on heartgaurd. The vet told him to worm all his dogs with ivamec and he could save money on the other by not needing it. He also told him to start them at eight weeks and they should never get heartworms. I did get an older female one time and suspected she had them. I started her on a very small amount of ivamec. It put her down about a week. Two weeks later I gave her a little more than the first time. She handled it fairly well. I repeated the process every two weeks until I had her on a full dose and she was fine after that. I was told I would kill her, but it didn't. Almost did but I done it in small amounts instead of a full dose. Every new dog I get will get a small dose to start and if they are fine they go to a full one the next time.

My dogs also don't get fleas and ticks as bad as some of my hunting buddies dogs who use other stuff. Never had a dog with the mange either.

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1/10 cc per 10 pounds. I don't think you are going to find pure (100%) ivomec (ivermectin). The highest concentrate I've seen is 1.87 % in horse paste. Once again, get 1% injectable solution of ivermectin which is the active ingredient in ivomec.
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where can i order this one ??? is there a place online our ts wont sell it to me cuz they know i was going to give it to my dogs

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A friend says they have to sell to you,Have no buisness in what the intentions are for.Hes a manager at a local tractor supply.

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he said go back in and tell them you just bought a pig lol..

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Ivermec kills all immature heart worms! That is why they don't start a pup on it till it is around 6 mo. of age. As for the older female that you gave a little at a time, that had no bearing because it won't kill adult worms. Read several posts earlier about the guy who gave Ivo to a dog he got that he never had checked & she still had them. It will make adult worms sterile according to my vet. But all your doing with any of these is killing the micro infestation your dog might have gotten in the last 30 days. It does not have a residual affect that actually kills whatever enters the dog via the mosquito. Everytime you give it to the dog, you kill whatever might have been contracted since the last dose. YOUR JUST KILING CURRENT INFESTATIONS! NOT PREVENTING THEM!

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what about breed females and females with pups on them

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heres a couple places to check : jefferslivestock.com and pbsanimalhealth.com hope this helps a little

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My vet said that from the studies he's read. A mature heartworm can live between 6-8 yrs. People have a misconception about heartworms. My vet told me that the adults don't produce more! For instance, I always thought that when a dog got heartworms, they would multiply & develope into more. My vet said that they have to go through the mosquito, & be transfered from one to another to go through the cycle. If you had 2 dogs tied side by side, & dog 1. had heartworms and a mosquito bit that dog & transmitted micro. to dog 2. then however many micro were transfered through that bite is how many adult worms they would end up with! If then, dog 2 gets bit by a mosquito & that mosquito in turn bites dog 1 again dog 1 can get more micro from dog 2 who originally contracted them from dog 1 in the first place. So infact they can continue to get more by passing micro back & forth via the incubator,( mosquitos) biting each one of them & then biting the other, thus tranfering more micro each time. I hope this made sense!

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The older female I gave it to laid in her box and threw up blood and had blood in her stool. She didn't eat or get out of her box for two days. Then she only ate a little and still had blood in her stool for several more days. So if it only kills the young stuff what did I kill because it about killed her?

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I USE THE IVOMEC SHEEP ORAL DRENCH,IT IS .08% COMPARED TO 1% INJECTABLE,MADE FOR ORAL USE,GIVE AT A RATE 3CC TO 26 LBS. BODY WAITE,I USE TO USE INJECTABLE BUT THIS SEEMS TO WORK MUCH BETTER AND IS EASY TO GIVE WITH A SMALL DRENCH GUN.

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Ive heard if it has heartworm already you could kill them by giving this,its probally a good idea to get dog checked first since this is only a preventive and not a heartworm treatment.

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is this the right one it does say for dogs

Ivomec 1% Cattle and Swine Wormer, (Inj) 50 ml
Cattle and swine wormer (Ivermectin). For the treatment and control of gastrointestinal roundworms, (e.g. large roundworm, red stomach worm, nodular worm, threadworm) lungworms, lice and mange mites.

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I would say it was something unrelated to Ivo. It is not a treatment because it does not kill adult worms! I found out the hard way back in the 80's. I was giving my old dog Ivo. & I put enough in the seringe for all the dogs! Well' you know the story! He jerked, I squeezed, & he got a cc&1/2. I got panicky & called the vet. ( by the way) this is the same vet that tryed to later get me banned from buying it!! Anyway, I run him in & he tells me he doesn't know if he can save him! He says he put him on constant IV's & won't let me see him, says he doesn't want to excite him. I heard him barking in the back room & he says he probably heard my voice & I need to leave for his saftey! 3 days & over $700.00 later he said it was a miracle but he saved him. I thank him & hailed him a miracle worker to only find out from my current vet that I just got had!! So I've had my learning process. Live & learn!

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I have heard of this preventative before but is it safe to use on breeding females and pregnant females or should you switch over to some other preventative before breeding and during nursing?

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Below is a portion of an interview I did last year on this very subject of Ivermec. You'll notice that the Vet doesn't come out and reccomend its use , but doesn't outright condem it either. He does acknowledge it's use for decades....

