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rance,
GOP in the Obama cabinet include, Sec. of Defense Gates, Sec. of Transportation LaHood, 14 yrs. GOP congressman from peoria, il. know him, most likely National Security and Vet. Affairs are that, a centerist cabinet, is lacking southerners though.... this is a group that will not be just the yes man, thank you mam, ok mam type that has come to be the model in d.c., more diverse in thought-makeup...

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try looking in webster for word meanings, several is more than one.... mentioned 4... look at your 1st grade math book, 1,2,3,4.... a plus that he is appointing moderates that will look at the issues from both sides and not stiffled by group think that is rife in most institutional settings, look up group think too-lo.... like said, time will tell, also if someone disagrees with you that does not make one a liberal-maybe just more open minded... personally am-have been a registered republican for many yrs., but am independent as a voter, a libertarian on constitutional issues, but a populist on areas of social need, like said now is time to come together to move nation-world forward, not be entrenched in ideaology at the expense of pragmatism and positive outcomes...

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try looking in webster for word meanings, several is more than one.... mentioned 4... look at your 1st grade math book, 1,2,3,4.... a plus that he is appointing moderates that will look at the issues from both sides and not stiffled by group think that is rife in most institutional settings, look up group think too-lo.... like said, time will tell, also if someone disagrees with you that does not make one a liberal-maybe just more open minded... personally am-have been a registered republican for many yrs., but am independent as a voter, a libertarian on constitutional issues, but a populist on areas of social need, like said now is time to come together to move nation-world forward, not be entrenched in ideaology at the expense of pragmatism and positive outcomes...

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don't teach children.... mentioned all 4, Nat. security advisor, veterans affairs, transportation, defense, 1,2,3,4, again a moderate cabinet not driven by idealogy-partisanship.... several is indicative of more than one, not seven.... not going to result to negatives, name calling, always respect the thoughts-ideas of others, even if not in agreement with them... bottom line is Obama is going to be the president, like it or not, have always supported whoever holds the office, but may disagree with policies, important in a free society that the elctorate holds those elected accountable, cornerstone of freedom, a responsibility as well as a right...

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you are referncing positions and calling those folks republicans and you dotn even know their names. again laughable that you just throw info out there wihtout even knowing what you are throwing. gates is very dispustable as calling him a republican appointee. shineski-which is the appointee to the vet affairs is a career military man not a politician-so how is he a republican, same witj basically with james jones.

how it all plays out is anyones guess, but the claim that there are several(4) republicans in obamas cabinet is not debatable and is a flat out lie.

you can also look at these picks as status qou, really no reformers that obama promised.

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give it up brother, quit being a hater, sure that I know the names or can look them up, my pt. is-has been that this cabinet is moderate and not partisan idealogues, you have validated that very thing with your comments sir, no matter what it seems like you are going to try to find something to pick apart and rally against, being a sore loser will not get you or anyone one else anywhere, if you look for negatives that is all that you will find, try coming out of the dark and into the light... again, time will tell, performance-not ideology will be the judge, much more concerned about outcomes than political philosophy-partisan affiliation, proof in the pudding, not the name on the box it comes in...

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Folks, Read the posts made by Nelson and Smokey carefully., These are the type of people our founding fathers warned us about. These are the mindsets that will allow our freedoms to be removed one by one and overtake a country without a shot ever being fired.

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Folks, Read the posts made by Nelson and Smokey carefully., These are the type of people our founding fathers warned us about. These are the mindsets that will allow our freedoms to be removed one by one and overtake a country without a shot ever being fired.

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OOOOOOOOYYEEEEEAAAA, Macho Man Randy Savage. I think of that dude every time I see a post from Jim Hill.

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give it up brother, quit being a hater, sure that I know the names or can look them up, my pt. is-has been that this cabinet is moderate and not partisan idealogues, you have validated that very thing with your comments sir, no matter what it seems like you are going to try to find something to pick apart and rally against, being a sore loser will not get you or anyone one else anywhere, if you look for negatives that is all that you will find, try coming out of the dark and into the light... again, time will tell, performance-not ideology will be the judge, much more concerned about outcomes than political philosophy-partisan affiliation, proof in the pudding, not the name on the box it comes in...

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give up brother, you have done kicked the dead horse, it's long dead.... makes no difference if the cabinet wears boxer, jockeys, or none at all, party affiliation-not the issue, performance is, don't care what party etc..., just what might happen, find something else to pick, maybe your nose-lo... look at what is inside the box, not the box itself... again-hope-pray for the best for all, we all move upward-onward and not be divided by labels etc... wish you the very best as well as everyone else...

