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I think it depends on how much you've actually hunted them. They can't learn anything sitting on the end of a chain or in the dog pen.
If they have been messed with/hunted like they should be I expect most of mine to be running and treeing with the older dogs and to have split treed a few times with a coon sitting over them.
Do they all do this? NO.. If you do YOUR PART the majority of them should be running and treeing some by 9 months old.
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shoot, ive even had bootix that ran and treed at 9 months old.
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quote:Originally posted by MikeO shoot, ive even had bootix that ran and treed at 9 months old.
Lets not get toooooooooooooooooo carried away...
ROFL ROFL ROFL
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quote:Originally posted by MikeO shoot, ive even had bootix that ran and treed at 9 months old.
i have, i even got witnesses lol lol! i know i shoulda took pics nobody's gonna believe that. lmao
i had a 9 month old bootick run a deer 4 or 5 miles one night!
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I HAVE A FEMALE PUP THAT JUST TURN 7 MONTHS OUT OUT OF OL CHUBBY. SHE SPLIT TREE TREED THE FIRST NIGHT IN THE WOODS AND NEVER SEEN A COON BEFORE IN HER LIFE!!! BUT I LIKE A DOG THAT STARTS AT AROUND YEAR OLD FOR ME . IT SEEMS LIKE THEY MAKE BETTER HOUNDS THEN THE ONES THAT START EARLY. BUT I WILL OWN EATHER ONE. IT SEEM LIKE TO ME TODAY WE EXPECT TO MUCH OUT OF ARE PUPS. I CAN REMEBER BACK 30 YEARS AGO WHEN A HOUND WOULDNT START INTILL ABOUT 2 YEARS OLD.
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i think it depends on if there kenneled or running loose...if they are running loose where they are exposed to coon, i would expect them to be running and treeing some...kenneled pups seem to be 6mo. behind on training compared to pups that are free to run...
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I'm helping my brother start his black n tan gyp right now shes 6 months old. after just a few times in the woods shes starting to show interest. he seemed a little discouraged after seeing what my 6 month old walker pup was doing already but i just told him I've had my pup in the woods 3 months already that makes a difference. plus early starter doesn't necessarily mean their gonna make a coondog.
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quote:Originally posted by smokey7 I "expect" mine to be treeing some coons by then. He better be.
smokey7, if you've got 9 mo. old pups going a mile and a half, over mountians, by itself, to tree one of the few coon that you have, put me down on the list for your next litter!
when i rase a pup if it will not hunt and run and tree its owen coon befor 9 months it get a 22 to maney good ones to wast your time on a bad one.i let my run loose to start them and it makes them train easer if they are going to make it
by 9mths he should be real ugly calico ear,crooked tail
blue eyes and only then will i start him. kill season i expect
him to be a natural meat head and get 30 coons out to him.
they should serve as feeders for all the possums i am fixing
to knock out to him.
quote:Originally posted by President when i rase a pup if it will not hunt and run and tree its owen coon befor 9 months it get a 22 to maney good ones to wast your time on a bad one.i let my run loose to start them and it makes them train easer if they are going to make it
PEOPLE DONT NEED TO SELL YOU A PUP. EVER PUP ISNT THE SAME. YOU DONT EVEN GIVE THE PUPS ACHANCE FEEDING A 22 BULLET AT THAT AGE. WHAT DID YOU DO THE PUPS BACK IN THE 70 THAT DIDNT START TILL THEY WERE 2 YEARS OLD?
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I agree Jay if you shoot a dog at 9 months old you have no business with any. You would need a whole lot of confidence in your bloodline if your gonna kill em at 9 months old. I also bet he aint spending much on them pups.
quote:Originally posted by Keith Hodge I agree Jay if you shoot a dog at 9 months old you have no business with any. You would need a whole lot of confidence in your bloodline if your gonna kill em at 9 months old. I also bet he aint spending much on them pups.
KEITH YOU PROBLEY ARE RIGHT ABOUT THE MONEY PART. BUT THIS IS WHY THEIR IS ALOT A PUPS THAT DONT MAKE IT PEOPLE LIKE THIS. THEN THEY WANT TO BAD MOUTH THE STUD DOG!!!
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Wow if theres that many 9mo old dogs running and treeing alone. Why is thier so many dogs for sale at 1 yr and older saying lightly started or started. lol. And treeing with older dogs. lol
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It's no small wonder that PETA hates us!
According to them all hunters are just vicious butchers who torture and kill the cute little cuddly coons...
Now we have our own blabbing that they kill dogs at 9 mos old if they're NOT killing and torturing those poor coon!
Maybe the answer to the pup over-population isn't putting a bullet in the head of every pup that doesn't hunt at 9 mos...
Maybe the answer is in reasonable breeding of desirable dogs and then owners who have the sense enough to let a pup be a pup before training. Not in owners who buy a young dog, keep it a few weeks and then move on to the next one because in those whole 3 wks of "training" they didn't perform! URGH!
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After reading some of these posts I dont know what to think. I have a pup just turned 11months old today that has been treeing his own coon since six months old. I kept track how many coon he treed me since he turned 10months old, 17 all by his self. He started that way and I hunt that way about 95% of the time. I only hunt him 3 nights a week 3, 4 drops a night. I thought I realy had somethin but now I dont know what to expect out of him. First pup I ever started.
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My number one passion in this sport is startin pup's & since I'm kinda gimped up I've thought of starting a puppy kindergarten/day care gig for the public. I have several generation's of reference's!
Well I will just go ahead and state that if you live in thin coon and hunt in thin coon you can count on waiting past 9 months old. If a dog is running loose I can see maybe but, in a kennel no way, not here. Ive seen some fine dogs not even do it on their own till 16 months old. By 9 months old I expect mine to know his name, come when called, load, lead and show interest in coon..one night a dog might not hunt a bit and the next time you take him he might take right off there is not a magic age for this and if there is then its definately not 9 months old. In my opinion the hardest learning curve you face with a pup is knowing why you take it out and turn it loose 3-4 nights a week. Once it knows why its gravy. Here sometimes a dog has to go 1/2 a mile just to find a coon or even further..you cant expect that out of a 9 month old alone...some are just naturals...but overall expectations shouldnt be much out of a 9 month old.
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