Interview date 07-27-2010

Mark::: Can you tell us your professional background , credentials or job association in the field of animal health ?

DR. Roth:::: Ira G. Roth,DVM Director, Community Practice Clinic, College of Veterinary Medicine, University of Georgia

Mark::::. Another common question from readers is about using Ivomec as a heartworm preventative. Many people are duplicating the dosage of the brand name ™Heartguard'' by using the 1% injectable solution for cattle and swine. The most common dosage given by readers is 1/10 CC for every 10 lbs of body weight , given orally to dogs once per month.. The reason given for using the cattle Ivomec is simply cost and economics. Most owners have several large hounds and cost is a factor. Readers know that Ivomec should never be given to any Collie breeds because of a gene in Collies that can be lethal to Ivomec. Readers also know that any dog should be tested negative for Heartworms BEFORE any treatment is given…My question to you is , is this a SAFE and EFFECTIVE way to treat a hound for heartworm preventative ?


DR. Roth::::: Though the dose of IVOMEC that you describe has been used anecdotally for decades, we cannot recommend the extra-label use of the product as you describe. The limitations that you describe regarding Collie type dogs/and other white footed breeds is well documented and should NEVER be used in these breeds. I will mention that the dose of ivermectin in our common heartworm preventatives (ie Heartgard, Iverheart) is a fraction of the dose that you outline in your use of Ivomec.
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Maybe some of you will find this usefull information from a professional....and by the way , I use 1/10 cc per 10lbs (usually 1/2 cc total per month) myself on hounds orally and have for a long time...Mark...

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Dog Heartworm
Dog heartworm can be a life-threatening disease for canines. The disease is caused by the roundworm Dirofilaria immitis. Dogs and sometimes other animals such as cats, foxes and raccoons are infected with the worm through the bite of a mosquito carrying the larvae of the worm. While cats are susceptible to the disease they do not appear to be good hosts. As a result cat infections are rare. Dirofilaria immitis is found throughout much of the United States including Massachusetts. Many common mosquito species in Massachusetts can become infected with the worm.

Dirofilaria immitis is dependent on both the canine and the mosquito to fulfill its lifecycle. In an infected dog the adult worms are 9-16 inches in length and live in the dog's heart and lungs. The young worms called microfilaria circulate in the blood stream of the dog. These worms must infect a mosquito in order to complete their lifecycle. Mosquitoes become infected when they blood feed on the sick dog. Once inside the mosquito the microfilaria leave the gut of the mosquito and live in the body of the insect, where they develop for 2-3 weeks. After transforming twice in one mosquito the third stage infective larvae move to the mosquito's mouthparts, where they will be able to infect an animal. When the mosquito blood feeds, the infective larvae are deposited on the surface of the skin. The larvae enter the skin through the wound caused by the mosquito bite. The worms burrow into the skin where they remain for 3-4 months. If the worms have infected an unsuitable host such as a human the worms usually die at this point. If the infective larvae are in a suitable host they will eventually enter the blood stream and locate the heart of the animal. Once they are in the heart they will reach the adult stage after about 5 months. In all the lifecycle of Dirofilaria immitis takes about 9 months to complete.

Dog heartworm
Dog Heartworm Life Cycle




While dog to dog transmission is not possible, the presence of an infected dog or other animal in the neighborhood can serve as a reservoir for the disease. The outbreak is caused when mosquitoes ingest microfilaria and in turn infect other animals.

Symptoms are not usually apparent until the adult worms have damaged the heart and other organs as a result of reduced blood flow. Some of the symptoms include, weight loss, shortness of breath, weakness, chronic cough, chronic heart failure and death. Because symptoms take so long to appear it is important to get your pet tested regularly for dog heartworm. Dog heartworm can be detected through a blood test that looks for the microfilaria circulating in the blood. It can also be detected through an X-ray.

The cure of dog heartworm can be an expensive and sometimes risky. The veterinarian must administer toxic chemicals to kill the worms over a period of time. If all the worms were killed at once the worms would move into the lungs and asphyxiate the dog. Surgery is sometimes possible as well.

The best way to deal with dog heartworm is to prevent the dog from becoming infected. There are several pills that can be given on a monthly or daily basis. The chemical in the pill kills any infective stage larvae circulating in the dogs' blood, thus preventing an infection. Since infected canines can have a reaction to the medication, the dog should be tested for dog heartworm before administering any of these pills. A veterinarian should conduct the tests.

Please remember that prevention of dog heartworm is part of being a responsible dog owner.

Links to more information:

American Heartworm Society

American Veterinary Medical Association

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can i give this to my pregnate female

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heart guard is fraction of the dose that you outline in your use of Ivomec....

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Thats bull, I did the math and its the same.

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My vet said .3cc/20lb. that's .9cc/60lbdog. She also also said it's a wide range of dose that will controll the heartworm filaria and not hurt the dog even if you forget a month or two. Must be.

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