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believe that two are sure republicans and two as you have identified are military and not political, but may lean toward gop... again not a big issue as to what color the uniform is, but how well can play the game... hopefully the best people to do the job and not based upon poltical affiliation as the selection criteria....

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Obama = CROOK="Chicago thug" political machine

Anyone notice how all these crooks are ties together??

Obama,Rezko, Blago-,Ayers, etc, etc, etc.

And yet,somehow, Obama claims to be as pure as the wind driven snow.


SURE.


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lol, you use 2 completely different posts to answer a simple yes or no question, and still never did. i think you would do well illinios politics.

never trust a man who wont give you a straight answer.

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the nature of politics is to never be pinned down, speak in glittering generalties and not locked definitives, all for everyone... same everywhere-all parties, not just illinois...
told you what believe to be what you asked, two in gop fold, two lean that way, can't tell more than I know sir, again key is what they may do, performance and not how they may be dressed or if mounted on an ass or an elephant, but that move in the right direction to lead regardless of political affiliation, needs of nation must trump partisanship....

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the nature of politics is to never be pinned down, speak in glittering generalties and not locked definitives, all for everyone... same everywhere-all parties, not just illinois...
told you what believe to be what you asked, two in gop fold, two lean that way, can't tell more than I know sir, again key is what they may do, performance and not how they may be dressed or if mounted on an ass or an elephant, but that move in the right direction to lead regardless of political affiliation, needs of nation must trump partisanship....

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so what, sorry if my understanding of party affiliation does not agree with yours, if you want want me to be incorrect by your definition- so be it... best I can do is two gop, believe that gates is in that camp with lahood, and two that lean toward the gop, as you have indicated... will stand corrected under your criteria of party affiliation-membership... again, not sure what difference the labels make, more interested in the soup than the can it comes in.... will be wrong if that is what you want to hear when applying your strict definitions that may differ from mine considering party-affiliation...

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blago for vice pres!


rrs would vote for that ticket. LOL

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have yet to vote for blago, by the way voted for keyes when he ran against obama for the senate... looks like blago in it until the end regardless of what happens to the state, hope he gets the cell next to ryan, course that is if he is proven guilty in a court, could be impeached and than tried in criminal court, don't see how he can skate on this, but in illinois strange things happen in the world of politics...

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you stated something on here that was completely false and you got called out on it. gates could be seen as a republican, depends on how you view it. but the other two, give me a break, and to make the claim there are several republicans in obamas cabinet is completely false. if that was the case there would be numerous articles referencing it. can you please provide one credible link that stats the cabinet has several or more than 2 republicans in it?

and my definition aside, just what defiention period does shineski and james fall as a republican under?

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don't make such a big deal out of nothing.... believe that gates is a a gop guy as is lahood and that the two miltary men lean that way, if you want me be to be wrong will be that to make you feel better and a winner if you like... do not know if any have an elephant tattoed on their buttocks, you are making something out of nothing... my contention is simply that the Obama cabinet is moderate, not doctrinaire or hard core partisan... not sure how republican or non the 4 gentleman mentioned are in their core values, but do believe they tend more toward the gop than demo... again, my contention is more about moderation than affiliation, if I did not state correctly, respond correctly, etc. apologize for the error, if my intent did not agree with my words....

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Rrs, I think the point he's making is you were never one to let the truth get in the way of your agenda. Me, I would never say that, I'm much too polite. Smokey, you ready to give up your little 2 auto? Quite capable of 60 rounds a minute. Think before you speak.

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truth often in the eye of the beholder.... bottom line is never intended to state a non-truth, only that we are missing the more important issue and getting hung up on what is much less important... by the way, because you or I do not accept something does not make it untrue or you or I that either.... don't really have an agenda, if did it would not be based upon untruths, that is the truth...

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Why rrs? You're trying to reason with these mccain/palin supporters. Good luck!

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being from southern il none of this comes as a surprise to me. how the state votes and thinks is always controlled by the chicago machine which is as corrupt as gov't gets. the thoughts of rural so. il. never get told or shown on the nationlay level. in fact there is a lot of talk down here about wishing we could split the state into North IL and South IL. I for one am at the top of the listof people wishing that could happen. then and only then could we in the southern part of the state truly be represented

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Michelle Obama Is The “Specifically Named Individual” On Page 64 of The Affidavit Submitted by FBI


http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/20...-fbi/#more-8116

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